OT: Celtics / Sixers - Series

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

But the injury was three years ago. and this slump he has been in is since the all-star break this year. He has overall been a better shooter over the 3 years after the leg injury, just not the past couple of months.

His injury was horrific and his recovery from it was pretty amazing.

Make no mistake, I don't care much for the guy and I think that it's clear that the Pacers made off like bandits in getting Oladipo and Sabonis for a one year rental of PG13.

 

[TinhWoodhead]

It would be nice, but actually they don't.

dont want another game 7

 

[Jackson 2]

dont want another game 7

I love 'em!

 

[Froob]

George said himself that he needed to fix his jumper.

Paul George says he’s having ‘mechanical issues’ with his jump shot

Lol people wanted us to give up the picks for Jaylen, Tatum and Kyrie for this guy.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

What if Cleveland gets a top 5 pick? Any chance lebroni stays in Cleveland?

 

[Kontradiction]

What if Cleveland gets a top 5 pick? Any chance lebroni stays in Cleveland?

Then we can prove that the lottery is rigged.

 

[Froob]

What if Cleveland gets a top 5 pick? Any chance lebroni stays in Cleveland?

It’ll be one again...supposedly Cleveland is still very much in the mix. The situations in Philly and LA with the Lakers are very appetizing though. And Jerry West heading the Clippers is a wild card, he’s a genius. Don’t rule out anything with him and tons of cap room.

 

[Hyped]

I am not even penciling Cleveland in for the ECF just yet. Yes, it looks BAD for Toronto...but that team is very deep and likely will split two in Cleveland...come back home down 3-1...win one...and set up a crucial game 6 that will decide the series. No way do the Cavs win a game 7 with Drake on the sidelines and LeBron playing 280+ minutes this series, IMO.

Also, the Celts are 0-3 on the road with one "near win" in game 4 vs. Milwaukee when Morris missed a shot he makes 9/10 times. The Philly crowd will be into it...and Simmons will be driving to the basket harder, Saric/Covington/Beinelli will be hitting threes, Embiid won't be in foul trouble, and Redick will be cleanly running around harder screens. We likely will be down 10-12 points and play from behind all games in Philly. We JUST NEED A SPLIT in Philly...if we do that...this is going 7 at worst. If we drop both....the series will come down to game 5, IMO. Philly can easily win 4 in a row....

 

[Jackson 2]

What if Cleveland gets a top 5 pick? Any chance lebroni stays in Cleveland?

If the league lets ESPN handle the draft, Cleveland will get all 5 top picks.

 

[IcyPatriot]

I can see the Lakers grabbing pick 2 or 3 in the draft and Ainge with a huge ****ty grin on his face.

Heads would explode ...

 

[VectorPrime]

I still don’t know why Lebron would go to the Lakers. The team sucks, even if both he and Paul George go they’ll still be the 3rd team in the West. They’d have to get another big piece like Kwahi.

 

[Kdo5]

I am not even penciling Cleveland in for the ECF just yet. Yes, it looks BAD for Toronto...but that team is very deep and likely will split two in Cleveland...come back home down 3-1...win one...and set up a crucial game 6 that will decide the series. No way do the Cavs win a game 7 with Drake on the sidelines and LeBron playing 280+ minutes this series, IMO.

Also, the Celts are 0-3 on the road with one "near win" in game 4 vs. Milwaukee when Morris missed a shot he makes 9/10 times. The Philly crowd will be into it...and Simmons will be driving to the basket harder, Saric/Covington/Beinelli will be hitting threes, Embiid won't be in foul trouble, and Redick will be cleanly running around harder screens. We likely will be down 10-12 points and play from behind all games in Philly. We JUST NEED A SPLIT in Philly...if we do that...this is going 7 at worst. If we drop both....the series will come down to game 5, IMO. Philly can easily win 4 in a row....

1. Cleveland is going to win this series. It's not in the Raptors DNA to pull off two straight wins in Cleveland after such demoralizing games at home. Lebron is unbelievable and will carry them to the ECF.

2. The Celtics series is not over but you really think the 76ers can rip off four in a row? I grant you they might win two straight in Philly if they get their crap together. But at best Philly wins in 7. I've got the Celtics winning this series in 6.

Until Simmons can start consistently hitting their jumpers, the Celtics seem to have an answer for him. Also the 76ers, including Embiid, are seriously struggling defensively against guys like Rozier and Tatum. The Bucks crushed us in a couple of games defensively but I don't yet see that from the 76ers.

By no means am I ruling out the 76ers coming back to win the series but the Celtics are a very tough team to take out and the 76ers are overhyped.

Celtics in 6.

 

[dafoe2016]

Y'all go on and on about Davis. Top three, and yet after all these years, he still gets barely a sniff of the playoffs. It wasn't until they unleashed playoff Rondo that the Pelicans even were competitive.

Tatum just turned 20 and he also just did something no Cs rookie has done since Larry Bird. Either or both of these guys could grow into superstars. And this team with Kyrie and Gordon healthy is certainly at least competing for a title.

Plus, if you think you're getting Davis for Brown, Horford and a pick, you're delusional.

You are the one that is delusional if you think a healthy Irving and Hayward allow this team to compete with Golden State. They would just take minutes from Tatum and Rozier. Again, I love Tatum, but he is never going to be the best player in the game like AD is. You are overvaluing him because he plays for the Celtics. As fans tend to do.

Secondly, Davis has a couple more years on his contract. He is going nowhere. They only way they would move him is a hypothetical situation where he wants out and demands a trade. In that scenario the Pelicans are getting nowhere near 100 cents on the dollar. It is not "delusional" to think that an All Star, a possible future (very young) All Star and a very high draft pick might be the best offer the Pelicans get. If you pay attention to the NBA you know stars never get traded for anything close to their value.

This team is not winning a title with the current roster. They need more talent. Hayward is a second tier All Star. He is not the savior. He is a good, not great player. Davis would be a massive talent upgrade for this team. If you went into a lab with the goal of creating the perfect basketball player for today's NBA, Anthony Davis is what you would create. The fact that he didn't win before maturing and getting more talent around him proves nothing. It's a team game.

I don't mean to sound condescending or insulting, but I'm not sure you are enough of a fan to understand just how much of an impact AD has on the court. This would be like trading for LeBron in his prime. I'm not saying the Celtics should gut their team to get him. That doesn't help. But they wouldn't have to. No other team is going to. All they have to do is have the best offer. If Brown, Horford and the Sacramento pick gets it done I would do that in a nanosecond. Any GM would.

 

[ausbacker]

You are the one that is delusional if you think a healthy Irving and Hayward allow this team to compete with Golden State. They would just take minutes from Tatum and Rozier. Again, I love Tatum, but he is never going to be the best player in the game like AD is. You are overvaluing him because he plays for the Celtics. As fans tend to do.

Secondly, Davis has a couple more years on his contract. He is going nowhere. They only way they would move him is a hypothetical situation where he wants out and demands a trade. In that scenario the Pelicans are getting nowhere near 100 cents on the dollar. It is not "delusional" to think that an All Star, a possible future (very young) All Star and a very high draft pick might be the best offer the Pelicans get. If you pay attention to the NBA you know stars never get traded for anything close to their value.

This team is not winning a title with the current roster. They need more talent. Hayward is a second tier All Star. He is not the savior. He is a good, not great player. Davis would be a massive talent upgrade for this team. If you went into a lab with the goal of creating the perfect basketball player for today's NBA, Anthony Davis is what you would create. The fact that he didn't win before maturing and getting more talent around him proves nothing. It's a team game.

I don't mean to sound condescending or insulting, but I'm not sure you are enough of a fan to understand just how much of an impact AD has on the court. This would be like trading for LeBron in his prime. I'm not saying the Celtics should gut their team to get him. That doesn't help. But they wouldn't have to. No other team is going to. All they have to do is have the best offer. If Brown, Horford and the Sacramento pick gets it done I would do that in a nanosecond. Any GM would.

Except you are coming across as condescending especially when this transcendent talent is playing in his first NBA Playoffs series and he's only there because it required trading for Mirotic and signing a PG who perfectly compliments the team's style.

You're undervaluing the concept of building a team.

 

[rochrist]

You are the one that is delusional if you think a healthy Irving and Hayward allow this team to compete with Golden State. They would just take minutes from Tatum and Rozier. Again, I love Tatum, but he is never going to be the best player in the game like AD is. You are overvaluing him because he plays for the Celtics. As fans tend to do.

Secondly, Davis has a couple more years on his contract. He is going nowhere. They only way they would move him is a hypothetical situation where he wants out and demands a trade. In that scenario the Pelicans are getting nowhere near 100 cents on the dollar. It is not "delusional" to think that an All Star, a possible future (very young) All Star and a very high draft pick might be the best offer the Pelicans get. If you pay attention to the NBA you know stars never get traded for anything close to their value.

This team is not winning a title with the current roster. They need more talent. Hayward is a second tier All Star. He is not the savior. He is a good, not great player. Davis would be a massive talent upgrade for this team. If you went into a lab with the goal of creating the perfect basketball player for today's NBA, Anthony Davis is what you would create. The fact that he didn't win before maturing and getting more talent around him proves nothing. It's a team game.

I don't mean to sound condescending or insulting, but I'm not sure you are enough of a fan to understand just how much of an impact AD has on the court. This would be like trading for LeBron in his prime. I'm not saying the Celtics should gut their team to get him. That doesn't help. But they wouldn't have to. No other team is going to. All they have to do is have the best offer. If Brown, Horford and the Sacramento pick gets it done I would do that in a nanosecond. Any GM would.

Piss. Off. How many Bill Russell games did you attend at the Garden? I'm williing to bet it was fewer than me.

Thanks but no thanks. I'd rather not trade away the home grown budding superstars for the 'franchise' guy who hasn't managed to elevate his franchise very far at all.

 

[Kdo5]

This team is not winning a title with the current roster. They need more talent. Hayward is a second tier All Star. He is not the savior. He is a good, not great player.

You are wrong on this. The Celtics have a 2-0 lead on what was 'the hottest team in the East' and could very feasibly have a competitive series in the conference finals without Irving and Hayward.

Hell there remains a chance that the Celtics end up in the NBA finals this season without either of them.

Next season you've got an entire starting five who are All-Star caliber or close to it along with great depth and arguably the best coach in basketball.

The idea that they just don't have the horses at full strength is ludicrous.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

You are wrong on this. The Celtics have a 2-0 lead on what was 'the hottest team in the East' and could very feasibly have a competitive series in the conference finals without Irving and Hayward.

Hell there remains a chance that the Celtics end up in the NBA finals this season without either of them.

Next season you've got an entire starting five who are All-Star caliber or close to it along with great depth and arguably the best coach in basketball.

The idea that they just don't have the horses at full strength is ludicrous.

Agreed. I hope they leave everything as it is.

 

[RobertWeathers]

You are wrong on this. The Celtics have a 2-0 lead on what was 'the hottest team in the East' and could very feasibly have a competitive series in the conference finals without Irving and Hayward.

Hell there remains a chance that the Celtics end up in the NBA finals this season without either of them.

Next season you've got an entire starting five who are All-Star caliber or close to it along with great depth and arguably the best coach in basketball.

The idea that they just don't have the horses at full strength is ludicrous.

They need rebounding help.

 

[Kdo5]

They need rebounding help.

Rebounding has not been an issue. It is leaps and bounds better than last year. Yeah they might have a game where a team grabs a frustrating amount of offensive rebo

 

[Deus Irae]

You are wrong on this. The Celtics have a 2-0 lead on what was 'the hottest team in the East' and could very feasibly have a competitive series in the conference finals without Irving and Hayward.

ehh...

The Sixers were beating up on terrible teams during their streak, and the Cavs are Lebron and Love and prayers.