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Schefter: Mounting belief Browns take Mayfield #1 overall

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The Cleveland Browns are 2nd all-time in championships won per years played, right behind the Green Bay Packers. Here are the top 5;

1) Packers - 13 titles in 96 years .1354%
2) Browns - 8 titles in 68 years .1176%
It is generous to give them 8 titles as 4 of them were as part of a league that no longer exists.
 
The Cleveland Browns are 2nd all-time in championships won per years played, right behind the Green Bay Packers. Here are the top 5;

1) Packers - 13 titles in 96 years .1354%
2) Browns - 8 titles in 68 years .1176%
3) Colts/Ravens - 5 titles in 53 years .0943%
4) Bears - 9 titles in 97 years .0928%
5) Patriots - 5 titles in 57 years .0877%
5) Cowboys - 5 titles in 57 years .0877%

They also have some great fans. Certainly better than the Jete fans...by a country mile.

Yes, because the browns of the 50s and 60s are the same as the Browns today.
 
Any Jaire Alexander fans? Reminds me of Janoris Jenkins when he came out. If he there's at 23 i wouldn't be upset if they took him. They could use another corner.
 
Any Jaire Alexander fans? Reminds me of Janoris Jenkins when he came out. If he there's at 23 i wouldn't be upset if they took him. They could use another corner.

You should check in at the draft forum, there’s a lot of Alexander fans there. I’d take him ahead of the linebackers and OTs.
 
I'm by no means a draft guru or draft expert, but I have to say, that I'm totally shocked by this.

If this wasn't Schefter that tweeted this, I wouldn't believe it.
 
I've heard lots and lots of interviews with Rosen.

We will just disagree on this matter. I’m not sold that he’s going to be 100% committed to football for a long period of time. To me that’s a football related issue.
 
Kontra you have pimped Baker Mayfield all year and said he could be the Best QB from this Draft...Are you running the Browns organization now??

I could probably do a better job in my sleep than those that have been.
 
Any Jaire Alexander fans? Reminds me of Janoris Jenkins when he came out. If he there's at 23 i wouldn't be upset if they took him. They could use another corner.

I’ve let my feeling known on this guy. #1 corner written all over him, best corner in the draft
 
When was the last time a QB under 6' 1" was drafted in the top 10?

Yes, short quarterbacks can indeed succeed. That doesn't mean that they aren't significant risks as top 10 draftees.
 
Cleveland is not far from turning it around. Which is saying something for a team that didn't log a single win.

I agree. I'm not a huge Jarvis Landry fan but I think he'll work well with Josh Gordon across from them, and I think Corey Coleman still has potential. Carlos Hyde and EJ Gaines were underrated pickups. Tyrod Taylor is a passable bridge starter. They have a really good defensive line shaping up. I think you're right. They could use a starting corner across from EJ Gaines, another linebacker, another rotational defensive end, and some offensive linemen (the only plus starter they have after Thomas retired is Bitonio) but I think they have a shot at being an 8-8, 9-7 team this season and even sneaking into the wild card.
 
It would be a typical browns move. They wouldn't be scared at all considering they took manziel from that school before. Just hope they don't ruin him.
why would they not?
 
I'm by no means a draft guru or draft expert, but I have to say, that I'm totally shocked by this.

If this wasn't Schefter that tweeted this, I wouldn't believe it.

Schefter has been getting played a lot by NFL teams recently. He was the one who said Tom Brady hadn’t committed to the 2018 season.
 
I'd take Mayfield over Allen or Darnold too. I think Rosen's a better passer but I think Mayfield's a good choice if youre going to give him a redshirt year to get accustomed to the NFL. I don't think he's ready because he's coming from that spread and isn't used to being under center or throwing into tight windows, but the Browns don't plan to force him into action anyways. I think the offensive players they would have around him are the right guys for Mayfield's skillset.
 
I agree. I'm not a huge Jarvis Landry fan but I think he'll work well with Josh Gordon across from them, and I think Corey Coleman still has potential. Carlos Hyde and EJ Gaines were underrated pickups. Tyrod Taylor is a passable bridge starter. They have a really good defensive line shaping up. I think you're right. They could use a starting corner across from EJ Gaines, another linebacker, another rotational defensive end, and some offensive linemen (the only plus starter they have after Thomas retired is Bitonio) but I think they have a shot at being an 8-8, 9-7 team this season and even sneaking into the wild card.

Don’t get me wrong, I think Cleveland WILL be a better team, especially with all the picks they have. However, their ownership, coaching and the city of Cleveland itself leaves a lot to be desired. I would think Mayfield would be happier in New York or Denver.
 
If I am comparing top QB's, I believe that some of the physical attributes matter.

A year or two of patriot coaching coaching, along with playing with our team, could make any of the 4 a top quarterback. However, 2 years won't make Mayfield taller or his hands bigger.

I'd take Mayfield over Allen or Darnold too. I think Rosen's a better passer but I think Mayfield's a good choice if youre going to give him a redshirt year to get accustomed to the NFL. I don't think he's ready because he's coming from that spread and isn't used to being under center or throwing into tight windows, but the Browns don't plan to force him into action anyways. I think the offensive players they would have around him are the right guys for Mayfield's skillset.
 
When was the last time a QB under 6' 1" was drafted in the top 10?

Yes, short quarterbacks can indeed succeed. That doesn't mean that they aren't significant risks as top 10 draftees.

Two examples of QB's under 6'1" that have been extremely successful are of course Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. Besides both having extremely good football intelligence, what do both have in common? Extraordinary athleticism.

With Russell Wilson all you need to do is what him play for a few minutes to appreciate his athletic gifts, plus he could probably be a professional baseball player if he wasn't playing football.

With Drew Brees, he isn't thought of as an amazing athlete because he is short and white, but at 12 he was the top-ranked tennis player in Texas and defeated Andy Roddick three times as a junior, and the same year he set an Austin city record with 14 Little League home runs and was chosen to play on a youth soccer select team.

In contrast, Baker Mayfield has no such amazing athletic background and was a walk-on at Texas Tech. It is extremely impressive that he has pulled himself up by his bootstraps and achieved the success that he has, but that doesn't change the fact that he is not in the same galaxy athletically as other shorter successful quarterback like Wilson and Brees.
 
Schefter has been getting played a lot by NFL teams recently. He was the one who said Tom Brady hadn’t committed to the 2018 season.

I'd still believe him more than anyone else out there.
 
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