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Again a QB that has played 22 games with 8 bad games in his last 9 and the jury is still out but a rookie that played 4 games with one bad half and it’s set in stone that the guy can never get better.
He played really well in the second half against the Colts and almost brought the Patriots back. Then the defense gave up a huge TD run. And the first Bills game neither team threw for much of the game because of the conditions. And he played fairly well against the Bills in the playoffs. The defense was just abismal.
And most of the games late in the season last year , the defense forced Jones to huck the ball down the field and get out of his game.
Again a QB that has played 22 games with 8 bad games in his last 9 and the jury is still out but a rookie that played 4 games with one bad half and it’s set in stone that the guy can never get better.
Again, I am not defending Jones. Jones may not be the answer. He just has a higher ceiling than Zappe. At this rate neither guy will be a starting QB come next year.
And I think the jury is still out on Mac and I am not convinced that Zappe will ever be a legitimate starting QB.
I think Patricia needs to do what McDaniels would have done this season and go back to the basics and then mix in the down the field passing. Unfortunately, now we are near the midway point of the season where they have to do it. Patricia really screwed up Jones. A lot of that is on Jones, but I still think if he can get out of his funk, he is the better QB. If not, he is trash.
Jakobi - "Not even as a football player. I mean, it's tough as a man to see somebody who worked so hard kind of get that kind of treatment (Mac being benched)"
Wait, so I thought the "plan" was for Zappe to replace Mac. Why does one of their best receivers feel that Mac was disrespected? Was he not in on the "plan"?
Jakobi - "Not even as a football player. I mean, it's tough as a man to see somebody who worked so hard kind of get that kind of treatment (Mac being benched)"
Wait, so I thought the "plan" was for Zappe to replace Mac. Why does one of their best receivers feel that Mac was disrespected? Was he not in on the "plan"?
If the team loses next week, this could start to get very ugly for Bill. Kraft/media/fans put up with his BS when the team was winning, I highly doubt they will much longer if they keep losing. Defense was atrocious on 3rd down last night. Offensive line is a mess. Why is McCourtey still on this team? He cannot play anymore. Better figure this stuff out, and quickly.
Again, I am not defending Jones. Jones may not be the answer. He just has a higher ceiling than Zappe. At this rate neither guy will be a starting QB come next year.
1. This is not a good team, possibly the worst since Bill’s first year
2. Yes some of our pick ups in the off season panned out better than initially thought. However we still are at a net negative compared to last year. I always felt that way and the team taking a step back isn’t particularly surprising and really shouldn’t be to anyone paying attention.
3. People need to stop over-inflating positives. Green Bay being a moral victory a few weeks ago doesn’t look so good when the Jets and Commanders age actually sealing the deal vs them
4. The last two weeks were about opponent quality.
5. The Bears are not a good team. But our team really can’t cope with being in the backside of a score or any momentum going against them. They either need to control a game from start to finish or they lose. That’s a sign of mental weakness.
6. Bill’s Achilles Heel being a mobile QB who can run and make something out of a busted play is still a thing and Fields (who isn’t good) made him pay for it.
7. The offensive line is a complete mystery box that you never know what they will do on any given play.
8. This teams WR and TE’s are making more and more plays, but it’s showing that we still have a huge lack of key talent there.
9. Today more than ever I am concerned about Mac. Yes Zappe didn’t do anything in the second half. But I really don’t know how a starting QB bounces back from his big heroic return turning into the fans crapping all over him and then exploding for his replacement. Like it feels like the big first round pick was rejected by the fans and the team went along with it and the relationship is dinged. Frankly, we might have to start thinking about drafting a QB next draft if we are in a good position to.
All in all, this was a highly disappointing outing but not one that wasn’t somewhat predictable. I think this will be the one that kinda gets people to see where we realistically are as a team and that we probably should be thinking a bit more about the off season than we should about a potential playoff race. We were rebuilding in 2020, 2021 was an up year, this year was down year. It’s not going to be linear in the early stages and probably not at all until QB is a settled position.
Jakobi - "Not even as a football player. I mean, it's tough as a man to see somebody who worked so hard kind of get that kind of treatment (Mac being benched)"
Wait, so I thought the "plan" was for Zappe to replace Mac. Why does one of their best receivers feel that Mac was disrespected? Was he not in on the "plan"?
