OT: Revis wants 20M per year...

[Ruby2]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

So you are saying that in over 75 years in the NFL 2 of the 5 best seasons ever by a corner were last year? I mean, because Charles Woodson was the DPOY so he was at least top 4 by your count right?

Charles Woodson got the award as a "lifetime acheeivement" award.

Revis had an historic year last year. One of the best by a corner ever.

 

[ausbacker]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

Charles Woodson got the award as a "lifetime acheeivement" award.

Revis had an historic year last year. One of the best by a corner ever.

This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on a internet forum.

 

[eom]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

This is one of the stupidest posts I've ever read on a internet forum.

agreement or disagreement aside, australia must get a much higher quality of internet than we get up here.....

 

[Ring 6]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

Charles Woodson got the award as a "lifetime acheeivement" award.

Revis had an historic year last year. One of the best by a corner ever.

Oh boy. I heard he cured cancer too, but they want to keep that hidden so they can give credit to someone else.

 

[Frezo]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

Oh boy. I heard he cured cancer too, but they want to keep that hidden so they can give credit to someone else.

With Cromartie as a teammate he'll have to do it again.

 

[Ruby2]

You guys laughing at me really think Woodson was a better defensive player than Revis last year?

That is some funny stuff right there.

 

[Frezo]

You guys laughing at me really think Woodson was a better defensive player than Revis last year?

That is some funny stuff right there.

There's a good case made for both of them here.
Best cornerback in the NFL? You can make a strong case for Darrelle Revis or Charles Woodson

 

[ausbacker]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

agreement or disagreement aside, australia must get a much higher quality of internet than we get up here.....

Surprisingly not mate. There's no substitute for internet stupidity worldwide I've found! I'm not sure if it's the anonymity of posting from home but the size of one's bollocks are appreciably larger on forums then in real life across all walks of life I have found.

Stupid in one country is the same as stupid in another unfortunately.

 

[ausbacker]

You guys laughing at me really think Woodson was a better defensive player than Revis last year?

That is some funny stuff right there.

Yes and I'm laughing at Charles Woodson receiving the award for a years worth of performance based on a lifetime of achievement in your words.

I sure am looking forward to Grant Hill being awarded the NBA MVP next season.

 

[Kontradiction]

My problem is not what Revis has done last year which was pretty amazing. My problem is the myths around the guy that were created.

Myth #1: Revis never gets any help. You watch either game against the Pats and there were times Revis clearly gets help over the top with Moss. He needs it less than most CB, but he still gets help.

Myth #2: He is on the primary WR all the time. First, you can argue Welker is the Pats' primary WR and he never covered him. But semantics aside, the Jets do run zone defenses and he wouldn't play man in that scenario especially when I read the Jets send an extra rusher over 67% of the time.

Myth #3: Revis went up against most or a lot of the elite WRs in the game. Not true. The only WRs in the top 10 in yards last year that he went up against were Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, Reggie Wayne (for half a game in the regular season and in the AFC Championship game), and Vincent Jackson (in the playoffs where he had an impressive 7 catches for 111 yards). Guys like Roddy White (13th), Marques Colston (18th), Chad OchoCinco (19th), Steve Smith (25th), and TO (33rd) may have been elite players for many years prior to 2009; but in 2009 they were either slight above average, average, or in TO's and Steve Smith's case pretty mediocre. Shutting down the #1 WR receiver on a near week in, week out basis is pretty amazing, but inflating the talent he faced because he faced a lot of big names having down years only cheapens his accomplishment in my book.

I think Revis had a great season last year, but I also have to commend the Jets' spin machine for creating his legend even greater than his accomplishment. They successfully got the mediots to blast a guy like TO for being a major bust signing for the Bills one minute and calling him an elite WR the next minute when Revis shuts him down. I personally think that might be as impressive as Revis' accomplishments.

Just a nitpick, but you shouldn't credit Jackson's performance to Revis. See my Wikipedia link. The Chargers game was the only game last season in which Revis covered more than one WR.

 

[patsfan-1982]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

Charles Woodson got the award as a "lifetime acheeivement" award.

Revis had an historic year last year. One of the best by a corner ever.

historic ?

Lester Hayes, in 1980 13 INT's


Night Train Lane in 1952 he's still record 14 INT's


Deion Sanders, in 1994 with 6 INT's for over 300 yerds avg over 50 yerds per returen.



dose are some historic years Revis, had a great year but not historic

 

[Rob0729]

Just a nitpick, but you shouldn't credit Jackson's performance to Revis. See my Wikipedia link. The Chargers game was the only game last season in which Revis covered more than one WR.

First, Wikipedia should never be used as a source especially if the information is not cited.

Second, then that is one less elite WR he faced. It bring the total down to three in four and half games last season and the playoffs. Again, it is far less than the eight or nine supposive elite WRs he faced last year. Sorry, but Steve Smith was not an elite WR (actually he was, but that elite WR played for the Giants). Neither was T.O., Chad OchoCinco, Roddy White, or Marques Colston.

Again, no matter how you look at it, the media and fans have spun an incredible performance last year into some mythical legendy performance. It takes a lot to shut down even mediocre primary WRs week after week, but the competition Revis faced wasn't nearly as impressive as people make it out to be. In fact, overall it was pretty average with a few exceptions.

 

[eom]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

historic ?

Lester Hayes, in 1980 13 INT's


Night Train Lane in 1952 he's still record 14 INT's


Deion Sanders, in 1994 with 6 INT's for over 300 yerds avg over 50 yerds per returen.



dose are some historic years Revis, had a great year but not historic

I think he's talking about a historic year, not a historic 13 plays.

 

[Rob0729]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

I think he's talking about a historic year, not a historic 13 plays.

It wasn't a historic year either way. It was a great year, but it wasn't historic. If it was truly historic, he would have walked away with the DPOY. He didn't break any records. He played mostly against average competition. The Jets didn't break any records either.

Five years from now, people probably won't be talking about his performance this year when the general topic of great single season performances are discussed. In fact, I don't see all that many people talking about it as a historic performance only months after the season ended.

Let's not go overboard. It was a great performance. But was it really historic? Really?!?

 

[eom]

re: vincent jackson

revis covered him about half the passing snaps (~25) --- jackson was thrown at something like twice for 0 completions and a pick.

 

[eom]

Re: OT: Revis wants 20M per year....

It wasn't a historic year either way. It was a great year, but it wasn't historic. If it was truly historic, he would have walked away with the DPOY. He didn't break any records. He played mostly against average competition. The Jets didn't break any records either.

Five years from now, people probably won't be talking about his performance this year when the general topic of great single season performances are discussed.

and I think we see why that is from that earlier post that I just replied to.

 

[Kontradiction]

First, Wikipedia should never be used as a source especially if the information is not cited.

Second, then that is one less elite WR he faced. It bring the total down to three in four and half games last season and the playoffs. Again, it is far less than the eight or nine supposive elite WRs he faced last year. Sorry, but Steve Smith was not an elite WR (actually he was, but that elite WR played for the Giants). Neither was T.O., Chad OchoCinco, Roddy White, or Marques Colston.

Again, no matter how you look at it, the media and fans have spun an incredible performance last year into some mythical legendy performance. It takes a lot to shut down even mediocre primary WRs week after week, but the competition Revis faced wasn't nearly as impressive as people make it out to be. In fact, overall it was pretty average with a few exceptions.

The single largest wealth of information known to the world should not be used as a source? LMFAO.

I never used to playoffs as a barometer in this argument until the fact that he shut down Reggie Wayne was being discounted.

 

[ausbacker]

The single largest wealth of information known to the world should not be used as a source? LMFAO.

I never used to playoffs as a barometer in this argument until the fact that he shut down Reggie Wayne was being discounted.

Bull**** it is. You should see my Encyclopedia Britannica collection. It pisses all over Wikipedia .

 

[Rob0729]

The single largest wealth of information known to the world should not be used as a source? LMFAO.

You got that wrong. The correct way to describe Wikipedia is:

The single largest wealth of information known to the world that anyone can edit and put information no matter how wrong it is. Wikipedia is a breathing document and relies on the users to provide information. The users could have wrong information or just make crap up.

I could go on Wikipedia right now and go to the Megan Fox page and edit it to say that she is engaged to me.

The information on Revis could be right, but there is a lot of bad information on Wikipedia. They do have moderators for each secti9on that tries to go in and edit bad information from the site, but something like that may not be found if it is wrong.

I never used to playoffs as a barometer in this argument until the fact that he shut down Reggie Wayne was being discounted.

Personally, I think playoffs should be counted in the overall body of work. I discount if the playoff performances are different than performance in the regular season, but not if it is continuation what the player did in the regular season. That is why I am not as impressed with Shonn Greene as you are.

 

[averywhitehall]

Geez you guys have Jets on the brain huh? When you guys were winning Superbowls there were never 20 page threads for one Jets player.

Shonne Greene averaged 5 yards per carry in the regular season. He just didn't get as many reps as Thomas Jones. What are you not impressed about?