BritPat
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Oh, and Vollmer is your RT.
upstater you are an old goat you remember Ron Wooten?I understand. I feel similarly. But guard is not really a stellar position for us. Shelby Jordan. Sam Adams. Stephen Neal. Ron Wooten. Shaq Mason. See the problem?
Hopefully one of Mike Onwenu, Cole Strange, Sidy Sow or Atonio Mafi displace Mankins as the 2nd best Patriots guard.
1985 baby - Holloway-Hannah-Brock-Wooten-Mooreupstater you are an old goat you remember Ron Wooten?
Chevy you are another old goat Big House Moore.1985 baby - Holloway-Hannah-Brock-Wooten-Moore
For good reasons.I'm not seeing Eugene Chung or Katzenmoyer on that list.
Why are you on my TV?!?!Chevy you are another old goat Big House Moore.
Katz - he showed a lot of promise that year (was also the first rookie to start at MLB for the Pats since Steve Nelson). Shame that neck injury cut it all short.For good reasons.
No, Faulk had the first down but he juggled the ball and didn't gain control until back across the down marker. HE BOBBLED THE BALL!!!!Faulk MADE the first down on 4th and 2..that call was a judgement on the spot by a ref working in Indy...I saw a study done by an MIT grad using lasers. Faulk was a good 2 feet over the LOS. I remember Faulk was a wash his first two seasons....fumbled the ball way too much. He MADE himself into the dependable all purpose back so important to Patriot success during that period. I bristle every time I see someone reference the 4th and 2 play in Indy. You people have to understand....the league changed the rules FOUR seasons in a row with Polian heading the competition committee. That year we played in Indy.,..if the ref makes the CORRECT call...game over. That's when I first realized there was something rotten in Goodell-mark.
Just one more reason I despise that ginger moron. A blurb from Bleacher Report post game in 2009..
Looking at NBC's replays of the decisive 4th and 2 call in the Colts 35-34 victory over New England in Indianapolis, it was clear that Kevin Faulk did indeed have possession of the ball in front of the first down marker. Faulk's completion would have sealed a win for the Patriots.
While Faulk did bobble the football initially, he quickly recovered to firmly wrap two hands around the ball prior to his forward progress being stopped by the Colts defender, which was slightly ahead of NBC's yellow first down line.
The replay also showed that the official who made the call had an awful vantage point, and saw more of Faulk's back than so-called bobbled football. It's disapointing that both Al Michaels and Cris Collinsworth, who is usually an outstanding analyst, failed to point this out.
you're a blind bat moron...click the link, it goes to the youtube videoNo, Faulk had the first down but he juggled the ball and didn't gain control until back across the down marker. HE BOBBLED THE BALL!!!!
I would take that line right now... but they all weigh probably 50 pounds less than the guy across from them1985 baby - Holloway-Hannah-Brock-Wooten-Moore
Surprisingly, not undersized by all that much:I would take that line right now... but they all weigh probably 50 pounds less than the guy across from them
Why Jim?Hard to argue with most of it.
I'd take Jim Nance over Sam Bam.