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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Now I'm just quoting the "reports" here. Simmons, prior to his injury, was slated to likely be a top 8 pick. That is the kind of player that Pats NEVER get a shot at....except if there is "an issue".But they're really not the the exception--they're the rule. Aside from injuries, how many first-round Pats picks have not played a significant role and started multiple games as rookies? None in the last decade at least.
It's not an argument against drafting Simmons in particular, I'm just skeptical of the notion that missing a year is no big deal because Patriots rookies don't play anyway.
Now I'm just quoting the "reports" here. Simmons, prior to his injury, was slated to likely be a top 8 pick. That is the kind of player that Pats NEVER get a shot at....except if there is "an issue".
Lance Zierlein has the Patriots selecting Defensive Tackle Jeffrey Simmons, Junior, Mississippi State
Lance Zierlein 2019 NFL mock draft 2.0: Giants reload at WR, QB
A bit high for my liking but he is terrific on the field. Top 7 for me.It should be noted that he has him graded as the 2nd best player in the draft ahead of Nick Bosa.
Your second point may have more validity than you first one.I agree in principle, but as Easley showed us, those "issues" sometimes linger. Plus this isn't exactly an ideal time for the Patriots to allot their #1 pick to a guy who beat up a woman as she lay curled up helpless on the ground. On balance, I don't see this as a "JUMP at the chance" situation, but more of a "proceed with caution."
It was both, a simple truth of which Bill & his ignorant lackeys (including Easily-lover Mike Lombardi) should've been more than well aware....So if you want to bang on Bill for the Easley pick, go ahead, but he didn't fail for injury reasons, but attitude ones. That was the failure...
Interesting, that's not my impression at all. Aside from injury issues, haven't most high round picks become starters as rookies? Michel, Thuney, Brown, Solder, Hightower, McCourty, etc?
Gronkowksi? Easley?I don't think this is the year they gamble on a recently-injured player being healed in time to contribute. Definitely don't see that happening with an early-round pick.
Perhaps, folks are looking at different time frames. You are talking about 0-1 top players in a year.
Others look at the 12 picks and see only 1-3 rookie contributors.
Now I'm just quoting the "reports" here. Simmons, prior to his injury, was slated to likely be a top 8 pick. That is the kind of player that Pats NEVER get a shot at....except if there is "an issue".
IF Simmons was still there at #32, I'd JUMP at the chance to grab him with both feet. He is just what every team needs and are looking for - an explosive player in the interior of the defense. More than most the Pats are in a situation where they can be patient with their pick. And while there is a CHANCE he'd be ready for the start of the season, I'd be very comfortable with him starting on the PUP and coming back to play even as late as game 10.
Players taken in the 32 range are guys who are GOOD players. Guys who likely will be starters and "contributors" (much like Malcolm Brown was) but NOT likely to be all pro's or impact players. Of course there are exceptions that prove the rule from all over the draft, but by and large the so call "elite" players are gone each year in the top 10...if that.
So IF the Pats believe Simmons really is a top 8 player who falls to them because of an injury, it would be a risk well worth taking, especially since it seems that he wouldn't be missing the entire 2019 season
fair enoughI think this is getting a bit out of context--the conversation in which I said that was specifically about pick #32. (As, for that matter, is this entire thread.) The whole nature of the draft naturally changes in many ways as you move through the rounds.