The Mahomes/Chiefs Discussion Thread

[SHOWTIME15]

Read Brady's lips: "I can beat you on one leg, punk!"

Then why was he running on said "injured leg?" The guy didn't look like he had a torn MCL to me.



Also in that super bowl:

Chiefs - 11 penalties, 120 yards

Bucs - 4 penalties, 39 yards

But keep complaining about the officiating helping Mahomes. It looks like Brady got all the referee help in SB55…

 

[Guts]

To stay on topic the Chiefs can and should be overwhelming favorites to repeat next year. Their core defensive players are all young, Mahomes contract is a bargain now, and their Oline is legit.
Veach drafts well too.
They do have a tough schedule though
AFC East, NFC North, and the Eagles added as well.
Ultimately injuries is the equalizer

 

[SHOWTIME15]

To stay on topic the Chiefs can and should be overwhelming favorites to repeat next year. Their core defensive players are all young, Mahomes contract is a bargain now, and their Oline is legit.
Veach drafts well too.
They do have a tough schedule though
AFC East, NFC North, and the Eagles added as well.
Ultimately injuries is the equalizer

Well, free agency and the draft can also be equalizers. Case in point, the Chiefs had 9 rookies play in the Super Bowl, the most in 30+ years. They had an incredibly good draft class with Karlaftis and McDuffie (both available for NE to take) as well as Pacchico, Skyy Moore, and Jalen Watson. Cincy and Buffalo could have a great draft.

I wouldn't call them "overwhelming favorites." The Bengals, Bills, and Chiefs are all going to be good and have the potential to win the AFC, with teams like Jax and Dolphins in the next tier.

 

[Guts]

Well, free agency and the draft can also be equalizers. Case in point, the Chiefs had 9 rookies play in the Super Bowl, the most in 30+ years. They had an incredibly good draft class with Karlaftis and McDuffie (both available for NE to take) as well as Pacchico, Skyy Moore, and Jalen Watson. Cincy and Buffalo could have a great draft.

I wouldn't call them "overwhelming favorites." The Bengals, Bills, and Chiefs are all going to be good and have the potential to win the AFC, with teams like Jax and Dolphins in the next tier.

I don't know i only see the Bengals being a threat. The bildos are paper champions
Although they do play KC close. Always a one possession game

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I don't know i only see the Bengals being a threat. The bildos are paper champions
Although they do play KC close. Always a one possession game

They don't have great coaching and neither does BUffalo. This is why I keep saying Bill and Brady were such an instrumental part of the Pats success. You need a great QB as well as a great HC to become a dynasty. If you don't have one or the other, you are likely one SB and done.

 

[crawhammer]

Then why was he running on said "injured leg?" The guy didn't look like he had a torn MCL to me.

I suspect you're not a doctor.

But keep complaining about the officiating helping Mahomes. It looks like Brady got all the referee help in SB55…

Right, the officiating was instrumental in a 31-9 massacre.

 

[crawhammer]

They don't have great coaching and neither does BUffalo. This is why I keep saying Bill and Brady were such an instrumental part of the Pats success. You need a great QB as well as a great HC to become a dynasty. If you don't have one or the other, you are likely one SB and done.

What's wrong with Taylor and McDermott (who owns Belichick)?

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I suspect you're not a doctor.

You have to be a moron to be running on a torn mcl for no reason other than to trash talk in the middle of the Super Bowl. If he really had that injury he could have made it worse. Either that the injury was not that bad in the first place.

Right, the officiating was instrumental in a 31-9 massacre.

It can be when you have Mahomes at QB.

 

[crawhammer]

You have to be a moron to be running on a torn mcl for no reason other than to trash talk in the middle of the Super Bowl. If he really had that injury he could have made it worse. Either that the injury was not that bad in the first place.

The MCL was torn and he had surgery in the off-season. He played on it for the entirety of 2020. It was a pain tolerance issue, it was torn, it doesn't get worse than torn.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

The MCL was torn and he had surgery in the off-season. He played on it for the entirety of 2020. It was a pain tolerance issue, it was torn, it doesn't get worse than torn.

Whatever. If he was able to run around and not limp, then the injury wasn't a big deal. You accuse me of not being a Doctor. Well Dr. Chao says that the Brady's knee was probably damaged but the injury was likely overblown. And do you realize that even the smallest knee sprain is by definition "a tearing of fibers?"

Does the latest report of Tom Brady playing through an MCL tear (whether complete or partial) for the entire season and winning the Super Bowl add to his lore as the GOAT? The answer is an unequivocal “no.”

In my experience as an NFL head team physician, there is no way anyone could play with a complete (grade 3) MCL tear. However, up to one-third of the team typically plays with a previous MCL sprain with residual laxity and usually without a brace. When an MCL is sprained (which, by definition, means fibers are torn), healing is routine without surgery but commonly there is some persistent looseness.

David Chao, MD: Tom Brady Is Not Super Human, But This Was His Third MCL Surgery

Does the latest report of Tom Brady playing through an MCL tear (whether complete or partial) for the entire season and winning the Super Bowl add to his lore as the GOAT? The answ

www.outkick.com

 

[crawhammer]

Whatever. If he was able to run around and not limp, then the injury wasn't a big deal. You accuse me of not being a Doctor. Well Dr. Chao says that the Brady's knee was probably damaged but the injury was likely overblown. And do you realize that even the smallest knee sprain is by definition "a tearing of fibers?"

David Chao, MD: Tom Brady Is Not Super Human, But This Was His Third MCL Surgery

Does the latest report of Tom Brady playing through an MCL tear (whether complete or partial) for the entire season and winning the Super Bowl add to his lore as the GOAT? The answ

www.outkick.com

Did this hater examine Brady's knee? At best he's speculating with zero direct information. Perhaps he should talk to the surgeon who repaired the MCL.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Did this hater examine Brady's knee? At best he's speculating with zero direct information. Perhaps he should talk to the surgeon who repaired the MCL.

Great, so your speculation that he had a fully torn MCL is just that…speculation. Glad we cleared that up.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Great, so your speculation that he had a fully torn MCL is just that…speculation. Glad we cleared that up.

Good God, you aren't even good at English.

What you are saying is speculation.

What @crawhammer is saying is fact:

https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/n...he then 43-year-old,12 months to recover from.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Good God, you aren't even good at English.

What you are saying is speculation.

What @crawhammer is saying is fact:

https://www.si.com/nfl/buccaneers/news/tom-brady-feeling-good-after-mcl-reconstruction#:~:text=The then 43-year-old,12 months to recover from.

And 90% of what Brady says is a lie, according to him.

The Bucs never said anything about his knee. In any event, he was running just fine from 2019 to 2020, as no one saw him limping around. In 2019 and 2020 he rushed for around 30 yards, which is pretty much average for him. We saw him run right up to Tyrann Mattieu in the Super Bowl on the so-called "torn MCL."

And from a guy who is more often right than wrong on medical issues involving players..

Dr. David Chao: "In my experience as an NFL head team physician, there is no way anyone could play with a complete (grade 3) MCL tear." So either Brady was misinformed as to what the Doctors actually did during his surgery, or he is just lying.

 

[crawhammer]

Great, so your speculation that he had a fully torn MCL is just that…speculation. Glad we cleared that up.

Don't be so obtuse for a moment. Brady had surgery in February 2021 after the Super Bowl. He rehabbed the knee that off-season. It was widely reported as a "torn MCL" including by Ian Rapoport, SI and others. Brady called it "pretty serious." The Bucs organization acknowledged the injury. Arians talked about it. I'm not speculating.

The only source you're citing, David Chao, is speculating. He did not examine Brady, or review any imaging of the knee, or review the medical record, or consult with the surgeon, or speak directly with Brady or anyone from the Bucs organization. Chao is merely speculating while also ignoring or dismissing multiple sources who contradict his speculation.

You just can't fathom Brady played an entire season with a serious knee injury because he beat your team the Chiefs on one leg and he's not an injury fraud like Mahomes. Philip Rivers played with a torn ACL in 2007, some players are tough.

 

[The Brandon Five]

And 90% of what Brady says is a lie, according to him.

The Bucs never said anything about his knee. In any event, he was running just fine from 2019 to 2020, as no one saw him limping around. In 2019 and 2020 he rushed for around 30 yards, which is pretty much average for him. We saw him run right up to Tyrann Mattieu in the Super Bowl on the so-called "torn MCL."

And from a guy who is more often right than wrong on medical issues involving players..

Dr. David Chao: "In my experience as an NFL head team physician, there is no way anyone could play with a complete (grade 3) MCL tear."

Logan Mankins played a whole season with a torn ACL, so I don't give a feck what Dr. Chao says.

Logan Mankins explains how he played entire season with torn ACL.

Tom played a four games in 2005 with a severe sports hernia He was a tough player. Deal with it.

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2014/12/11/new-england-patriots-tom-brady-fun-facts

2. He played four games in 2005 with an unfortunate below-the-belt injury.

Brady injured his shin in Week 14, and suffered a sports hernia the next week. The latter injury caused his testicles to swell to three times their normal size. But Brady played through the pain in New England's last two regular season games and two playoff games, causing backup quarterback Matt Cassel to quip, "So, yeah, Tom Brady has big balls."

 

[sb1]

Just checked again... yep Brady still owns Mahomes in games that matter.

 

[sb1]

And 90% of what Brady says is a lie, according to him.

Funny that I haven't seen or heard a single quote from Brady that says "90% of what I say is a lie".

 

[The Brandon Five]

And 90% of what Brady says is a lie, according to him.

That's ironic given that 99% of what you post is utter bollocks.

 

[sb1]

Funny that fans complain about how announcers talk up Brady over the years. I've never heard Brady praised for an incomplete pass like Mahomes was: