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* Ye Olde 2013 Mock Draft Thread!! *

ESPN/Scouts Inc have Chance Warmack as their #2 overall prospect. They have my guy, Alec Ogletree at #20 overall so that's nice.
 
Thanks mate, its good to see you again. It really did take me a while to get back into draft mode, but a few days away from the start of the college season and I am excited now. I can't wait to see what this board can come up with over the next few months because we have a lot of creative people that know a lot about football. I look forward to seeing what you have in store for us this year because its always a lot of fun and a great learning experience reading your work.

Cheers buddy

Thank you, Brother Wilfork!!

I, too, have taken a while to get rolling: Last year's WorkLoad was a BLAST, but was also the equivalent of Larry Johnson 416 Carry season ~ from which he never recovered!!

The combination of that and the fact that we've had ~ this is no joke ~ 71 consecutive hot days without a single day off...has kept my creative energy at a trickle: my brain absolutely requires authentic cool air ~ not AC, though I thank the Gods for it!! ~ to generate creative energy, and that has been at a minimum!!
 
Time for a another run at a mock now that the first 53 man roster and practice squad are out, and some of the strengths/weakness of the team are more evident. I'm assuming Tyrann Mathieu doesn't come out in 2013, and right now I'm happy waiting and seeing how Tavon Wilson and Jake Ebner develop at safety, so DB is not a focus of this mock. Neither is RB, as I want to see how the young kids do this year, and Jeff Demps is in the wings for 2013. As always, this is just throwing darts and kicking the tires on prospects of interest, and I'm assuming that the Pats pick at 32 in each round. I've also incorporated some prospects of interested from other folks' mocks.

*** Trade: The Pats trade #32 for a 2013 mid-2nd round and 3rd round picks. Brother Manx has suggested that guys like Dion Jordan and Jesse Williams aren't clear 1st round picks right now. That could change, but for now I agree. I still love their upside and versatility, so I could see BB trading back from 32. Unless someone is willing to offer a 2014 1st the way New Orleans did with the #28 pick in 2011, a 2nd and 3rd would seem reasonable.

2a. Dion Jordan, DE/LB/"DB", Oregon. 6'6" 245#.



Hybrid Beast!
The "Preying Mantis" is a rare animal, a 6'6" guy with great explosion and quickness off the edge who is unreal in space. He came to Oregon as a WR, converted to TE, and then to DE. He is so agile in space that the Ducks sometimes use him to play press CB and to cover slot receivers. He spends most of his time playing out of a 2 point stance, even when he is on the line. Jordan is not stout enough to be a full time edge setter, but he has good core strength for his size. The Pats could move him around, including playing DB in "big nickel" packages. With his length, speed and agility, Jordan could be a unique weapon in a defense which already has playmakers like Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower.

2b. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama. 6'4" 330#.



Beast!
Star Lotulelei and Johnathan Hankins will likely be out of reach in 2013, but there is still plenty of depth and talent at the DT position. Williams could be a steal, and may have as much upside as either of those guys. An Australian transplant and JUCO transfer by way of Arizona, Wiliams played 3-4 DE for the Tide in 2011 but is taking over at NT for Josh Chapman in 2012. A former rugby player, Williams has tremendous strength and terrific movement skills for his size. He is a weight room fanatic with incredible core strength, who recently benched 600 lbs (Dontari Poe, who led the 2012 Combine at the bench press, had a best of 500 lbs. at Memphis), and very little body fat. Best quote: "I stopped looking for the monster under the bed when I realized the monster was me." Williams has enough agility and athleticism to play outside in the 3-4 and probably play 4-3 LDE as well, and enough strength and size to play 3-4 NT, 4-3 NT and 4-3 DT. Getting Williams might require a trade up in the 2nd round.

3a. Mark Jackson, OT/OG, Glenville St. 6'5" 328#.



Sleeper!
Rated the #7 center in the country by Rivals coming out of high school and signed by Illinois, Jackson subsequently transferred to a small school and has been flying under the rader. A big kid with excellent footwork for his size, Jackson has positional versatility at tackle, guard and center. He's still a bit under the rader, but with a strong season he'll probably be a top 100 pick, and could even sneak into the 2nd round. I could see him becoming a Brian Waters kind of player at guard, with potential at RT as well. He could even be moved back to center. Tennessee OL Dallas Thomas could be an option here as well, if he lasts that long. I'd be happy with either.

I'm assuming that Brian Waters is gone after 2013 (at the latest). Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly are on the wrong side of 30. Ryan Wendell has made strides this preseason and Donald Thomas and Nick McDonald are works in progress. Marcus Cannon could move to the interior OL. But there is still room for at least one quality interior OL prospect, hopefully with the footwork to succeed Logan Mankins down the road. Mark Jackson and Marcus Cannon would give the Pats a huge combination of bookend guards for the future to pair with massive tackles Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer.

3b. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina. 6'7" 310#.



Sleeper!
A Brother Manx find, Hurst is a big man with a lot of athleticism and good footwork. Sebastian Vollmer is in a contract year and his back issues are enough of a concern to keep the team from aggressively pursuing an extension at this time. Marcus Cannon is still a major question at RT. Hurst would make a nice swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer, allowing Marcus Cannon to be moved to RG as Brian Waters presumably will be gone after 2013 (assuming he comes back this year), and a nice insurance policy in case Vollmer moves on after this year. Hurst has enough power to play RT and enough footwork and agility to play LT.

4. David Bass, DE, Missouri Western St.. 6'5" 280#.



Super Sleeper!
Mackenzie Pantoja has recently profiled Bass, who has an intriguing combination of size, length, long arms, verticity, instincts and processing speed. Pantoja writes: "I have never before scouted a player who is tremendous at so many different things needed to stop the pass" and "I’m not sure if I could design a player better suited to cover the NFL’s new breed of 'super tight ends' (Gronk, Graham, etc.)". A 280# LDE who can drop back into coverage from a 3-point stance and cover a TE or a slot WR in addition to rushing the passer, clogging the passing lanes and setting the edge would be a tremendous weapon - so much so that Bass got me to pass on Margus Hunt in the 1st round in favor of Dion Jordan. A DE group of Fanene/Bass/Bequette at LDE and Chandler Jones/Bequette/Cunningham at RDE would have terrific depth and versatility.

5. Brandon Moore, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper Beast!
Moore was recruited by Nick Saban to Alabama, and left the team for disciplinary reasons before transferring to Texas to be reunited with his old line coach. A huge kid with terrific athleticism, Moore has reportedly been dominant in Spring practices. With VInce Wilfork turning 32 in 2013 and Myron Pryor and Ron Brace UDFAs after this year a second interior lineman would be a nice addition. A front line of Wilfork, Williams, Love, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Forston and Moore would be a very strong group. I'm guessing that a deep DT class and his past disciplinary issues could push Moore down a bit. Other nice day 3 alternatives include Georgia Tech DT TJ Barnes and Tennessee-Martin DT Montori Hughes.

7. Luke Marquardt, OT, Asuza Pacific. 6'8"+ 320#.



Super Sleeper!
Marquardt is an enormous prospect with a basketball background and terrific size and athleticism from a small school, much like Jared Veldheer in 2010. Plus he's coached by HOF OT Jackie Slater, so he should get a good grounding in the fundamentals. BB has a nice relationship with Slater, one of the reasons he took Matt Slater in 2008. Marquardt would make a terrific developmental OT. A squad of Solder, Vollmer, Hurst and Marquardt would be a nice tackle group.

I'd like to figure out how to pick up a day 2-3 WR or maybe a TE. Michael Williams and Levine Toilolo still intrigue me, and possibly Joseph Fauria. But that's for another day.
 
Brother Mayo

An excellent mock which would make me very happy. I know you see this as a trenches draft but I personally would like to see at least one skill player drafted - secondary or WR. I also suspect, as much as I like him, that Dion Jordan wouldn't be a first Patriot pick because of the reason you outlined, namely that he's not strong enough. I think BB will want the first pick to be an every down capable player and I'm not sure Jordan is. Those of course are just my meager opinions and not intended to denigrate what is an excellent mock and one that would make me happy.

One thought - watching the 'Bama game last night, what about Quinton Dial as one of the 3-4 type guys you've got? At 6'5, 304 lbs and with that Saban coached pedigree, he looks to be ideal as a late round Pats flyer.

And many thanks for the credits.
 
Time for a another run at a mock now that the first 53 man roster and practice squad are out, and some of the strengths/weakness of the team are more evident. I'm assuming Tyrann Mathieu doesn't come out in 2013, and right now I'm happy waiting and seeing how Tavon Wilson and Jake Ebner develop at safety, so DB is not a focus of this mock. Neither is RB, as I want to see how the young kids do this year, and Jeff Demps is in the wings for 2013. As always, this is just throwing darts and kicking the tires on prospects of interest, and I'm assuming that the Pats pick at 32 in each round. I've also incorporated some prospects of interested from other folks' mocks.

*** Trade: The Pats trade #32 for a 2013 mid-2nd round and 3rd round picks. Brother Manx has suggested that guys like Dion Jordan and Jesse Williams aren't clear 1st round picks right now. That could change, but for now I agree. I still love their upside and versatility, so I could see BB trading back from 32. Unless someone is willing to offer a 2014 1st the way New Orleans did with the #28 pick in 2011, a 2nd and 3rd would seem reasonable.

2a. Dion Jordan, DE/LB/"DB", Oregon. 6'6" 245#.



Hybrid Beast!
The "Preying Mantis" is a rare animal, a 6'6" guy with great explosion and quickness off the edge who is unreal in space. He came to Oregon as a WR, converted to TE, and then to DE. He is so agile in space that the Ducks sometimes use him to play press CB and to cover slot receivers. He spends most of his time playing out of a 2 point stance, even when he is on the line. Jordan is not stout enough to be a full time edge setter, but he has good core strength for his size. The Pats could move him around, including playing DB in "big nickel" packages. With his length, speed and agility, Jordan could be a unique weapon in a defense which already has playmakers like Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower.

2b. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama. 6'4" 330#.



Beast!
Star Lotulelei and Johnathan Hankins will likely be out of reach in 2013, but there is still plenty of depth and talent at the DT position. Williams could be a steal, and may have as much upside as either of those guys. An Australian transplant and JUCO transfer by way of Arizona, Wiliams played 3-4 DE for the Tide in 2011 but is taking over at NT for Josh Chapman in 2012. A former rugby player, Williams has tremendous strength and terrific movement skills for his size. He is a weight room fanatic with incredible core strength, who recently benched 600 lbs (Dontari Poe, who led the 2012 Combine at the bench press, had a best of 500 lbs. at Memphis), and very little body fat. Best quote: "I stopped looking for the monster under the bed when I realized the monster was me." Williams has enough agility and athleticism to play outside in the 3-4 and probably play 4-3 LDE as well, and enough strength and size to play 3-4 NT, 4-3 NT and 4-3 DT. Getting Williams might require a trade up in the 2nd round.

3a. Mark Jackson, OT/OG, Glenville St. 6'5" 328#.



Sleeper!
Rated the #7 center in the country by Rivals coming out of high school and signed by Illinois, Jackson subsequently transferred to a small school and has been flying under the rader. A big kid with excellent footwork for his size, Jackson has positional versatility at tackle, guard and center. He's still a bit under the rader, but with a strong season he'll probably be a top 100 pick, and could even sneak into the 2nd round. I could see him becoming a Brian Waters kind of player at guard, with potential at RT as well. He could even be moved back to center. Tennessee OL Dallas Thomas could be an option here as well, if he lasts that long. I'd be happy with either.

I'm assuming that Brian Waters is gone after 2013 (at the latest). Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly are on the wrong side of 30. Ryan Wendell has made strides this preseason and Donald Thomas and Nick McDonald are works in progress. Marcus Cannon could move to the interior OL. But there is still room for at least one quality interior OL prospect, hopefully with the footwork to succeed Logan Mankins down the road. Mark Jackson and Marcus Cannon would give the Pats a huge combination of bookend guards for the future to pair with massive tackles Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer.

3b. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina. 6'7" 310#.



Sleeper!
A Brother Manx find, Hurst is a big man with a lot of athleticism and good footwork. Sebastian Vollmer is in a contract year and his back issues are enough of a concern to keep the team from aggressively pursuing an extension at this time. Marcus Cannon is still a major question at RT. Hurst would make a nice swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer, allowing Marcus Cannon to be moved to RG as Brian Waters presumably will be gone after 2013 (assuming he comes back this year), and a nice insurance policy in case Vollmer moves on after this year. Hurst has enough power to play RT and enough footwork and agility to play LT.

4. David Bass, DE, Missouri Western St.. 6'5" 280#.



Super Sleeper!
Mackenzie Pantoja has recently profiled Bass, who has an intriguing combination of size, length, long arms, verticity, instincts and processing speed. Pantoja writes: "I have never before scouted a player who is tremendous at so many different things needed to stop the pass" and "I’m not sure if I could design a player better suited to cover the NFL’s new breed of 'super tight ends' (Gronk, Graham, etc.)". A 280# LDE who can drop back into coverage from a 3-point stance and cover a TE or a slot WR in addition to rushing the passer, clogging the passing lanes and setting the edge would be a tremendous weapon - so much so that Bass got me to pass on Margus Hunt in the 1st round in favor of Dion Jordan. A DE group of Fanene/Bass/Bequette at LDE and Chandler Jones/Bequette/Cunningham at RDE would have terrific depth and versatility.

5. Brandon Moore, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper Beast!
Moore was recruited by Nick Saban to Alabama, and left the team for disciplinary reasons before transferring to Texas to be reunited with his old line coach. A huge kid with terrific athleticism, Moore has reportedly been dominant in Spring practices. With VInce Wilfork turning 32 in 2013 and Myron Pryor and Ron Brace UDFAs after this year a second interior lineman would be a nice addition. A front line of Wilfork, Williams, Love, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Forston and Moore would be a very strong group. I'm guessing that a deep DT class and his past disciplinary issues could push Moore down a bit. Other nice day 3 alternatives include Georgia Tech DT TJ Barnes and Tennessee-Martin DT Montori Hughes.

7. Luke Marquardt, OT, Asuza Pacific. 6'8"+ 320#.



Super Sleeper!
Marquardt is an enormous prospect with a basketball background and terrific size and athleticism from a small school, much like Jared Veldheer in 2010. Plus he's coached by HOF OT Jackie Slater, so he should get a good grounding in the fundamentals. BB has a nice relationship with Slater, one of the reasons he took Matt Slater in 2008. Marquardt would make a terrific developmental OT. A squad of Solder, Vollmer, Hurst and Marquardt would be a nice tackle group.

I'd like to figure out how to pick up a day 2-3 WR or maybe a TE. Michael Williams and Levine Toilolo still intrigue me, and possibly Joseph Fauria. But that's for another day.

I love it...but I demand that Michael Williams rockin the Elvis this time next year.
 
I love it...but I demand that Michael Williams rockin the Elvis this time next year.

I'd be thrilled to find a way to add Michael Williams to the guys listed in my mock. I'll work on it.
 
Brother Mayo

An excellent mock which would make me very happy. I know you see this as a trenches draft but I personally would like to see at least one skill player drafted - secondary or WR. I also suspect, as much as I like him, that Dion Jordan wouldn't be a first Patriot pick because of the reason you outlined, namely that he's not strong enough. I think BB will want the first pick to be an every down capable player and I'm not sure Jordan is. Those of course are just my meager opinions and not intended to denigrate what is an excellent mock and one that would make me happy.

I'm sure a WR (or more TEs!) and/or DB will factor into the mix. For now, I want to see how those positions develop. Safety could be a non-issue or a major area depending on Chung's status and how Wilson and Ebner develop. CB will depend on whether McCourty recovers from his 2011 off-year, how Dowling and Dennard develop, and whether Arrington leaves after 2012. WR will depend on how Edelman does and whether he's retained past 2012, how Lloyd and Salads do in their first year in the system, and Wes Welker's status. It's not so much that I'm not interested in those positions, but I'm less willing to prioritize them right now, whereas I'm sure about adding youth and talent to the OL and DL.

As for Dion Jordan, it's early to see, but his skill set is unique enough that I think there could be appeal. Also, there's enough talent on DL that I could see a guy like Jordan being brought in as a role player and given some time to get stronger. Chandler Jones wasn't expected to be more than a sub-rusher going into training camp this year, and he seems to have exceeded expectations, as did Nate Solder a year ago. I think Jordan could be special.

One thought - watching the 'Bama game last night, what about Quinton Dial as one of the 3-4 type guys you've got? At 6'5, 304 lbs and with that Saban coached pedigree, he looks to be ideal as a late round Pats flyer.

And many thanks for the credits.

I think Dial is an interesting player. It will be interesting to see how Saban uses all of his linemen this year and how high Dial's draft stock is. I have no objection to him being on any day 3 list as things stand right now.

It's always good to get insights from others and not focus too much on individual prospects. There are a lot of interesting guys out there.
 
Geez Mayo. I don't mind a de, dt and a couple of ol in the first 3 rounds. But, I'd like to get a 4-3 OLB and a WR. Haven't been posting much. I'm just not into this college football season. I went to PSU and the Sandusky Scandal and subsequent sanctions have dimmed my interest in any college team other than hoping PSU can survive with BOB. Bama did look great last night. Their OL reminded me of one of those juiced-up Nebraska ones
 
The Alabama RT Fluker looked good but he might be a 2014 guy. I liked the DB Milliner a lot.
 
The Alabama RT Fluker looked good but he might be a 2014 guy. I liked the DB Milliner a lot.

I think Fluker toned up his body quite a bit from last year. He was very pudgy looking in 2011. Looked more toned last night. He's better than James Carpenter and he was a 1st round pick. He's a 4th year junior and would leave if grade is high enough.
 
Time for a another run at a mock now that the first 53 man roster and practice squad are out, and some of the strengths/weakness of the team are more evident. I'm assuming Tyrann Mathieu doesn't come out in 2013, and right now I'm happy waiting and seeing how Tavon Wilson and Jake Ebner develop at safety, so DB is not a focus of this mock. Neither is RB, as I want to see how the young kids do this year, and Jeff Demps is in the wings for 2013. As always, this is just throwing darts and kicking the tires on prospects of interest, and I'm assuming that the Pats pick at 32 in each round. I've also incorporated some prospects of interested from other folks' mocks.

*** Trade: The Pats trade #32 for a 2013 mid-2nd round and 3rd round picks. Brother Manx has suggested that guys like Dion Jordan and Jesse Williams aren't clear 1st round picks right now. That could change, but for now I agree. I still love their upside and versatility, so I could see BB trading back from 32. Unless someone is willing to offer a 2014 1st the way New Orleans did with the #28 pick in 2011, a 2nd and 3rd would seem reasonable.

2a. Dion Jordan, DE/LB/"DB", Oregon. 6'6" 245#.



Hybrid Beast!
The "Preying Mantis" is a rare animal, a 6'6" guy with great explosion and quickness off the edge who is unreal in space. He came to Oregon as a WR, converted to TE, and then to DE. He is so agile in space that the Ducks sometimes use him to play press CB and to cover slot receivers. He spends most of his time playing out of a 2 point stance, even when he is on the line. Jordan is not stout enough to be a full time edge setter, but he has good core strength for his size. The Pats could move him around, including playing DB in "big nickel" packages. With his length, speed and agility, Jordan could be a unique weapon in a defense which already has playmakers like Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower.

2b. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama. 6'4" 330#.



Beast!
Star Lotulelei and Johnathan Hankins will likely be out of reach in 2013, but there is still plenty of depth and talent at the DT position. Williams could be a steal, and may have as much upside as either of those guys. An Australian transplant and JUCO transfer by way of Arizona, Wiliams played 3-4 DE for the Tide in 2011 but is taking over at NT for Josh Chapman in 2012. A former rugby player, Williams has tremendous strength and terrific movement skills for his size. He is a weight room fanatic with incredible core strength, who recently benched 600 lbs (Dontari Poe, who led the 2012 Combine at the bench press, had a best of 500 lbs. at Memphis), and very little body fat. Best quote: "I stopped looking for the monster under the bed when I realized the monster was me." Williams has enough agility and athleticism to play outside in the 3-4 and probably play 4-3 LDE as well, and enough strength and size to play 3-4 NT, 4-3 NT and 4-3 DT. Getting Williams might require a trade up in the 2nd round.

3a. Mark Jackson, OT/OG, Glenville St. 6'5" 328#.



Sleeper!
Rated the #7 center in the country by Rivals coming out of high school and signed by Illinois, Jackson subsequently transferred to a small school and has been flying under the rader. A big kid with excellent footwork for his size, Jackson has positional versatility at tackle, guard and center. He's still a bit under the rader, but with a strong season he'll probably be a top 100 pick, and could even sneak into the 2nd round. I could see him becoming a Brian Waters kind of player at guard, with potential at RT as well. He could even be moved back to center. Tennessee OL Dallas Thomas could be an option here as well, if he lasts that long. I'd be happy with either.

I'm assuming that Brian Waters is gone after 2013 (at the latest). Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly are on the wrong side of 30. Ryan Wendell has made strides this preseason and Donald Thomas and Nick McDonald are works in progress. Marcus Cannon could move to the interior OL. But there is still room for at least one quality interior OL prospect, hopefully with the footwork to succeed Logan Mankins down the road. Mark Jackson and Marcus Cannon would give the Pats a huge combination of bookend guards for the future to pair with massive tackles Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer.

3b. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina. 6'7" 310#.



Sleeper!
A Brother Manx find, Hurst is a big man with a lot of athleticism and good footwork. Sebastian Vollmer is in a contract year and his back issues are enough of a concern to keep the team from aggressively pursuing an extension at this time. Marcus Cannon is still a major question at RT. Hurst would make a nice swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer, allowing Marcus Cannon to be moved to RG as Brian Waters presumably will be gone after 2013 (assuming he comes back this year), and a nice insurance policy in case Vollmer moves on after this year. Hurst has enough power to play RT and enough footwork and agility to play LT.

4. David Bass, DE, Missouri Western St.. 6'5" 280#.



Super Sleeper!
Mackenzie Pantoja has recently profiled Bass, who has an intriguing combination of size, length, long arms, verticity, instincts and processing speed. Pantoja writes: "I have never before scouted a player who is tremendous at so many different things needed to stop the pass" and "I’m not sure if I could design a player better suited to cover the NFL’s new breed of 'super tight ends' (Gronk, Graham, etc.)". A 280# LDE who can drop back into coverage from a 3-point stance and cover a TE or a slot WR in addition to rushing the passer, clogging the passing lanes and setting the edge would be a tremendous weapon - so much so that Bass got me to pass on Margus Hunt in the 1st round in favor of Dion Jordan. A DE group of Fanene/Bass/Bequette at LDE and Chandler Jones/Bequette/Cunningham at RDE would have terrific depth and versatility.

5. Brandon Moore, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper Beast!
Moore was recruited by Nick Saban to Alabama, and left the team for disciplinary reasons before transferring to Texas to be reunited with his old line coach. A huge kid with terrific athleticism, Moore has reportedly been dominant in Spring practices. With VInce Wilfork turning 32 in 2013 and Myron Pryor and Ron Brace UDFAs after this year a second interior lineman would be a nice addition. A front line of Wilfork, Williams, Love, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Forston and Moore would be a very strong group. I'm guessing that a deep DT class and his past disciplinary issues could push Moore down a bit. Other nice day 3 alternatives include Georgia Tech DT TJ Barnes and Tennessee-Martin DT Montori Hughes.

7. Luke Marquardt, OT, Asuza Pacific. 6'8"+ 320#.



Super Sleeper!
Marquardt is an enormous prospect with a basketball background and terrific size and athleticism from a small school, much like Jared Veldheer in 2010. Plus he's coached by HOF OT Jackie Slater, so he should get a good grounding in the fundamentals. BB has a nice relationship with Slater, one of the reasons he took Matt Slater in 2008. Marquardt would make a terrific developmental OT. A squad of Solder, Vollmer, Hurst and Marquardt would be a nice tackle group.

I'd like to figure out how to pick up a day 2-3 WR or maybe a TE. Michael Williams and Levine Toilolo still intrigue me, and possibly Joseph Fauria. But that's for another day.

Beautifull Work, Brother Mayo!! Well ahead'f the curve, and exquisitely presented!! :rocker:
 
Time for a another run at a mock now that the first 53 man roster and practice squad are out, and some of the strengths/weakness of the team are more evident. I'm assuming Tyrann Mathieu doesn't come out in 2013, and right now I'm happy waiting and seeing how Tavon Wilson and Jake Ebner develop at safety, so DB is not a focus of this mock. Neither is RB, as I want to see how the young kids do this year, and Jeff Demps is in the wings for 2013. As always, this is just throwing darts and kicking the tires on prospects of interest, and I'm assuming that the Pats pick at 32 in each round. I've also incorporated some prospects of interested from other folks' mocks.

*** Trade: The Pats trade #32 for a 2013 mid-2nd round and 3rd round picks. Brother Manx has suggested that guys like Dion Jordan and Jesse Williams aren't clear 1st round picks right now. That could change, but for now I agree. I still love their upside and versatility, so I could see BB trading back from 32. Unless someone is willing to offer a 2014 1st the way New Orleans did with the #28 pick in 2011, a 2nd and 3rd would seem reasonable.

2a. Dion Jordan, DE/LB/"DB", Oregon. 6'6" 245#.



Hybrid Beast!
The "Preying Mantis" is a rare animal, a 6'6" guy with great explosion and quickness off the edge who is unreal in space. He came to Oregon as a WR, converted to TE, and then to DE. He is so agile in space that the Ducks sometimes use him to play press CB and to cover slot receivers. He spends most of his time playing out of a 2 point stance, even when he is on the line. Jordan is not stout enough to be a full time edge setter, but he has good core strength for his size. The Pats could move him around, including playing DB in "big nickel" packages. With his length, speed and agility, Jordan could be a unique weapon in a defense which already has playmakers like Chandler Jones and Dont'a Hightower.

2b. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama. 6'4" 330#.



Beast!
Star Lotulelei and Johnathan Hankins will likely be out of reach in 2013, but there is still plenty of depth and talent at the DT position. Williams could be a steal, and may have as much upside as either of those guys. An Australian transplant and JUCO transfer by way of Arizona, Wiliams played 3-4 DE for the Tide in 2011 but is taking over at NT for Josh Chapman in 2012. A former rugby player, Williams has tremendous strength and terrific movement skills for his size. He is a weight room fanatic with incredible core strength, who recently benched 600 lbs (Dontari Poe, who led the 2012 Combine at the bench press, had a best of 500 lbs. at Memphis), and very little body fat. Best quote: "I stopped looking for the monster under the bed when I realized the monster was me." Williams has enough agility and athleticism to play outside in the 3-4 and probably play 4-3 LDE as well, and enough strength and size to play 3-4 NT, 4-3 NT and 4-3 DT. Getting Williams might require a trade up in the 2nd round.

3a. Mark Jackson, OT/OG, Glenville St. 6'5" 328#.



Sleeper!
Rated the #7 center in the country by Rivals coming out of high school and signed by Illinois, Jackson subsequently transferred to a small school and has been flying under the rader. A big kid with excellent footwork for his size, Jackson has positional versatility at tackle, guard and center. He's still a bit under the rader, but with a strong season he'll probably be a top 100 pick, and could even sneak into the 2nd round. I could see him becoming a Brian Waters kind of player at guard, with potential at RT as well. He could even be moved back to center. Tennessee OL Dallas Thomas could be an option here as well, if he lasts that long. I'd be happy with either.

I'm assuming that Brian Waters is gone after 2013 (at the latest). Logan Mankins and Dan Connolly are on the wrong side of 30. Ryan Wendell has made strides this preseason and Donald Thomas and Nick McDonald are works in progress. Marcus Cannon could move to the interior OL. But there is still room for at least one quality interior OL prospect, hopefully with the footwork to succeed Logan Mankins down the road. Mark Jackson and Marcus Cannon would give the Pats a huge combination of bookend guards for the future to pair with massive tackles Nate Solder and Sebastian Vollmer.

3b. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina. 6'7" 310#.



Sleeper!
A Brother Manx find, Hurst is a big man with a lot of athleticism and good footwork. Sebastian Vollmer is in a contract year and his back issues are enough of a concern to keep the team from aggressively pursuing an extension at this time. Marcus Cannon is still a major question at RT. Hurst would make a nice swing tackle behind Solder and Vollmer, allowing Marcus Cannon to be moved to RG as Brian Waters presumably will be gone after 2013 (assuming he comes back this year), and a nice insurance policy in case Vollmer moves on after this year. Hurst has enough power to play RT and enough footwork and agility to play LT.

4. David Bass, DE, Missouri Western St.. 6'5" 280#.



Super Sleeper!
Mackenzie Pantoja has recently profiled Bass, who has an intriguing combination of size, length, long arms, verticity, instincts and processing speed. Pantoja writes: "I have never before scouted a player who is tremendous at so many different things needed to stop the pass" and "I’m not sure if I could design a player better suited to cover the NFL’s new breed of 'super tight ends' (Gronk, Graham, etc.)". A 280# LDE who can drop back into coverage from a 3-point stance and cover a TE or a slot WR in addition to rushing the passer, clogging the passing lanes and setting the edge would be a tremendous weapon - so much so that Bass got me to pass on Margus Hunt in the 1st round in favor of Dion Jordan. A DE group of Fanene/Bass/Bequette at LDE and Chandler Jones/Bequette/Cunningham at RDE would have terrific depth and versatility.

5. Brandon Moore, DT, Texas. 6'5" 335#.



Super Sleeper Beast!
Moore was recruited by Nick Saban to Alabama, and left the team for disciplinary reasons before transferring to Texas to be reunited with his old line coach. A huge kid with terrific athleticism, Moore has reportedly been dominant in Spring practices. With VInce Wilfork turning 32 in 2013 and Myron Pryor and Ron Brace UDFAs after this year a second interior lineman would be a nice addition. A front line of Wilfork, Williams, Love, Brace, Deaderick, Pryor/Forston and Moore would be a very strong group. I'm guessing that a deep DT class and his past disciplinary issues could push Moore down a bit. Other nice day 3 alternatives include Georgia Tech DT TJ Barnes and Tennessee-Martin DT Montori Hughes.

7. Luke Marquardt, OT, Asuza Pacific. 6'8"+ 320#.



Super Sleeper!
Marquardt is an enormous prospect with a basketball background and terrific size and athleticism from a small school, much like Jared Veldheer in 2010. Plus he's coached by HOF OT Jackie Slater, so he should get a good grounding in the fundamentals. BB has a nice relationship with Slater, one of the reasons he took Matt Slater in 2008. Marquardt would make a terrific developmental OT. A squad of Solder, Vollmer, Hurst and Marquardt would be a nice tackle group.

I'd like to figure out how to pick up a day 2-3 WR or maybe a TE. Michael Williams and Levine Toilolo still intrigue me, and possibly Joseph Fauria. But that's for another day.

Mayo, I'm wondering how you'd potentially revise this based on the info gained from game 1.
 
Mayo, I'm wondering how you'd potentially revise this based on the info gained from game 1.

Sorry not to respond sooner, but I've been thinking about your question and didn't really know how to answer it. I'm not a huge fan of drafting for need, so I'm not sure that I would change my draft around much based on my perception of team strengths and weaknesses after one game. The front 7 looked very good, but even so, I'm a proponent of building on strength, so the idea of adding another player or 2 to build a truly dominant front 7 group appeals to me. I strongly believe that the OL and DL are the most important parts of the team after the QB position, and I would continue to prioritize the lines. The Pats look to be very deep and strong at most positions, and that should put them in a position to focus on adding talent rather than plugging holes. I could also see a lot depending on BB taking advantage of values depending on who falls. I'm not ready to do a re-draft after 1 game, so I don't know if that's an adequate answer to your question.
 
I'm not sure BB would want to keep 4 rookie DL's and 3 rookie OL's on the roster (essentially all the backups would be rookies). I would expect a WR, DB and possibly a QB drafted to reduce the number of rookies in one position.
 
I'm not sure BB would want to keep 4 rookie DL's and 3 rookie OL's on the roster (essentially all the backups would be rookies). I would expect a WR, DB and possibly a QB drafted to reduce the number of rookies in one position.

You're probably right. But 2 of each is not unreasonable. The Pats drafted 2 OLs in 2011 (Solder and Cannon) and 2 DEs in 2012 (Jones and Bequette, plus Hightower at LB). In my mock Marquardt would probably be a PS candidate, and Dion Jordan is being used all over the place, not really as a pure DE.
 
He's only a true sophomore, but Stephon Tuitt is someone who really stuck out to me last week in the Notre Dame vs. Purdue game. Getting a 5-technique really isn't important if their current defense is what we're gonna see long term, but he's 6'6", 300 lbs. and still looks like his frame could add more weight without losing athleticism. He's definitely gonna be a 1st round prospect by 2014, the question is how high.
 
I'm not sure BB would want to keep 4 rookie DL's and 3 rookie OL's on the roster (essentially all the backups would be rookies).

Marcus Forston, Chandler Jones, Jake Bequette, and Justin Francis say "Hi."
 
I’ll give it another go before today’s game. Once again I need to be a bit creative to fit my guys in, but it’s too early in the process to worry about that.

Tag and trade Welker for 3rd + 4th
I think this could be Welker’s last year in New England with the focus shifting away from him. This is the same compensation the Cards got for Anquan Boldin

Comp picks in 4th and 5th for Mark Anderson and BJGE
Purely a guess.

1. OL- Barrett Jones- Alabama- 6’4” 305lbs
Mid-way through last season I mocked Jones to the Pats with the idea of moving him to OC. Well Nick Saban must have listened because that is exactly what has happened this year for Alabama, and that only adds more value and versatility to the guy I think is the best O-Lineman in the draft. Jones could step in from day 1 and start at OC or OG and maybe even fill in at OT. He is smart, well coached and battle tested against the best D-Lineman in the SEC over the past few years. At first I thought we would have no chance at getting him because we will be picking at 32, but the more I look the more he seems to be undervalued. It seems Chance Warmack is rated higher by most, and with the depth of this draft its possible Jones could be available at the end of round 1. If he’s not I would also be happy with Warmack or a trade down.




2. LB- CJ Mosley- Alabama- 6’2” 232lbs
Originally I had this pick as Dion Jordan from Oregon because he is an athletic freak. But then I watched some tape of Mosley and he really stood out. He is fast, instinctual and is a very good coverage LBer who would form a fantastic rotation with Mayo, Hightower and Spikes. He also adds versatility on special teams and like all Alabama players (you will see a trend here) he is experienced, tested and well coached. I’ll take the football player over the athlete every day.




3a. DL- Kwame Geathers- Georgia- 6’6” 350lbs
At the moment I am pretty happy with our front 7, especially the two big guys up front. But Wilfork is getting up there in age and you can never have too many quality D-Lineman. Geathers seems perfect as a DT for the Pats two-gap 4-3 where he can use his size and anchor to hold the point of attack and control the line of scrimmage. He is somewhat limited as a pass rusher at this stage but that isn’t an issue with this scheme. He would be a solid two down player that could rotate in with Wilfork and Love and hopefully develop into a monster in the middle of that defense.




3b. WR- Marcus Davis- Virginia Tech- 6’4” 232lbs
We have seen over the past few years the Pats move towards a TE based offense which allows them to create mismatches with defences. I would like to see that continue further by adding even more size, speed and matchup problems outside the numbers with a big, physical WR. Over the past 2 years I have loved Julio Jones and Alshon Jeffery, but there doesn’t seem to be that kind of elite, physical guy in this draft. The closest might be Marcus Davis, who is still raw, but has a ton of upside. At 6’4” 230lbs, Davis has reportedly run a 4.37 40, and holds the Virginia Tech record with a 44 inch vertical. He is by no means a finished product though. He needs to improve his route running and concentration because he has a habit of looking to make a move before he has made the catch, but the upside is immense. Speed and size on the outside to create even more mismatches and demand safety attention will only increase the effectiveness of our TE’s.




4a. TE- Michael Williams- Alabama- 6’6” 270lbs
Now I know most of you will think I’m crazy here, but I believe Michael Williams is the best TE in college football. He may not be the flashy, uber productive pass catching TE that most people fall in love with, but I don’t think any TE in college football adds more to their team than Williams. Since mid last year he has been a binkie of mine, and after watching him again against Arkansas he is a must draft. I don’t care what it takes, a 1st round pick, a trade up, whatever it takes he must be a Patriot. While he hasn’t put up big catch or yardage numbers, what he does do is make the entire offense better. He is the best blocking TE in college football and looks like and extra lineman when he is on the field. He has played a huge part is the success of Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson, as well as Alabama’s QB’s by giving them time and space to make plays. He may not make a ton of catches, but he seems to have good timing when he does by making a play at a key moment. He is a very good athlete and currently underutilized as a receiver by Alabama due to his blocking skills, but in the NFL I think he could flourish. I could see him as a Brandon Pettigrew type TE who is very well rounded and effective in the run game and passing game. Then we take into account his value on special teams units where he also excels and adds even more value. And that is before we get to character, leadership and intangibles where he is as good as it gets. He is a hard worker, team player and true leader that embodies the Patriot way as both a player and a person. Yes, I have a huge man crush on this guy.




4b. DL- Damion Square- Alabama- 6’3” 286lbs
Yep, another Alabama player (and I would take them all if I could). Square is probably overlooked because of the amount of talent around him, but he is a legit NFL prospect as well. With the shift to a 4-3 I think he is a good fit as a heavy LDE on early downs and shifting inside during passing situations. He has good quickness for his size and has experience two gapping for Alabama. It should be a fairly easy transition for him to a 4 man front, especially with his versatility. He is underrated now, but could move up draft boards pretty quickly (I think I read somewhere that someone already thinks he will go in the 1st round).




4c (comp). OT- Seantrel Henderson- Miami- 6’8” 345lbs
Will Vollmer’s injury history and impending free agency, RT could be a big need if the Pats aren’t comfortable with Marcus Cannon. While it may not be a great idea to replace an injury plagued OT with another player with a history of injury, I think Henderson might be too good of value to pass up. The former top OL recruit in the nation a few years ago, Henderson hasn’t quite lived up to the hype yet due to injury. But the talent is certainly there, and at 6’8” 345 lbs he could be a monster RT. He is surprisingly athletic for his size, and with some coaching from Dante, he could be one of the best RT’s in the NFL, provided he stays healthy.




5 (comp). QB- Best Player Available
It seems to me the position that will provide the best value in this draft will surprisingly be QB. There are at least 7 or 8 Senior QB’s who could be solid developmental guys and that is before any underclassman declare. This could be one of the deepest QB drafts in recent memory, and with the amount of young QB’s being drafted high in recent years, the demand doesn’t seem to be there and some quality guys could fall. There are 9 first or second year QB’s starting now in the NFL, and adding the established veterans, the demand for QB doesn’t seem to match the supply. I think it’s very possible that someone like Landry Jones, EJ Manuel, Mike Glennon, Ryan Nassib or even Aaron Murray could be available in the 5th round simply because of the depth and lack of demand. So this could be a perfect opportunity to grab another quality developmental QB.


7. WR- Kyle Prater- Northwestern- 6’4” 215lbs
While I think it’s highly unlikely that Prater declares in 2013 because he is only a Redshirt Sophomore, I would love to take a shot at this guy when he does declare. He has great size, good hands and has the potential of a #1 WR. He isn’t a primary receiver at Northwestern at the moment because he is new to the system after transferring from USC, but I think it’s only a matter of time before he has an impact.





And on a final note, is anyone else amazed by how good this Alabama team is, especially after the amount of talent that has left over the past few years. I have never seen as dominant an O-Line in college football with 3 guys currently projected as 1st round picks and a 4th who is a sophomore who might be the most talented of them all and a future 1st round pick. While their style might not be as exciting as some other teams, for anyone that just appreciates good quality football they are a pleasure to watch. They are more professional than half the teams in the NFL.
 
Great job, Brother Wilfork. I particularly like the Michael Williams and Seantrel Henderson picks. Barrett Jones is obviously a perfect fit assuming he's available and the Pats choose to go in that direction.
 
Great job, Brother Wilfork. I particularly like the Michael Williams and Seantrel Henderson picks. Barrett Jones is obviously a perfect fit assuming he's available and the Pats choose to go in that direction.

Thanks buddy. Its getting harder trying to fit all the guys I want in there though. I love Jessie Williams and Dion Jordan, but I think Williams could go in the 1st and I took Mosley over Jordan. I would also love to pick up a safety because I'm worried about Chung, but its much harder without the extra picks we normally work with. Its still really early though and I'm more focused on just enjoying College games than looking at individual players.
 
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