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Clots are REALLY trying to sell this trade up.
The best thing about this is that the Colts traded the WR they stupidly picked over Malcom Brown allowing him to fall to the Pats.
Except the pats take best player available not for need.
Bill has said it a million times
Of course I Don't, particularly in our offense. But Hogan is primarily an intermediate and deep route specialist. And that shouldn't change. He is not a get-open-quick guy. I mistakenly said that he shouldn't line up inside, in my mind I was arguing that he will not be working underneath routes all of a sudden and trying to fill the edelman/slot role.Do you really think that WRs do the same thing on every play?
Hogan can play a lot in the slot and also run deep routes outside. On average he may get a deep ball once a game, maybe less. Edelman probably got almost as many deep balls as hogan last year.
You can also get open deep from the slot.
Which he clearly had Brown higher on the draft board that Collins.
I'm not educated enough on Dorsett to say what routes he doesn't/does run well.fair enough, the routes are more important than where each guy is lined up initially. My guess/hope would be that, if Dorsett earns a meaningful role in the offense, it would be him working the underneath stuff. Based on my limited knowledge, I think he has the greater short area quickness to be successful there while Hogan really is built as a more vertical player.
Julian converts back to QB! This tells me that JB was in danger of being cut, I don't get it but it speaks to the Pats mindset.Wait, what the f***? Beyond the trade itself, this means the team has no third QB and their second string QB is a free agent next year. If Jimmy is gone then who the hell backs up TB12? Makes me think that they are either planning on extending him somehow.
There is no reason he can't run those routes. He has. He won't step into edelmans shoes but he could.Of course I Don't, particularly in our offense. But Hogan is primarily an intermediate and deep route specialist. And that shouldn't change. He is not a get-open-quick guy. I mistakenly said that he shouldn't line up inside, in my mind I was arguing that he will not be working underneath routes all of a sudden and trying to fill the edelman/slot role.
This has been posted before, but I'll post it AGAIN. From the 2015 predraft NFL.com scouting profile:To all the Dorsett haters out there; he was generally given a third round grade in the draft. Obviously, the Colts overdrafted him in the first round (what else is new). So, to be fair we can't rightfully call him a bust...yet. I am by no means sold on the acquisition (picking up playbook, chemistry with the Goat etc), but I am sold on his talent.
We shall see.
I saw some asking about Tavon Austin, Dorsett is more or less a clone of him at a fraction of the cost.
With Amendola, Edelman, and even Hogan to a lesser extent, getting up there in age the Patriots needed to replenish the WR cupboard either way. Getting Mitchell, Cooks and Dorsett does this.
From an impact standpoint, I doubt Dorsett produces much this year at all to be honest, other than on very simplified routes to get him the ball in space and so forth. His biggest impact probably starts after he's had time in the system to learn the playbook and gain Brady's trust. He's got along way to go.
I was going to comment on it as well. Brown is very solid. Collins came out of college a FS and we already had an elite Safety in Dmac. Why draft him?
We had the best D in the league last year.