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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Would you considering worth drafting at the end of the 3rd?
Now THAT's the kind of guy I'd like to pick up in the 3rd on a reach, or even with our last 2nd. He won the underwear Olympics in my mind. And I liked the way he went after that DB.Knox is on a par with Noah Fant/George Kittle athletically.
This is him in the slot blocking a DB
Now THAT's the kind of guy I'd like to pick up in the 3rd on a reach, or even with our last 2nd. He won the underwear Olympics in my mind. And I liked the way he went after that DB.
I'm getting more and more comfortable that there is a good possibility that we can find, not a replacement for Gronk, but at least viable TE option for the overall scheme of our offense. I'd be fine with any of Warring, Sternberger, or Knox from the 3rd round down.
Would you considering worth drafting at the end of the 3rd?
Knox is on a par with Noah Fant/George Kittle athletically.
This is him in the slot blocking a DB
Dwayne Allen was a failure as a Tight End for the Patriots. He was brought in to help with the offense, he didn't. At all. So he wound up as a glorified 6th o-lineman. what would be the point in keeping him until preseason? The Patriots were not going to pay him 6.9 million dollars to be a blocker. Better off bringing in other people - draft em, sign em, trade for em, whatever and seeing what they can do. You already know what Allen brought to the table for the Patriots - Nothing.I agree tha Izzo is the presumed replacement for Allen. Imo, we do not have ANY reason to believe that Izzo is ready to take that role. I would have waited until the pre-season to make that determination. Because we didn't want to make early restructuring changes, there will be no competition between Allen and Izzo.
Dwayne Allen was a failure as a Tight End for the Patriots. .
I strongly disagree. Allen was an essential part of the running game. You seem to think that blocking isn't important. Allen's compensation wasn't $6.9M. I think that a blocking TE was/is worth $4M AAV. I believe that Allen was going to cost $5M, too much.
i'm thinking bring Gronk back. He needs to crack 80 then 90 TDs anyway. I kind of thinking/hope that is what is going to happen. Holding out hope.You can disagree all you want, but the facts are he is not here anymore. Some one at 1 Patriot Place agrees with me. He is not worth it ... not 5 million, not 4 million... he didn't even get those numbers in free agency. If the Patriots offered him 4 million he would still be here. That has to tell you you are significantly over valuing the player and his role with the team.
Dwayne Allen was not brought to New England to be "part of the running game". You have to understand this, right? He was brought to New England to be a Tight End and he wound up being a third rate offensive lineman. That is a failure, no matter how you want to spin it, especially at 7 million dollars for the final year of his contract.
You seem to think its okay to dedicate a roster spot for a guy who only brought blocking to the table for the Patriots. Even more-so now it is more important to have a versatile player in that role where you can some offensive production. And you wanted to keep him on the team thru the camp, taking reps from guys who might actually need them so they can learn to contribute more then he could....
You can disagree all you want, but the facts are he is not here anymore. Some one at 1 Patriot Place agrees with me. He is not worth it ... not 5 million, not 4 million... he didn't even get those numbers in free agency. If the Patriots offered him 4 million he would still be here. That has to tell you you are significantly over valuing the player and his role with the team.
Dwayne Allen was not brought to New England to be "part of the running game". You have to understand this, right? He was brought to New England to be a Tight End and he wound up being a third rate offensive lineman. That is a failure, no matter how you want to spin it, especially at 7 million dollars for the final year of his contract.
You seem to think its okay to dedicate a roster spot for a guy who only brought blocking to the table for the Patriots. Even more-so now it is more important to have a versatile player in that role where you can some offensive production. And you wanted to keep him on the team thru the camp, taking reps from guys who might actually need them so they can learn to contribute more then he could....
1. Allen was brought in to be more than a blocker. You know, replace Martellus Bennett. Get it? There is more to a tight end than blocking. You should expect more.
2. Allens salary for 2019 was to be 6.9 million dollars, with 500k of that as a bonus on the third day of the new season. His cap hit was going to be 7.4 million. BB and Allen talked about keeping him here, but not at those figures. Since he signed in Miami for 3.25 a year, what does that tell you about what the Patriots offered him? Yeah..... So what were you were saying about the cap? That you want to spend 4 million dollars on a guy
3. Sure Blocking is important. Never said it wasn't. What you guys cant seem to grasp is that you don't need to tie up a roster spot with a TE2 who only blocks. Versatility, roster building 101 in New England, in case you haven't noticed.
4. So what else did Allen bring to the team besides blocking? Answer me this - What more did he bring?
5. The last thing is this - You are dead wrong. If Allen were so valuable to this team, he would still be here. Hes not. BB let him walk over a paltry 3.25 million a year.
1. Allen was brought in to be more than a blocker. You know, replace Martellus Bennett. Get it? There is more to a tight end than blocking. You should expect more.
2. Allens salary for 2019 was to be 6.9 million dollars, with 500k of that as a bonus on the third day of the new season. His cap hit was going to be 7.4 million. BB and Allen talked about keeping him here, but not at those figures. Since he signed in Miami for 3.25 a year, what does that tell you about what the Patriots offered him? Yeah..... So what were you were saying about the cap? That you want to spend 4 million dollars on a guy
3. Sure Blocking is important. Never said it wasn't. What you guys cant seem to grasp is that you don't need to tie up a roster spot with a TE2 who only blocks. Versatility, roster building 101 in New England, in case you haven't noticed.
4. So what else did Allen bring to the team besides blocking? Answer me this - What more did he bring?
5. The last thing is this - You are dead wrong. If Allen were so valuable to this team, he would still be here. Hes not. BB let him walk over a paltry 3.25 million a year.
1. Clearly you never actually watched any games over the past couple years. If you had, you'd know that Allen was relegated to blocking a majority of the time because that's what the Pats needed from him. Especially after Cannon got hurt in 2017. Allen wasn't brought in to replace Bennett. Bennett was a level above Allen. Allen was brought in to be the TE2 L.
2. I'm saying that I've forgotten more about the cap than you''e shown you have knowledge.
3. Dude. You crapped on blocking in your post that I responded to. You made it sound worthless. You clearly don't understand that TEs with few exceptions are asked to block more than 75% of the game. All you did was talk negatively about blocking. Without Dwayne Allen, the Patriots don't have the dominant running game and likely don't make the SB.
4. Allen brough intangibles called professionalism and leadership. Things you haven't shown you understand.
5. I'm not "dead wrong". As I stayed, Correlation doesn't equal causation. You don't seem to grasp that simple concept.
I know it was only the 4th preseason game against low level competition but I thought Izzo blocked and caught passes effectively in that game. He's had a year to sit and watch. I'm hoping he will be a contributor.