OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Honestlly I have kind of mixed feeling on this. I like Fournette, and he's been great, but I also like the way they've used running backs when he's been out. They've been mixing in the smaller, quicker guys like Vaughn on handoffs...they've used RBs in the passing game frequently. I hope they continue to rotate these guys in along with Fournette. I don't know how much of an upgrade Bernard is over Vaughn or Bell. He's more reliable than Vaughn but not as athletic (at his age), and he's maybe just a little better than Bell but is a big injury risk.

Bucs designate Leonard Fournette, Lavonte David, Giovani Bernard to return from IR

The Buccaneers are getting healthier as the postseason begins this week, with a few key players returning to practice.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[venecol]

But Bucs also struggled against non-playoff teams. They lost 3 to non-playoff teams and recently struggled against the Jets and Panthers for a half. They really need a fast start against the WFT.

They're playing the Eagles, a playoff team not WFT.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

They're playing the Eagles, a playoff team not WFT.

Yep, and they got their asses kicked in the second half against the Eagles in the first meeting. People may dismiss that as taking their foot off the gas or playing a soft zone, but that's what they said about the Bucs-Chiefs regular season matchup last year too. This game is far from a gimmie, although the Bucs do seem to own mobile QBs.

 

[Guts]

Honestlly I have kind of mixed feeling on this. I like Fournette, and he's been great, but I also like the way they've used running backs when he's been out. They've been mixing in the smaller, quicker guys like Vaughn on handoffs...they've used RBs in the passing game frequently. I hope they continue to rotate these guys in along with Fournette. I don't know how much of an upgrade Bernard is over Vaughn or Bell. He's more reliable than Vaughn but not as athletic (at his age), and he's maybe just a little better than Bell but is a big injury risk.

Bucs designate Leonard Fournette, Lavonte David, Giovani Bernard to return from IR

The Buccaneers are getting healthier as the postseason begins this week, with a few key players returning to practice.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Fournette can be utilized in the no huddle though. He gives them that element instead of subbing in and out

 

[Guts]

Yep, and they got their asses kicked in the second half against the Eagles in the first meeting. People may dismiss that as taking their foot off the gas or playing a soft zone, but that's what they said about the Bucs-Chiefs regular season matchup last year too. This game is far from a gimmie, although the Bucs do seem to own mobile QBs.

Bucs will definitely need David and Barrett back for this game. Barrett sets the edge pretty well that's where the Bucs have been getting attacked lately in the running game. It will be a closer game than a lot of people think, but ultimate they win Brady is patient enough to attack the zone scheme the Eagles love to run on defense. A big tight end game the Eagles allow the most receptions and YPA vs Tight Ends from all the playoff teams.

 

[venecol]

But Bucs also struggled against non-playoff teams. They lost 3 to non-playoff teams and recently struggled against the Jets and Panthers for a half. They really need a fast start against the WFT.

Also, 3 of their 4 losses were on the road. They're a different team at home. That's why the #2 seed was so important. If GB falls in the divisional, NFCCG goes through Tampa (if they win divisional).

 

[Guts]

LOL. AB trying to get signed. I think he has realized that pissing all over the GOAT has made his suitors zero.

Antonio Brown says removing jersey and pads during his abrupt exit 'probably wasn't necessary'

Ex-Buccaneers receiver Antonio Brown, who stripped his jersey and pads before leaving the field in Week 17, said that probably wasn't professional.

sports.yahoo.com

My man is busy making rap albums.

 

[Tottie]

Yep, and they got their asses kicked in the second half against the Eagles in the first meeting. People may dismiss that as taking their foot off the gas or playing a soft zone, but that's what they said about the Bucs-Chiefs regular season matchup last year too. This game is far from a gimmie, although the Bucs do seem to own mobile QBs.

Hopefully playing Hurts can give White something to do instead of running around in circles all game. It will be interesting to see if they put White on Hurts should David play. I agree on the RBs too and I think Vaughn is slowly earning trust. I think I still prefer Lenny though assuming he gets back to where he was.

 

[RicoG]

Honestlly I have kind of mixed feeling on this. I like Fournette, and he's been great, but I also like the way they've used running backs when he's been out. They've been mixing in the smaller, quicker guys like Vaughn on handoffs...they've used RBs in the passing game frequently. I hope they continue to rotate these guys in along with Fournette. I don't know how much of an upgrade Bernard is over Vaughn or Bell. He's more reliable than Vaughn but not as athletic (at his age), and he's maybe just a little better than Bell but is a big injury risk.

Bucs designate Leonard Fournette, Lavonte David, Giovani Bernard to return from IR

The Buccaneers are getting healthier as the postseason begins this week, with a few key players returning to practice.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Fournette was playing like playoff Lenny a few games after the season started to when the Saints decided that Godwin wasn't enough and took him out too. His play and his stats were top 3 or top 5 in the league. If he comes back as playoff Lenny, he will be one of the key pieces for a successful run to the SB.

 

[skinnydog]

Fournette can be utilized in the no huddle though. He gives them that element instead of subbing in and out

I do like the fact that

I agree, 100%. But, since getting established, OJB's been poison for his QBs in his first two stops.

Agree, but I think Brady is different.

 

[VectorPrime]

The regular season Eagles game was Thursday Night on the road. Means almost nothing.

 

[RicoG]

Rank	Player	Yds	Years	Tm
52	Wes Welker	9,924	2004-2015	5TM
56	T.Y. Hilton	9,691	2012-2021	clt
57	Amani Toomer	9,497	1996-2008	nyg
58	Rob Moore	9,368	1990-1999	2TM
59	Mike Evans	9,301	2014-2021	tam
60	Rob Gronkowski	9,286	2010-2021	2TM
61	Raymond Berry+	9,275	1955-1967	clt
62	Emmanuel Sanders	9,245	2010-2021	5TM
68	Travis Kelce	9,006	2013-2021	kan

With 137 yards Gronk jumped from 65 to 60.
Evans jumped to 59 with his 80 yards.
Getting closer to our buddy Welker and staying.ahead of Kelce. That guy never misses a game.

 

[Guts]

Looks like a rainy game with wind gusts for Sundayb

 

[RicoG]

Rank	Player	TD	Years	Tm
36	Dez Bryant	75	2010-2020	2TM
	Mike Evans	75	2014-2021	tam
	James Lofton+	75	1978-1993	5TM
39	Torry Holt	74	1999-2009	2TM
	Nat Moore	74	1974-1986	mia
	Jason Witten	74	2003-2020	2TM
42	Davante Adams	73	2014-2021	gnb

Evans is really move.up fast the all time TD list. He's back in from of Adams.

 

[Guts]

Rank	Player	TD	Years	Tm
36	Dez Bryant	75	2010-2020	2TM
	Mike Evans	75	2014-2021	tam
	James Lofton+	75	1978-1993	5TM
39	Torry Holt	74	1999-2009	2TM
	Nat Moore	74	1974-1986	mia
	Jason Witten	74	2003-2020	2TM
42	Davante Adams	73	2014-2021	gnb

Evans is really move.up fast the all time TD list. He's back in from of Adams.

Evans really under-rated

 

[Deus Irae]

Bucs coach Bruce Arians said today that wide receiver Cyril Grayson and running back Ronald Jones are both considered doubtful for Sunday.

The Bucs only did a walk-through practice today, but if they had conducted a full practice, Arians said everyone except Grayson, Jones and outside linebacker Anthony Nelson would have been healthy enough to participate. Arians is optimistic that Nelson, who has an ankle injury, will play on Sunday.

Buccaneers' Cyril Grayson, Ronald Jones unlikely to play Sunday vs. Eagles - ProFootballTalk

 

[Deus Irae]

LB Lavonte David, LB Shaquil Barrett (knee brace) RBs Leonard Fournette and Giovani Bernard began their 21-day practice period and can be activated any time off IR. Didn’t see David or JPP. WR Justin Watson, CB Jamel Dean are here.

 

[Deus Irae]

Rob Gronkowski says the Eagles have a great front four and the secondary works together well. They play it safe and don't allow the big play downfield. "They make you earn it, no doubt about it,'' Gronkowski said.

 

[Deus Irae]

Rob Gronkowski on meeting with Tom Brady during the week as position groups before games: "Every once in a while, once or twice a week, Tom gets together with the skill players or the offensive line to make sure everybody pays attention to the details..''

Mike Evans on how Tom Brady prepares in the postseason: "He's the greatest football mind we've ever seen...'' Says they saw it in the regular season and just a little bit heightened in the post-season.

"It helps a lot. He's so detailed and he knows what's coming a lot of the time and it allows us to play much faster,'' Mike Evans on Tom Brady's experience.

 

[Deus Irae]

With the regular season over, here's a good way to visualize how well each NFL team is set up for the offseason. Using the Fitzgerald-Spielberger draft value chart, we can quantify how much draft capital each team has, as well as their effective cap space entering free agency