OT: 49ers at Colts

[Dusty]

all i know is, with all this bashing going on, how we only beat a decent team by 4 points, and how untested we are... did you guys forget, you only beat the BILLS... by 1 point earlier this year? I didnt see much hype and controversy over that game.. the almighty pats nearly fell to a horrific team, everyone has a bad game, so what, who cares.. move on... i mean, we could be bashing you guys for losing to the Jets.. who are 3-4.. but, i'll refrain from doing so.

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

The Colts game is definately a good staple of a statement of what we can expect as the regular season dies down,Either we have a contender in NE or a pretender.

If the Colts beat us down badly than pretender looks to fit,If the Colts win by 3 or less or the Pats pull off the victory than contender becomes a reality.

 

[Deus Irae]

Careful, you're agenda is showing. You're becoming like the troll's best friend because that agenda matters to you more.

If people here choose to be stupid enough to belittle a 7-0 start, that's up to them. My 'agenda', as you put it, was to joke about two of the weak teams that have been on the Patriots' schedule this year, since people were belittling the Colts schedule. If you can't handle that, perhaps it's time for you to strap on the 'big boy' pants again.

 

[mystrymaster]

Yeah this Pats team is rough to figure out.

Brady much like Manning last year has struggled but shown flashes of who he really is as a quarterback. I think the two week "rest" will be a good thing for him and his receivers.

I am not concerned with the offensive side of the ball for you guys though it is the defense that I would be concerned about as they lost a ton of experience and that to me was always what I was scared most about. The fact that those guys (Vrabel, Bruschii(sp?), Seymour and Harrison) had just about seen anything that anyone could ever do and could adapt to it. It always seemed like Vrabel had the freedom to break the play if he felt that he could better help somewhere else.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

In the bye week predict the score thread, I picked the 49ers to upset the Colts in a close one. Got it wrong, but the game went very much the way I thought...Gore can cause problems and the SF D is tough when they want to be. I also think Indy took SF for granted and played down to them (as some dropped balls might hint towards).

Does this mean Indy is overrated? Don't bet on it. Of course the Pats can beat them, but it will take a top-notch effort. I'd feel much better if Fred Taylor was healthy as he's the best running threat that would truly open up play-action. I don't think Indy will bite as hard with Maroney and company running the ball, unless BJGE can move the pile reliably.

Regards,
Chris

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Colts game is definately a good staple of a statement of what we can expect as the regular season dies down,Either we have a contender in NE or a pretender.

If the Colts beat us down badly than pretender looks to fit,If the Colts win by 3 or less or the Pats pull off the victory than contender becomes a reality.

Or we could be like in past SB years, lose the reg season game to the quality opponent only to best them in the wintah. That aside, I do regard the Colts game as a good measuring stick. So's the NO game.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

all i know is, with all this bashing going on, how we only beat a decent team by 4 points, and how untested we are... did you guys forget, you only beat the BILLS... by 1 point earlier this year? I didnt see much hype and controversy over that game.. the almighty pats nearly fell to a horrific team, everyone has a bad game, so what, who cares.. move on... i mean, we could be bashing you guys for losing to the Jets.. who are 3-4.. but, i'll refrain from doing so.

but we also beat the ravens and falcons and should have won the denver game (IMO Denver will be a 10-6 team by the end of the year). you have beaten NO ONE yet. it's not the point differential but the fact that none of the teams you've beaten are any good. if San Fran, Jax and Miami almost beat you, why can't the pats, steelers, ravens? That 7-0 record of yours seems to be a bit inflated but we shall see...

 

[PATRIOTSFANINPA]

Focusing on who this team beat already and who that team beat already won't really make a difference when these two teams (the Pats and Colts) meet.

It will be whoever plays better that day...what they did last week or month and who they played is irrelevant if you want to be realistic about it.

Ask the Eagles who absolutely beat the snot out of the Giants yesterday of what happens when you don't show up like they failed to do in Oakland

 

[TedyB54]

but we also beat the ravens and falcons and should have won the denver game (IMO Denver will be a 10-6 team by the end of the year). you have beaten NO ONE yet. it's not the point differential but the fact that none of the teams you've beaten are any good. if San Fran, Jax and Miami almost beat you, why can't the pats, steelers, ravens? That 7-0 record of yours seems to be a bit inflated but we shall see...

As is often the case, the Pats and Colts are both relatively close stat wise.

Here's a quick sample of a few through 7 games each:

Offense PPG - Pats 28.3 Colts 28.1

Total Points - Pats 198 Colts 197

Offense YPG - Colts 316.3 Pats 291.0

Defense PPG - Colts 13 Pats 14

Defense YPG - Pats 285.7 Colts 292.1


Colts 7-0 record is against opponents with a current .515 winning percentage (17-33). Of those 7 teams, 1 has a winning record, 0 are .500 and 6 are below .500.

Pats 5-2 record is against opponents with a current .785 winning percentage (22-28). Of those 7 teams, 3 have a winning record, 1 is .500 and 3 are below .500.


As stated, it all comes down to execution on gameday. However, it certainly makes a curious case to wonder what each teams record might look like had these schedules been swapped.

Additionally, as history has shown, flashy stats and impressive regular season records don't mean much in the post season.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

I think at the end of the day the iron of the AFC will be who they generally are and the AFCW will be a back in tossup between two second tier AFC teams as it has been for the last couple of seasons...

And I think someone will emerge from the NFC and it won't really matter who they are...because while the NFC triumphs occasionally it tends to be the exception to the rule and it can be sloppy or chilly or windy in domeless Miami in February.

 

[WelshPat]

I think the 9ers are a good team and in this topic haven't got much respect.

As for the Colts, other than 1 long run they shut down Gore. They have a top rated pass defense and have played rookie corners. Manning passed for over 300 yards again but struggled in the red zone. Based on how well he's played on going to say Manning had an "off" day, the 9ers D played well and no-one respects Addai, Brown is much, much better.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

Careful, you're agenda is showing. You're becoming like the troll's best friend because that agenda matters to you more.

Hey Mo

It's "Spawn of the Dumb Girls"

Let me settle:

Are the Colts 7-0? Yup
Would the Pats be 7-0 with their schedule? Yup

Are the Pats 5-2? Yup
Would the Colts be 7-0 with the Pats schedule? Nope

In two weeks, will the winner need to execute better? Yup.

Miami actually provided a good "blueprint" and absent Ginn dropping passes; would have won handily.

 

[Dusty]

Hey Mo

It's "Spawn of the Dumb Girls"

Let me settle:

Are the Colts 7-0? Yup
Would the Pats be 7-0 with their schedule? Yup

Are the Pats 5-2? Yup
Would the Colts be 7-0 with the Pats schedule? Nope

In two weeks, will the winner need to execute better? Yup.

Miami actually provided a good "blueprint" and absent Ginn dropping passes; would have won handily.

well, thats ignorant.

 

[patsfaninpittsburgh]

well, thats ignorant.

You show up with that avatar and call someone else "ignorant"?

Hey, Barney, just admit your definition of "ignorant" means "over your head" and we will talk.

 

[Sivy]

Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning.

 

[livinginthe past]

Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning.

Only because you Patriots fans place too much weight on postseason performance.

Post season play is a team game.

Regular season stat building is an individual stat.

 

[mystrymaster]

Tom Brady is a better Patriot then Peyton Manning.

Peyton Manning is a better Colt then tom Brady

 

[TedyB54]

Colts 7-0 record is against opponents with a current .515 winning percentage (17-33). Of those 7 teams, 1 has a winning record, 0 are .500 and 6 are below .500.

Pats 5-2 record is against opponents with a current .785 winning percentage (22-28). Of those 7 teams, 3 have a winning record, 1 is .500 and 3 are below .500.



Bad math.

Colts opponents winning percentage is .340

Pats opponents winning percentage is .440

 

[Dusty]

You show up with that avatar and call someone else "ignorant"?

Hey, Barney, just admit your definition of "ignorant" means "over your head" and we will talk.

and this makes absolutely no sense lol. i mean, if ur gonna try and dis me, atleast put some thought into it, if your capable.

 

[Halifax_Pats_Fan]

Tom Brady is better than Peyton Manning.

finally something I can totally and utterly agree with...