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Content Post The 2012 season: the Jets [Mod Edit: STILL] suck

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The real question should be which one would perform better in NE. Put a real team around them and either one of them could be decent. Look at Alex Smith. What Rex did to Sanchez is a travesty.

A travesty? Are you like a Jets fan from GangGreen just posting here posing as a Patriots fan to make ridiculous statements? Sanchez is a horrible quarterback. Rex Ryan is a fraud as a "defensive genius." They were made for each other.
 
Sanchez is the least of the Jets' problems. His head has been mangled by Rex, he has no help either at WR or RB, their defense is now pretty average. He's going to suck. Brady would suck down there and Sanchez would be at least as good as Cassell was in 2008 with the right coaching and personnel around him.

Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.

Have you watched him this season? Yes he lacks talent but even if Sanchez has guys open he still misses them. He is just a bad QB. Plus the guy is just a flat out ***** - i hate seeing a QB sulk and mope. No character at all.

And Brady has put up good numbers without all-world talent.
 
Sanchez is the least of the Jets' problems. His head has been mangled by Rex, he has no help either at WR or RB, their defense is now pretty average. He's going to suck. Brady would suck down there and Sanchez would be at least as good as Cassell was in 2008 with the right coaching and personnel around him.

Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.
 
Undercover Yets fan....
 
How can some of you people argue that what Woody Johnson (are you sure he's not a porn star?), Mike Tanenbaum, and Rex Ryan have done is not a travesty?

The Three Stooges have systematically dis-assembled a team that was in the AFC Championship game just a few years ago and turned it into a team with no identity, no depth, an anemic offense and a middling defense.

It just goes to show that your mother was right when she told you that good things will happen if you eat right, brush your teeth after every meal and say your prayers before bedtime.
 
Maybe we should loan them the money to keep the players they have? Why would we want them to get rid of anyone? There are 12-14 perfectly good undrafted free agents out of college that would be an improvement over their current scrubs starting.

......and there are another 4,000-5,000 who aren't.

Guess which ones the Jets will be signing.
 
How can some of you people argue that what Woody Johnson (are you sure he's not a porn star?), Mike Tanenbaum, and Rex Ryan have done is not a travesty?

The Three Stooges have systematically dis-assembled a team that was in the AFC Championship game just a few years ago and turned it into a team with no identity, no depth, an anemic offense and a middling defense.

It just goes to show that your mother was right when she told you that good things will happen if you eat right, brush your teeth after every meal and say your prayers before bedtime.

Their drafts have been horrible since like 08(Keller is probably the best of the bunch) and they have the audacity to call BB a ****ty drafter lmao. The gap since 08 is about the size of the grand canyon and it really is showing.
 
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Their drafts have been horrible since like 08(Keller is probably the best of the bunch) and they have the audacity to call BB a ****ty drafter lmao. The gap since 08 is about the size of the grand canyon and it really is showing.

Someone needs to update that Jets Fan talking point memo. It would also be a sort of good idea to get ahead of the curve about how BB can't coach defense anymore I'm thinking we're coming out of that desert now, and can look forward to something a little more like the 03-04 days with some ahem work on the secondary. I'm starting to be happy about the front 7.
 
Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.

Absolutely, Sanchez would look better if he had a great receiving corps. And a receiving corps with Holmes, Keller & Hill could be solid if they had a more accurate QB throwing to them. Of course Sanchez would be more accurate if his OL bought him more time. And the OL wouldn't struggle so badly if the receivers were getting open, or if the running backs represented a legitimate threat. But how much can the RBs do behind that kind of OL?

Remember, the Jets have plenty of talent. You just can't see it because the talent of each and every player is obscured by the lack of talent of each and every other player.
 
The real question should be which one would perform better in NE. Put a real team around them and either one of them could be decent. Look at Alex Smith. What Rex did to Sanchez is a travesty.

Sanchez had talent around him in 2009 and 2010. A lot of people in those times argued that it was more talent than Brady had around him at that point. And what do you know? He still sucked.
 
How can some of you people argue that what Woody Johnson (are you sure he's not a porn star?), Mike Tanenbaum, and Rex Ryan have done is not a travesty?

The Three Stooges have systematically dis-assembled a team that was in the AFC Championship game just a few years ago and turned it into a team with no identity, no depth, an anemic offense and a middling defense.

It just goes to show that your mother was right when she told you that good things will happen if you eat right, brush your teeth after every meal and say your prayers before bedtime.

Those Rats AFCCG* appearances really need an asterisk. They were both fluke occurences.

Bill Parcells has been quoted as saying "you are what your record says you are", but the Rats are the exception that proves the rule.
 
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Sanchez is the least of the Jets' problems. His head has been mangled by Rex, he has no help either at WR or RB, their defense is now pretty average. He's going to suck. Brady would suck down there and Sanchez would be at least as good as Cassell was in 2008 with the right coaching and personnel around him.

Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.

And if Sanchez had receivers who were 8 feet tall with four foot arms and he went up against teams with defensive lines filled with dwarves, he would be an All Pro.

Yes, his receivers suck and are a big part of his problem, but Sanchez is also a big part of his own problems. He is a wildly inaccurate thrower. Also, I can't remember a QB who gets more balls tipped at the line of scrimmage as he does. If Sanchez had Megatron, Larry Johnson, and Gronk as his receivers; I still don't know if he could complete 60% of his passes.

Sanchez has always been a guy who can have some really good throws in a game followed by some of the most stupid and poor passes you have ever seen.
 
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Sanchez is the least of the Jets' problems. His head has been mangled by Rex, he has no help either at WR or RB, their defense is now pretty average. He's going to suck. Brady would suck down there and Sanchez would be at least as good as Cassell was in 2008 with the right coaching and personnel around him.

Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.

Sanchez is a bottom tier QB. Feel free to slot him among the 32 starters. You'll find him down along with Blaine Gabbert. There Jets suck for a lot of reasons. At the top of the list is the poor quarterback play.

And spare me the "talent around him" stuff. It's one thing to note that the talent is weak. It's another to use that to absolve him of all blame. Tannehill's working with a lousy group, and he's a rookie.
 
Was drinking coffee and lurking around the Phins forum.

Even Dolphin fans are laughing at Jets fans now. lol.

What Dolphins forum is that? I've always enjoyed the Dolphins fans, although I can't ever share their feelings about Don Shula. I simply cannot stand the guy.

I've been checking out the Jets board a little this year, and I'm (once again) starting to have some sympathy for them. I have memories of a time when we were the laughingstock of the NFL too. My how times have changed.

The Bills are an amazing team really. It seems like no lead is big enough for them to hold or to make up. What other team can get down by 21, go up by 21 and then lose by 21? Their fans might be a touch on the bi-polar side.

As for us Pats fans, what's not to like? :halo::halo::halo:
 
Sanchez is a bottom tier QB. Feel free to slot him among the 32 starters. You'll find him down along with Blaine Gabbert. There Jets suck for a lot of reasons. At the top of the list is the poor quarterback play.

And spare me the "talent around him" stuff. It's one thing to note that the talent is weak. It's another to use that to absolve him of all blame. Tannehill's working with a lousy group, and he's a rookie.

Tannehill's making Brian Hartline look like a stud. Hate to say it, but the future could be bright for that kid. Doesn't hurt, I suppose, to walk right into the same offense that you played in college.
 
Deus, the problem is that you're not factoring in the JetsMultiplier(TM).

Remember that each individual Jets offensive player's statistics are depressed by the low level of surrounding talent, so you have to multiply all of their stats by 1.6 to determine their Patriots-equivalent production. Once you do that, you discover that the Jets offense actually has the same talent level as the Patriots!

For example, Shonn Greene's 2.9 ypc, times the JetsMultiplier, yields Ridley's 4.8 ypc. Marc Sanchez' 66.6 passer rating (AKA "The Rating of the Beast"), times the JetsMultipler, yields Brady's 103 passer rating.

In other words, the Jets are all so bad that it obscures how good they all are. I learned this by reading apologias for each player on JetsInsider.

That's one of the best posts I've read in my time here. Thanks.

As for Sanchez, I don't ever remember seeing an NFL QB that throws the chuck-and-duck pass like that kid.
 
The real question should be which one would perform better in NE. Put a real team around them and either one of them could be decent. Look at Alex Smith. What Rex did to Sanchez is a travesty.

Sanchez had a "real team" around him for the first 3 years of his career. He just isn't a good NFL quarterback.
 
Sanchez is the least of the Jets' problems. His head has been mangled by Rex, he has no help either at WR or RB, their defense is now pretty average. He's going to suck. Brady would suck down there and Sanchez would be at least as good as Cassell was in 2008 with the right coaching and personnel around him.

Jaws said he made plenty of really good throws against the Texans. Unfortunately they were either dropped or the routes botched. He's going to look much worse than he would be on a good team.

I'm not going to kill your post here because so many others already have. But I just want to point out that from 01-03 Tom Brady had less skill position talent around him than Sanchez has had his entire career, and you can tell the difference in them from a mile away as well as from the stat sheet.
Less that 50% completions is pathetic, regardless of who the other 10 out there with him are.
 
Look at Sanchez season to season stats. He's like a bottom 5 quarterback every single season, even when surrounded by good players and a top 5 defense. The guy is a loser. Jets fans that defend him and want to keep him deserve to remain losers and take over the basement of the AFC East.

The Jets win over the 2010 14-2 Patriots was an anomaly. The Patriots first drive had them completely bewildered until Brady threw his first interception in like 10 games which just turned the momentum of the game for good.

The Patriots stomped them out 45-3 just 3 weeks before. That was a potential Superbowl ring that slipped through our fingers. That Pats team would of beaten the Steelers in the AFC Championship game decisively.

Sanchez would suck in New England. Even mentioning him being on New England I feel could potentially put a voodoo curse on us because it sounds so perverse. I'm not going to sprinkle holy water all over my keyboard just to avoid it.

Sanchez is a garbage quarterback. He isn't even a competent game manager.

He deserves Rex Ryan, and Rex Ryan deserves Sanchez. Yets, Yets, Yets.
 
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What Dolphins forum is that? I've always enjoyed the Dolphins fans, although I can't ever share their feelings about Don Shula. I simply cannot stand the guy.

I've been checking out the Jets board a little this year, and I'm (once again) starting to have some sympathy for them. I have memories of a time when we were the laughingstock of the NFL too. My how times have changed.

The Bills are an amazing team really. It seems like no lead is big enough for them to hold or to make up. What other team can get down by 21, go up by 21 and then lose by 21? Their fans might be a touch on the bi-polar side.

As for us Pats fans, what's not to like? :halo::halo::halo:

It's called ThePhins.com or something. Just google Dolphins forum, it should come up first.

As for having sympathy for the Jets. Resist the temptation.
If the roles were reversed they would gleefully pick at our carcass. Remember 2010, remember Rex Ryan trying to make himself a great coach by constantly saying "coach vrs coach" when he played Belichick, remember how often they refer to us as cheaters.

No mercy for the Jets.

OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!
 
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