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Too bad that Karras and Durant play different positions,..Exactly. Shows how little the OLine coach and oc know about talent eval that Karras sat for 4 weeks while durant played
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.Too bad that Karras and Durant play different positions,..Exactly. Shows how little the OLine coach and oc know about talent eval that Karras sat for 4 weeks while durant played
Gotta love when you choose arbitrary times in a pathetic attempt to prove a point.. Too bad you completely stink at it. You failed, yet again.Since Thanksgiving'19 this is a team with a 11-16 record. These are a different Patriots. The staff around BB isn't very good.
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You should watch the games more because "dancing" is the least of Stevenson's problems. In fact, none of the RBs have had this problem to this point.. Their problems have been they're over-aggressive. Running into the backs of their O-linemen and allowing themselves to get swallowed up. They aren't being patient enough. Except for Harris.Too much dancing behind the LOS from the backs at times - particularly Stevenson. Need more punch.
I'll take his evaluations over your highsight 20/20 garbage.Whatever you say, Steven.
This is false. Cole Popovich and Carmen Bricillo were CO-OLine Coaches after Dante left. And, according to the Pats website, Popovich is still employed by the team, though he's not participating this year due to the ridiculous f'in Covid BS.For 3. The original OL coach was let go due to refusal to take COVID vaccine.
At least your consistent in posting your unintelligent idiocy.This is a really good post. Thank you.
Yeah the team has fallen off a cliff since the 2nd half of the 2019 season. And losing a lot of quality staff people is certainly a factor.
I think looking at this team which has been 11-16 since Thanksgiving'19, it shouldn't be controversial to say the staff around BB is not good.
1. front office drafting has been bad for several recent years except for the last 1-2 drafts. Ziegler is in over his head. Giving away Gilmore and spending $300M in free agency (164M guaranteed) seems like there isn't an overall strategy. Elevate Eliot Wolf and also Groh.
2. offense has averaged under 20 points per game since Thanksgiving'19. 31st in red zone offense now and 31st in run offense. 24th in scoring. This looks way too much like the Denver'10 loser offense and league-worst St Louis'11 offense. I'm all for bringing back O'Shea or O'Brien at offensive coordinator. Daboll is too hot as an oc and is a HC candidate, we can't get him now.
3. The Oline coach shouldn't even be in the NFL, going from Youngstown State to coaching the Patriot OLine? gtfo of here, who hired him? Stop with the oc's subIQ ohio/indiana connections, they make the organization way worse.
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I don't.
He'll likely draft for other positions, but you know that. WRs will be mostly mid-tier veterans that have shown their capabilities to lessen the risk of busts, later round development guys or trades, but again you know that too.
And the fact that once Mac was upright and not eating the opposing defender's shoulder pad or the turf (i.e. seeing it's not the WRs, it's the OL that's the issue) , the non-weapon having Patriots passed the ball extremely successfully.
But that doesn't fit the narrative of only #1 WRs win football games and make QBs good.
@dreighver posted a still shot that he believes shows that the ball was loose prior to crossing the end zone. The problem is that you can't tell if the ball is actually loose in that angle or just shifted. All the other shots I saw, you couldn't see whether the ball was loose prior Harris crossing the plane with it.. And Crossing the plane only has to be less than 1/10th of a mm to count. And with the original call being a TD, the ref over-turning it even based on the shot @dreighver posted is laughable, imhoI cant read the whole thread but does anyone know how they could have overturned that Harris touchdown? They would need clear evidence and they didnt show any good replays but the ones I saw it looked like he was over the line bfore it was fumbled.
The problem is that the the defender wasn't "bent in half" per your claim. He was leaning forward. However, what you're ignoring is that the ball was in Harris' LEFT arm only when it was hit by the Texans' player LEFT hand. The problem with that snap shot that @dreighver posted is that you can not tell what's going on with Harris' left arm. All you see is the ball and the right arm. IF that is the shot they used to over-turn the play, they screwed up because you can't tell what's going on with the left arm.The angle doesn't matter if you take into account the defender's body position. He is standing on the goal line and bent in half as he reaches around and punches out the ball. The ball is seen coming out with the two players in the position. It doesn't look like that ball crossed the line with that defender standing on it, leaning forward and punching the ball out.
To be clear, I was really upset when they overturned that TD and I didn't want to see that picture but once I did, it's pretty clear that the ball was out before the goal line.
Yeah that is what I saw in the replays.The problem is that the the defender wasn't "bent in half" per your claim. He was leaning forward. However, what you're ignoring is that the ball was in Harris' LEFT arm only when it was hit by the Texans' player LEFT hand. The problem with that snap shot that @dreighver posted is that you can not tell what's going on with Harris' left arm. All you see is the ball and the right arm. IF that is the shot they used to over-turn the play, they screwed up because you can't tell what's going on with the left arm.
Also, if you look at the Texans' player's left foot, it's fully behind the goal line.. That means his left shoulder, at best is in line with the goal line. The problem is that in the replays, it shows the Texans' player's LEFT HAND hitting the ball. Not his right. For that to happen, he has to hit the end of the football that is by Harris' left elbow. And you can't tell when that happens from ANY of the angles shown. Not even the one posted by @dreighver.
Claiming that it's "pretty clear that the ball was out" is making things up. Because you can't tell what's going on at that point with Harris' left arm and the ball.
So you think we can get at last 3/4 year 1 starters to replace our Free Agents via the draft next year ? This would be a Perfect scenarioReally? The Pats won't be able to fix anything via the draft? When did you become Ms. Cleo? SMH. Statements like yours are beyond ridiculous. You sound like DKF..
I think a must for EVERYONE is more consistency on both sides of the ball.
The clutch gene is a rarity that HT has/had...more than athletic ability it was big plays at big moments. Going to be difficult to replace.They're gonna need to find a LEADER type player who can take over at LB.
Totally agree. They had no business overturning that. The call on the field should have been upheld. I watched the replay slo-mo and the angle does not allow them evidence to change the call. It seems to me he made it to the line and it was a TD.@dreighver posted a still shot that he believes shows that the ball was loose prior to crossing the end zone. The problem is that you can't tell if the ball is actually loose in that angle or just shifted. All the other shots I saw, you couldn't see whether the ball was loose prior Harris crossing the plane with it.. And Crossing the plane only has to be less than 1/10th of a mm to count. And with the original call being a TD, the ref over-turning it even based on the shot @dreighver posted is laughable, imho
The nose of the ball could have touched the line. They had no business overturning that TD because whenever the Pats get screwed the announcers always lecture us how it has to be totally clear, slam dunk, indisputable, courtroom worthy evidence to overturn a call on the field. No lecture about evidence this time.View attachment 36611
The ball is out here. The ball has not crossed the line here. Maybe his helmet did, but that is not where the ball is as Harris is leaning forward, as is the defender. Here we see Harris's helmet maybe crossing the line.
Having seen this and -to me- agreeing with the call, there is no $#@$ way that those bozos in New York saw this in the 30 seconds it took for them to overturn it. So while it hindsight, it looks - again, to me - like they got it right, I don't think they got it right live. I still think the TD should have stood.
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The ball is out here. The ball has not crossed the line here. Maybe his helmet did, but that is not where the ball is as Harris is leaning forward, as is the defender. Here we see Harris's helmet maybe crossing the line.
Having seen this and -to me- agreeing with the call, there is no $#@$ way that those bozos in New York saw this in the 30 seconds it took for them to overturn it. So while it hindsight, it looks - again, to me - like they got it right, I don't think they got it right live. I still think the TD should have stood.
So you think we can get at last 3/4 year 1 starters to replace our Free Agents via the draft next year ? This would be a Perfect scenario
patsfanfromoversea said:We won't be able to fix anything via draft so i hope we nail on a FS signing like we did with Phillips." (note that the bold was done as part of my response to your ridiculous post).
Ok my bad, i did mean everything instead of anything. I think my Second Post made that clean.ROFLMAO. Seriously. Could you change what you ACTUALLY SAID any more than this crap? Nice pathetic attempt at spin there.
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You said we won't be able to fix ANYTHING via the draft. Do you understand the word "Anything"?
I fully expect the Patriots to draft 3-4 players who will end up playing significant amounts of time during their rookie season. Player who will end up stepping in and replacing the players that leave/retire.
Maybe you should pay attention to your ridiculously exaggerated posts and what you actually say instead of trying to pin things on others that weren't remotely said or implied.
This screenshot is at an angle so you can't really tell where the ball is really. If you had an overhead shot or a straight down the goalline shot then you could say for sure. Parallax error is the fancy term for it.View attachment 36611
The ball is out here. The ball has not crossed the line here. Maybe his helmet did, but that is not where the ball is as Harris is leaning forward, as is the defender. Here we see Harris's helmet maybe crossing the line.
Having seen this and -to me- agreeing with the call, there is no $#@$ way that those bozos in New York saw this in the 30 seconds it took for them to overturn it. So while it hindsight, it looks - again, to me - like they got it right, I don't think they got it right live. I still think the TD should have stood.