Patriots Have Called on Jeudy

[upstater1]

I'd rather spend a first-round pick on a receiver than a trade, if they want a second and next year's third, maybe. This year's draft is going to be interesting, that's for sure.

I wouldn't trade our first for Jeudy. BUT I bet Jeudy is better than any receiver in this draft.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

I wouldn't trade our first for Jeudy. BUT I bet Jeudy is better than any receiver in this draft.

Our second and one of the fourts for jeudy I would do it
Jeudy and mac played together did they I am not sure
But if so , then i assume they have some connection and jeudy is a guy who can complement our Wr Corp as a good route runner
Use the other picks in combination of trade of draft picks for a big corner and OT and I think we are in the playoffs

 

[Toofy]

Our second and one of the fourts for jeudy I would do it
Jeudy and mac played together did they I am not sure
But if so , then i assume they have some connection and jeudy is a guy who can complement our Wr Corp as a good route runner
Use the other picks in combination of trade of draft picks for a big corner and OT and I think we are in the playoffs

3rd + 4th and Parker for Jeudy . they get one WR at similar contract . two additional picks .

i doubt they are going to pick jeudy's 5th year option . that will make him untradeable.

we need our 14 and 46 for a CB and offensive lineman.

 

[50-yard-line]

I wouldn't trade our first for Jeudy. BUT I bet Jeudy is better than any receiver in this draft.

Are there so many really good CBs in this draft because the WRs are mediocre? Or are the WRs looking mediocre because of so many good CBs?

Likely a combination of both.
But I agree with your premise here, although I'm not sure how good Jeudy really is. There are no WRs in this draft that excite me at pick 14.


Johnston needs a really good deep ball thrower (not Mac) and I see his hands being questioned as is his consistency.


JSN might become something special, but the listed weaknesses (rolling into breaks) will mean little separation at the NFL level, which is everything for a slot receiver. Plus, he's a SLOT receiver, an ankle breaker if he develops properly. That doesn't scream 1st Round to me.


I like Addison a lot - but he looks more like a late-2nd/3rd rounder to me compared to the guys who we've seen come out the last couple of years.
Not going to beat a dead horse here, but 2019 was the year to get the real blue chip receivers. It's unbelievable how good and deep that class was, with, weirdly, the exception of the first two off the board. I just don't see a high 1st rounder out there, watching the highlights, reading the scouting reports, etc. Maybe BCG will school me here, but...

 

[upstater1]

Are there so many really good CBs in this draft because the WRs are mediocre? Or are the WRs looking mediocre because of so many good CBs?

Likely a combination of both.
But I agree with your premise here, although I'm not sure how good Jeudy really is. There are no WRs in this draft that excite me at pick 14.


Johnston needs a really good deep ball thrower (not Mac) and I see his hands being questioned as is his consistency.


JSN might become something special, but the listed weaknesses (rolling into breaks) will mean little separation at the NFL level, which is everything for a slot receiver. Plus, he's a SLOT receiver, an ankle breaker if he develops properly. That doesn't scream 1st Round to me.


I like Addison a lot - but he looks more like a late-2nd/3rd rounder to me compared to the guys who we've seen come out the last couple of years.
Not going to beat a dead horse here, but 2019 was the year to get the real blue chip receivers. It's unbelievable how good and deep that class was, with, weirdly, the exception of the first two off the board. I just don't see a high 1st rounder out there, watching the highlights, reading the scouting reports, etc. Maybe BCG will school me here, but...

It's their measurables. Small in stature and/or speed. That's why I give the WRs lower grades. They could end up being great like Stefon Diggs, that's who they look like. But Diggs went in the 4th round. For every Diggs, there are 10 just like him who didn't make it.

I don't think we can make a CB and WR comparison because few of these guys ever went against each other. Maybe Witherspoon and Porter against JSN. Maybe Gonzalez against Addison.

 

[upstater1]

We all know our track record when it comes to picking WR's in the draft and I am not sure that will change unless Bill decides to leave the drafting completely up to Bob . I would rather they get a true 1WR in free agency of through a trade, someone that is a known commodity !

The track record is really just 1 pick spent on a WR in the 1st 3 rounds between 2010 and Harry. Dobson was the only guy they picked. You can't do that. You spend one premium pick on a WR over a decade.

 

[Real fan 02]

What's sad is Bourne is still an unknown after the chaos of the offense the last 2 years.
He is full of potential though, and despite Matty P's doghouse, he seems to be a very likable locker room guy who wants to buy in.

Another good sign, is Parker's quick chemistry that developed with Mac in short time gives me hope that Mac will be able to get the most out of JuJu - who may be super motivated to prove he can be a #1WR (since failing in PIT after AB left)

I'd say Bourne is a known commodity he showed what he can be under Josh.. he was phased out the offense due to his beef with Patricia..

I guess when the students knows more than the teachers huh... Bourne needs to be in this offense no matter who else we get.. he's a high energy guy, he energizes the crowd and has a great relationship with Mac.. you want to as an organization always try to keep those guys.. plus his contract is cheap..

I see bounce back seasons for he and Mack alike

 

[Nikolai]

I'd say Bourne is a known commodity he showed what he can be under Josh.. he was phased out the offense due to his beef with Patricia..

I guess when the students knows more than the teachers huh... Bourne needs to be in this offense no matter who else we get.. he's a high energy guy, he energizes the crowd and has a great relationship with Mac.. you want to as an organization always try to keep those guys.. plus his contract is cheap..

I see bounce back seasons for he and Mack alike

Pretty much exactly the same read I've got on him. His playmaking abilities, when given a chance and used properly, can, and once did, change the tone of a drive. We need more of that.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

they should do it. our 1st round picks seldom pans out anyway

 

[RIpats88]

Bourne was a playmaker in 2021 and whenever he was "allowed" by bozo Patricia on the field last year. I'd say he's a known commodity

In today's NFL if you don't have elite receivers you arent going anywhere

 

[Real fan 02]

Pretty much exactly the same read I've got on him. His playmaking abilities, when given a chance and used properly, can, and once did, change the tone of a drive. We need more of that.

Yes, look at the big play on the sideline in Miami.. the offense was stagnant that entire day save for the first drive.. he comes in and makes a huge play..

I hope there is a plan to keep him.. I really like KB and his game.. he can do a bit of everything..

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

It's there measurables. Small in stature and/or speed. That's why I give the WRs lower grades. They could end up being great like Stefon Diggs, that's who they look like. But Diggs went in the 4th round. For every Diggs, there are 10 just like him who didn't make it.

I don't think we can make a CB and WR comparison because few of these guys ever went against each other. Maybe Witherspoon and Porter against JSN. Maybe Gonzalez against Addison.

I agree.
From what I see. Which is just some Schmucko from his recliner.
At pick #14 only. I don’t like any of the recievers.
I like 2 OT (Skoronski and Paris Johnson) I like others in 1st but with a trade down. I think you can get a good one in the 2nd round
CB’s I like (Witherspoon, Porter and Gonzalez) I also think you can get a good one in 2nd.
But I love Darnell Washington TE in 2nd but pretty sure he’ll be way gone by then
Whomever grades highest in 1st (OT/CB) then other position in 2nd

 

[RIpats88]

The track record is really just 1 pick spent on a WR in the 1st 3 rounds between 2010 and Harry. Dobson was the only guy they picked. You can't do that. You spend one premium pick on a WR over a decade.

Yeah bill doesn't value offense that much. That's why he left Brady with scraps and arrogantly thought Patricia and Judge could coach offense because it's so easy!

But that's not how the league is trending. What's so dissapointing about that draft is that Bill ignored his scouts on Harry and drafted the ONLY receiver who couldn't plan....imagine if we got aj brown or deebo or DK metcalf

 

[50-yard-line]

they should do it. our 1st round picks seldom pans out anyway

Picking in the top 15 isn't the same as picking in the last 10 of that round. Many, many players picked 25-32 aren't game-changers.
Top 15 picks usually put one or two very elite players at several different positions. Sometimes risky (QB), sometimes pretty sure thing (DT, OL).

 

[Love The Drake]

Picking in the top 15 isn't the same as picking in the last 10 of that round. Many, many players picked 25-32 aren't game-changers.
Top 15 picks usually put one or two very elite players at several different positions. Sometimes risky (QB), sometimes pretty sure thing (DT, OL).

I would be hard pressed to part with 14 I would have to see who was on the board or get a second back with that.

 

[captain stone]

According to most of patsfans we're the worst team in the afce so should have no problem scoring #14 next year too...

Or, if our QB is who I fear he is, even higher...

 

[ahmed]

I'd rather spend a first-round pick on a receiver than a trade, if they want a second and next year's third, maybe. This year's draft is going to be interesting, that's for sure.

I don't understand why any Pats fan would be under any illusion that we could succeed picking a WR high.

I would trust any of our scouts here over the Pats for that.

 

[Zuma]

I don't understand why any Pats fan would be under any illusion that we could succeed picking a WR high.

I would trust any of our scouts here over the Pats for that.

IMO the last 2 drafts were ok with more input from Wolfe and Groh. I still prefer to wait till 3rd round and beyond for a WR though.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't understand why any Pats fan would be under any illusion that we could succeed picking a WR high.

I would trust any of our scouts here over the Pats for that.

Lol, from what Curran was saying... the biggest issues were the patriots would send draft scouts to specifically pick WRs during the Brady era and BB reportedly would ignore the scouts... that prompted the collaborative effort approach

 

[upstater1]

they should do it. our 1st round picks seldom pans out anyway

The Patriots are one of the best 1st round drafters in the NFL.

It's what they excel at. 2nd round is a different story.

HITS:
Richard Seymour
Daniel Graham
Ty Warren
Vince Wilfork
Ben Watson
Logan Mankins
Jerod Mayo
Devin McCourty
Nate Solder
Chandler Jones
Donte Hightower

MID:
Brandon Meriweather
Malcolm Brown (32)
Sony Michel (31)

BUSTS:
Laurence Maroney (29)
Dominique Easley (32)
N'Keal Harry (32)
Isaiah Wynn

This is one of the best records in the NFL.

Compare it to the Bills over the same period (and realize the Bills were always picking in the top half of the draft while the Patriots frequently picked in the last 4):

HITS:
Nate Clements
Lee Evans
Marshawn Lynch
Eric Wood
Stephon Gilmore
Tre White
Josh Allen

MID:
Willis McGahee (An ACL injury bust for the Bills, he left Buffalo & resurrected his career)
Donte Whitner (8)
Marcell Dareus (3rd overall)

BUSTS:
Erik Flowers
Leodis McKelvin
Mike Williams (4)
JP Losman
John McCargo
Aaron Maybin
CJ Spiller (8)
EJ Manuel
Sammy Watkins (traded 2 #1s to pick him)
Shaq Lawson