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This is not trolling. I am going to use an assortment of facts and figures that show that while Brady may clearly be the best of the era, he is not as far ahead of Ben Roethlisberger as many around here seem to think.
Let's start with the bottom line - Brady has 4 Super Bowl appearances in 11 seasons, with 3 wins. Ben has 3 SB appearances in 7 seasons with 2 wins, albeit with one of those wins coming by way of a subpar performance by Ben individually. However, Ben does have the most impressive game winning TD drive of the two men, with one of the most impressive in the history of the game in SB 43. Brady obviously contributed significantly to all 3 of the Pat's SB wins.
To summarize:
Super Bowl appearances per season:
Ben = 3 in 7 years, Brady = 4 in 11 years. We can call that even.
Super Bowl wins:
Ben 2 in 3 appearances, Brady 3 in 4. In spite of Ben's impressive drive in SB 43, his weak showing in his first SB appearance gives Tom the edge in this category. Both men have lost a Super Bowl.
Moving on, here are the career win/loss records for these two men:
Ben:
Reg season: 74-31 (.705)
Post season: 10-3 (.769)
Brady:
Reg season: 16-33 (.779)
Post season: 14-5 (.737)
Here again, both men have impressive winning percentages, with Brady taking the regular season, and Ben having the edge in the post season. We can call this one a draw too.
As far as individual statistics go, clearly Brady has the loftier numbers and overall recoreds, but Roethlisberger also holds records for QB rating and completion percentage by a rookie. He also went 13-0 during the regular season his rookie year, an impressive feat by anyone's standards and record that will probably never be broken.
Ben has a career rating of 92.7, while Brady is at 95.6. Slight edge to Brady although both rank within the top list of all time QB ratings.
However, Ben does hold a significant advantage over Brady in terms of career yards per attempt. Brady = 7.5, Ben = 8.1. Compare Roethlisberger's career YPA of 8.1 to Brett Favre, a man who many here seem to compare Ben to because of his "gunslinger" mentality. Favre only averaged 7.1 YPA in his career. This should put a rest to the talk of Ben being a wild man with no smarts who just throws the ball around.
Overall, give a slight edge to Brady in the stats department, but again, Roethlisberger's stats are much better than many realize or give him credit for.
Let's not also forget that Ben has more 4th quarter and overtime game winning drives in the NFL since 2004, even more than Brady. Although Brady has obviously shown his clutch ability throughout his career as well. Both men give their teams a great chance to win when the chips are down. Let's give a draw in the clutch department.
Hopefully I have shown here that in spite of these two having very different styles, Ben Roethlisberger can and should be considered to be in the same "class" as Tom Brady or any other top QB in the league, with Brady slightly ahead for now. Ten or fifteen years from now, we will be able to look at each man's complete body of work and see who is on top!
Let's start with the bottom line - Brady has 4 Super Bowl appearances in 11 seasons, with 3 wins. Ben has 3 SB appearances in 7 seasons with 2 wins, albeit with one of those wins coming by way of a subpar performance by Ben individually. However, Ben does have the most impressive game winning TD drive of the two men, with one of the most impressive in the history of the game in SB 43. Brady obviously contributed significantly to all 3 of the Pat's SB wins.
To summarize:
Super Bowl appearances per season:
Ben = 3 in 7 years, Brady = 4 in 11 years. We can call that even.
Super Bowl wins:
Ben 2 in 3 appearances, Brady 3 in 4. In spite of Ben's impressive drive in SB 43, his weak showing in his first SB appearance gives Tom the edge in this category. Both men have lost a Super Bowl.
Moving on, here are the career win/loss records for these two men:
Ben:
Reg season: 74-31 (.705)
Post season: 10-3 (.769)
Brady:
Reg season: 16-33 (.779)
Post season: 14-5 (.737)
Here again, both men have impressive winning percentages, with Brady taking the regular season, and Ben having the edge in the post season. We can call this one a draw too.
As far as individual statistics go, clearly Brady has the loftier numbers and overall recoreds, but Roethlisberger also holds records for QB rating and completion percentage by a rookie. He also went 13-0 during the regular season his rookie year, an impressive feat by anyone's standards and record that will probably never be broken.
Ben has a career rating of 92.7, while Brady is at 95.6. Slight edge to Brady although both rank within the top list of all time QB ratings.
However, Ben does hold a significant advantage over Brady in terms of career yards per attempt. Brady = 7.5, Ben = 8.1. Compare Roethlisberger's career YPA of 8.1 to Brett Favre, a man who many here seem to compare Ben to because of his "gunslinger" mentality. Favre only averaged 7.1 YPA in his career. This should put a rest to the talk of Ben being a wild man with no smarts who just throws the ball around.
Overall, give a slight edge to Brady in the stats department, but again, Roethlisberger's stats are much better than many realize or give him credit for.
Let's not also forget that Ben has more 4th quarter and overtime game winning drives in the NFL since 2004, even more than Brady. Although Brady has obviously shown his clutch ability throughout his career as well. Both men give their teams a great chance to win when the chips are down. Let's give a draw in the clutch department.
Hopefully I have shown here that in spite of these two having very different styles, Ben Roethlisberger can and should be considered to be in the same "class" as Tom Brady or any other top QB in the league, with Brady slightly ahead for now. Ten or fifteen years from now, we will be able to look at each man's complete body of work and see who is on top!
