Player Signing Why did this team sign Tebow?

[chumpchange]

That would be a serious understatement

1/7 for negative 1 yard, 1 interception, 0.0 QB Rating. We would literally have been better off with a dead man playing quarterback.

 

[chumpchange]

Well as I mentioned in the game thread :

I am a big Tebow fan and I wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut . Whatever Tebow has morphed into he doesn't seem to be the guy with ice water in his veins late in games circa 2011. Its sad but he will have no one to blame but himself . I am starting to think the endless tinkering with his mechanics has caused quite a regression.

He throws negative one yard in a whole half of a professional football game, and you 'wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut'?

 

[ATippett56]

As far as the hypothetical TT numbers I used, those were his game stats from a 2011 regular season game against the Vikings. He is in fact capable of it. Now will he do it? I wouldn't bet on it but again he is capable of it.

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Inspector Clouseau: "Not anymore!"

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[supafly]

He throws negative one yard in a whole half of a professional football game, and you 'wouldn't be shocked if he gets cut'?

You've got to give him props though, as Tebow is his guy. He's at least being very honest unlike many of the other Tebow fans who continue to scream out how much he "deserves" more of a chance than all of the other hard working players attempting to make the team.

In my opinion it's refreshing that he can come to grips with this. I actually saw a couple/few posts like this from the Tebow crowd tonight, where they at least looked at it from a very reasonable viewpoint.

One who had even joined the forum as a paying member said goodbye to us all, and thanked us for being cool about talking with him about TT, because he already assumes that he won't be making it.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

As much as I'd like it to happen, I'd be shocked if Tebow gets cut. BB and McD knew all of Tebow's strengths/weaknesses/limitations when they signed him. He's been a lot worse than expected in preseason games so far, but they also watch him in practice every day and formulate part of their judgement on that as well. I think this was a year-long project they decided to take on, right or wrong. The incentive-laden second year of his contract supports that theory. I simply can't imagine anything has or could happen between his signing and now to make them simply give up all of a sudden.

While I agree you do your homework and know the players +/- before signing him, the process then moves into what he does after he is signed and how that meshes with the overall team plans. It's not likely BB is thinking that he is keeping TT regardless.

BB is a guy who goes to the Nth degree to hide player injuries. He goes to the Nth degree to make sure players say little to the media. He goes to the super Nth degree to say as little as possible to the media himself. He cuts, brings back, cuts, brings back etc etc one player to give himself one pretty small added advantage on any given gameday. That's just a sample of the extent at which BB will go to to get a smidgeon of advantage. (Not necessarily directed at you) Why do people believe BB is willing to throw away the very significant advantage of an additional roster spot simply because he and Josh like TT? It's counter to almost everything BB has shown in his tenure as Commander in Chief of the Patriots. IF, and it is a big if, BB keeps TT even with poor on field performance, it will be because he strongly believes there is value in TT. He strongly believes that the reward for training this guy may be significant. I have strong doubts about achieving a payoff from keeping/training TT, but if BB keeps him I will have no doubt that BB thinks there is tangible potential competitive value in keeping him.

 

[supafly]

BB is a guy who goes to the Nth degree to hide player injuries. He goes to the Nth degree to make sure players say little to the media. He goes to the super Nth degree to say as little as possible to the media himself. He cuts, brings back, cuts, brings back etc etc one player to give himself one pretty small added advantage on any given gameday. That's just a sample of the extent at which BB will go to to get a smidgeon of advantage. (Not necessarily directed at you) Why do people believe BB is willing to throw away the very significant advantage of an additional roster spot simply because he and Josh like TT? It's counter to almost everything BB has shown in his tenure as Commander in Chief of the Patriots.

And that's the other side of the coin obviously. Keeping him would defy the usual pattern that we've seen from Belichick.

In my opinion, I still think it may be a little more wide open than some are giving credit for--but then again, I've been shocked by the whole thing since day one.

At this point it's really up to Belichick to determine how much he's willing to look past these horrid preseason performances to a potentially bigger picture, if that's even the plan of course.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

Mrs. Leverlilly: "But that's a priceless Steinway!"

Inspector Clouseau: "Not anymore!"

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Well played sir.......

 

[Fencer]

BB stresses that actual preseason game performance is only part of how a player is judged. But overall, it doesn't seem as if Tebow has been progressing at a very high rate.

BB only has room on the roster for a few guys who aren't ready to contribute yet, and he definitely likes to see progress from them.

 

[Sciz]

I will say this. When you start tinkering with mechanics, which the Pats definitely need to do with Tebow, things often get worse before they get better. Fixing one aspect of his throwing motion would probably throw off everything else, and he'd have to learn how to adjust the rest of his throwing motion to compensate for the change.

I don't know if this has anything to do with his lack of success tonight or not, but either way, I think Tebow's chances of making the roster just went down a ton.

 

[Joker]

at times like these I always turn to MY favorite bard...Joe Shakeskerrpeare...

Te bow, or not te bow: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and tosses of outrageous futility,
Or to take arms against a sea of tacklers,
And by opposing end them? To lose: to sit;
No more; and by a loss to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That a quarterback is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To sit, to watch;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of benchwarming what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal field,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long a delivery..

I think...I'm...gonna.....cry.....hwell:

 

[ATippett56]

at times like these I always turn to MY favorite bard...Joe Shakeskerrpeare...

"Alas, poor Tebow! I knew him well."

P.S. Yes, I know the opening words are very commonly misquoted.

 

[JDot]

Tebow is a curse of a player who needs to go ASAP...

 

[DarrylS]

The apologists must be later sleepers, there has to be something positive out there from last nights performance...

After all he did win two national championships while in Florida, a Heisman and he is a really nice guy...

End the "mercy f...ck" quarterback experiment, maybe another team who passed on him before will give him a second look...

 

[grux]

He must have some info on Josh from the time they spent together in Denver. Could this be blackmail?

 

[Fencer]

at times like these I always turn to MY favorite bard...Joe Shakeskerrpeare...

Te bow, or not te bow: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and tosses of outrageous futility,
Or to take legs against a sea of tacklers,
And by opposing end them? To lose: to sit;
No more; and by a loss to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That a quarterback is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To sit, to watch;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of benchwarming what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal field,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long a delivery..

I think...I'm...gonna.....cry.....hwell:

Well-done, Sir!

However, I have a suggestion as noted above ...

 

[grux]

I agree, but I think the coaching staff has already decided they are going to take the full season to prove it to themselves.

I don't know why the coach's would waste an entire season trying to coach up Tebow. There are plenty of vets available that have more upside.

 

[goheels22002]

at times like these I always turn to MY favorite bard...Joe Shakeskerrpeare...

Te bow, or not te bow: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and tosses of outrageous futility,
Or to take arms against a sea of tacklers,
And by opposing end them? To lose: to sit;
No more; and by a loss to say we end
The heart-ache and the thousand natural shocks
That a quarterback is heir to, 'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wish'd. To sit, to watch;
To sleep: perchance to dream: ay, there's the rub;
For in that sleep of benchwarming what dreams may come
When we have shuffled off this mortal field,
Must give us pause: there's the respect
That makes calamity of so long a delivery..

I think...I'm...gonna.....cry.....hwell:

Checked my Shakespeare and Tebow is mentioned by name in MacBeth, Act V, Scene I:

Lady MacBeth: "Out of your damned roster spot, Tim! Out I say!"

 

[DarrylS]

If anyone cares Timmy's passer rating last night was a whopping.. 0 aka das bubble, nada or lower than whale shyt.

 

[sb1]

The 2 delay of game penalties weren't good either. But.....I will admit the part of his stat line that says 6 carries for 30 yards (would have been more but penalty wiped it out) is nothing to sneeze at.

I still want to see what BB has planned for him over the next 2 weeks. I have a hard time believing running a conventional offense and looking terrible as QB was it... I think BB will show his true intent soon when it comes to the Tebow project.

 

[DarrylS]

An Ian Logue tweet....

Ian Logue @IanLogue
After watching what happened Wednesday & then seeing Tebow tonight (1/7 -1yds 1 INT) I'm wondering if maybe God just likes Tom Brady more.