Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Pats beat Arizona

[captain stone]

I wonder why TT lined up in the slot rather than outside while Bourne lined up outside
I thought switching these two would make sense

It would've made sense; that's why it wasn't done.

Chess vs Checkers.

 

[WhatJustHappened]

And I thought it was for the actor with Down’s syndrome, Chris Burke.

Chris Burke (actor) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Insinuation is there....

 

[captain stone]

True but I see KC winning out and BUF losing a game. BUF will be fighting with CIN for the 2 seed.

I REALLYREALLYREALLYREALLYREALLYREALLYREALLY hope not.

 

[captain stone]

Good bit from Hurley here with a film breakdown from Monday night:

That throw might've saved his job.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

True but I see KC winning out and BUF losing a game. BUF will be fighting with CIN for the 2 seed.

Not after we beat CIN.

 

[Ian]

That throw might've saved his job.

Jones's or Belichick's?

 

[SlowGettingUp]

Film review: A closer look at Mac Jones' deep passes during Patriots' win over Cardinals

The Patriots didn't take too many shots downfield vs. the Cardinals. Here's a closer look at why that was likely the case.

www.cbsnews.com

Hunter Henry's blocking noticeably worse than Smith's has been.

Someone smart suggested they need to run play action out of two TE sets to help the O-line.

 

[p8ryts]

Looks like Strange isn't blocking anyone on that play.

maybe Strange was supposed to come out for 41

 

[p8ryts]

Film review: A closer look at Mac Jones' deep passes during Patriots' win over Cardinals

The Patriots didn't take too many shots downfield vs. the Cardinals. Here's a closer look at why that was likely the case.

www.cbsnews.com

Hunter Henry's blocking noticeably worse than Smith's has been.

Someone smart suggested they need to run play action out of two TE sets to help the O-line.

Except that I cringe every time Mac turns his back to the line of scrimmage for a pass play

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I can't see why the lack of co-ordination of the offensive line, the failure of the players to progress and the obvious alienation of, for example, Isaiah Wynn, isn't down to the OL coach.

I agree on the lack of coordination. M Patricia did not chose the players, and Wynn's attitude is up to Wynn, Patricia is not there to baby sit him. If a professional football player has a bad attitude, commonly it is on the player. Wynn is only hurting his 2023 FA value. Having said that, unless Brown is better against the Raiders (over his illness) I might try Wynn at left tackle.

 

[PatsFan2]

I agree on the lack of coordination. M Patricia did not chose the players, and Wynn's attitude is up to Wynn, Patricia is not there to baby sit him. If a professional football player has a bad attitude, commonly it is on the player. Wynn is only hurting his 2023 FA value. Having said that, unless Brown is better against the Raiders (over his illness) I might try Wynn at left tackle.

Wynn @ LT can we see Wynn in Practice first??

 

[PatsFan2]

Film review: A closer look at Mac Jones' deep passes during Patriots' win over Cardinals

The Patriots didn't take too many shots downfield vs. the Cardinals. Here's a closer look at why that was likely the case.

www.cbsnews.com

Hunter Henry's blocking noticeably worse than Smith's has been.

Someone smart suggested they need to run play action out of two TE sets to help the O-line.

H Henrys' catching is leagues better than Smiths' I'm going with H Henry 9 out of 10 times.

 

[rochrist]

When playaction is run, the QB looks away from the play to sell the fake. If the defense is blitzing, which the Cards do a lot, having the QB look away is not ideal. With Mac it might be even worse since he does not scramble well. It is not obvious to me why this is bad. Can you explain why you think it is inexcusable?

Not to mention they were playing with about .75 tackles on one side and .5 on the other.

 

[Gumby]

Just finally got caught up on reading the post-game thread (10+ pages at one sitting) and I think I read a pattern & have a theory that those in the post-post repartee may not be tracking. …

It seems from the posts that there was ample evidence of Mac having good pocket movement in college and even last year, but not this year.

most seem to be looking to blame someone: either Mac, MP, or the OL.
but what if someone else had a hand??

Well, last year many, me included, hoped Mac would visit Tom House and get some more zip in his throw. Well he did (visit at least). But what if concentrating on the House fundamentals is now distracting him from his situational awareness and pocket decision-making?

just a stray thought for consideration.

 

[PatsFan2]

Just finally got caught up on reading the post-game thread (10+ pages at one sitting) and I think I read a pattern & have a theory that those in the post-post repartee may not be tracking. …

It seems from the posts that there was ample evidence of Mac having good pocket movement in college and even last year, but not this year.

most seem to be looking to blame someone: either Mac, MP, or the OL.
but what if someone else had a hand??

Well, last year many, me included, hoped Mac would visit Tom House and get some more zip in his throw. Well he did (visit at least). But what if concentrating on the House fundamentals is now distracting him from his situational awareness and pocket decision-making?

just a stray thought for consideration.

All Mac needs to do is keep it down and throw with more velocity. That Dagger pass to Henry showed me that he has the ability need to see more of those passes.

 

[Ian]

All Mac needs to do is keep it down and throw with more velocity. That Dagger pass to Henry showed me that he has the ability need to see more of those passes.

He's actually got a stronger arm than it looks. I went through a bunch of plays last night and he's deceptively strong:

This throw here traveled 20 yards in the air, and he didn't really even step into it:

View media item 43

 

[Ian]

A bunch of people were still talking about Zappe having a stronger arm than Mac, and I dug out a throw that traveled 21-yards in the air that Zappe threw - one that he actually wound up and fired - and Mac definitely holds the edge:

View media item 42
I also never noticed Zappe's release is a little weird. I'm sure, like Mac, we'll see an improvement in both Zappe's arm strength and mechanics this offseason.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Wynn @ LT can we see Wynn in Practice first??

Yes, of course. But do you want T Brown after the Cards game?

 

[PatsFan2]

Yes, of course. But do you want T Brown after the Cards game?

You know Trent Brown is our best Offensive Tackle right?? Earlier in the year he was playing like a Pro Bowler. I think he can get back to that playing level.

 

[upstater1]

Not after we beat CIN.

Patriots unfortunately have to go 10-7 w/ a win against the Dolphins. That's a MUST.

So, they have to beat either the Bills or Cincy. Gulp.