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Imagine threatening peoples livelihoods because they don’t want a vaccine that doesn’t keep you from contracting or spreading a 99.9% survivable virus and carries a significant risk of myocarditis.
Because the executive branch cannot make laws for the legislative branch.
Once you stop breathing you aren't hurting anyone.
So the executive branch can make rulings that apply to the people but not to other branches of the government?
Which vaccines are experimental? Which have not been authorized for use by the FDA? Which vaccines have not already undergone large-scale clinical trials?
it's insane, especially with Omicron. The vax can spread just as easily as the unvaxed, but still we have people obsessed with the unvaxed. Want to blame someone, blame China.
All of the C19 vaccines were rushed through and were emergency/experimental at the start.Which vaccines are experimental? Which have not been authorized for use by the FDA? Which vaccines have not already undergone large-scale clinical trials?
There were those who rolled the dice when the vaccines were "experimental" then "authorized for emergency use." They're no longer only authorized for emergency use. They're just plain approved.
"Emergency Use" No More: FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine | JD Supra
There was a time in which employers and employees weren’t vexed with viruses, vaccines, and their respective duties and rights. That...www.jdsupra.com
By the way, AIDS sufferers were BEGGING for emergency use authorizations for certain drugs, and the Feds took a hit because they refused. They were like "oh no this vaccine might be bad for you. You say untreated AIDS is too? Not our lookout really."
Imagine being so bad at math you think a 1/1,000,000 risk of minor heart inflammation is worse than a 1/1000 risk of death.
You're missing the point completely. Adverse myocarditis events are not that rare. Those events become prevalent in certain population groups. And asking those people to boost and follow protocols that increase risk is ridiculous. There's no room for a conversation about risk reduction strategies.Wow we have a hearty little minority group of crackpots here.
WE THE PEOPLE have decided - ****'s serious. The crackpots will continue to try to eff it up, but if you value your lives and those of your countrymen, roll up your sleeve. 71% have received at least 1 dose; 60% have received 2 or received the one-shot J&J.
US Coronavirus vaccine tracker
Each state has a different plan — and different challenges — in distributing vaccines. Learn more about who is getting vaccinated by parsing the data by age, sex and race.usafacts.org
The "vax is no vax" idiocy is just that. It's highly efficacious vs. all three strains under discussion, to prevent hospitalization, and pretty good at preventing transmission against alpha and delta -- less so, from what I'm seeing thus far, against omicron.
Your air bag does not save every life. Sometimes it doesn't even help because your seat belt restrains you. The belt is still a belt and the bag is still a bag.
By the same token, vax up and mask up, if you have any sense. If not, FU, kill grandma this Christmas, I don't give a ****, you're in the "be wrong for entertainment" category. Unreachables, deplorables, whatever. You actually think rare zoonotic transmission is the biggest worry we have, you just need to stick to internet "science."
Got my booster today, by the way.
Y'awl need to get with the program, but you probably won't. Or maybe you did, and like all the fox news types, you got the vax and then want to argue like you didnt. But if you're honest about your delusions, you should be aware you're endangering the rest of us, because the "resevoir" that counts is the human-to-human vector/swamp you're perpetuating.
Here's a paper on myocarditis/pericarditis, 2 days old, Nature:
Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection - Nature Medicine
A self-controlled case series using individual-patient-level data from over 38 million people aged 16 years and over, reveals an increased risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving a first dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, which was further increased after a second dose of...www.nature.com
Abstract
Although myocarditis and pericarditis were not observed as adverse events in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine trials, there have been numerous reports of suspected cases following vaccination in the general population. We undertook a self-controlled case series study of people aged 16 or older vaccinated for COVID-19 in England between 1 December 2020 and 24 August 2021 to investigate hospital admission or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias in the 1–28 days following adenovirus (ChAdOx1, n = 20,615,911) or messenger RNA-based (BNT162b2, n = 16,993,389; mRNA-1273, n = 1,006,191) vaccines or a severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) positive test (n = 3,028,867). We found increased risks of myocarditis associated with the first dose of ChAdOx1 and BNT162b2 vaccines and the first and second doses of the mRNA-1273 vaccine over the 1–28 days postvaccination period, and after a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We also observed increased risks of pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias following a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. Similar associations were not observed with any of the COVID-19 vaccines, apart from an increased risk of arrhythmia following a second dose of mRNA-1273. Subgroup analyses by age showed the increased risk of myocarditis associated with the two mRNA vaccines was present only in those younger than 40.
So yeah, there is an association there. Not so much if you get COVID, but an association nonetheless.
Jesus people. Why do you think there 800,000 dead from the actual virus and even the scare "stories" you guys and Putin's troll farms are telling each other top out so much lower?
No vaccine is 100% efficacious. But, at the time of the alpha variant, these were damn close.
No vaccine is 100% safe (compared with a world without disease, which is not an option). But these are much safer to get than not to get.
And guess what - as the variants continue to come, we have to fight them. A vaccine that knocks out 30% transmission would be a W even if it didn't keep you out of the hospital. We need a better one? Well stfu about how vaccines don't work, and start lobbying for the next improvement. The virus tries something new, we try something new.
And if you applied that feckin "where we go one we go all" to getting yourselves vaccinated, we'd be way ahead of where we are now.
I can't wait to see the partisan "proof" that the next election was "rigged":
"Suddenly there are x more republicans dying than democrats, or so they'd have you believe..."
***** EVERYBODY.
Stop breathing, and that's the end of the story. If you're breathing, your body is forcing others' outcomes. Fact.
www.drugs.com
Imagine understanding the fact that the approved Comernity injection has not been distributed. All Pfizer injections are still the emergency use injections.Which vaccines are experimental? Which have not been authorized for use by the FDA? Which vaccines have not already undergone large-scale clinical trials?
There were those who rolled the dice when the vaccines were "experimental" then "authorized for emergency use." They're no longer only authorized for emergency use. They're just plain approved.
"Emergency Use" No More: FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine | JD Supra
There was a time in which employers and employees weren’t vexed with viruses, vaccines, and their respective duties and rights. That...
By the way, AIDS sufferers were BEGGING for emergency use authorizations for certain drugs, and the Feds took a hit because they refused. They were like "oh no this vaccine might be bad for you. You say untreated AIDS is too? Not our lookout really."
Just so you understand, your study doesn't account for age, here's the risk for myocarditis for under 40, greater than COVID, but let's ignore that and keep boosting young healthy males with moderna.Imagine being so bad at math you think a 1/1,000,000 risk of minor heart inflammation is worse than a 1/1000 risk of death.
Note that the 1/1000 risk of death also carries a 40/1,000,000 chance of heat inflammation if your survive
Higher risk of heart complications from COVID-19 than vaccines -study
COVID-19 infections are more likely to trigger rare cardiovascular complications such as heart inflammation and irregular heartbeat than vaccines, a British study showed on Tuesday, after scientists parsed data of about 38 million vaccinated people.www.reuters.com
I would have to imagine that. It's not true, from what I can tell. Nobody seems to say that but you. Got a link?
There are 200 times the deaths in the biggest spike here in the "decimal dust" of the 3,000 deaths above 800,000 deaths which we elide by rounding (800,000 deaths.) More have died of COVID today, by orders of magnitude, than you are worried about. For that matter, more under 40 have died of COVID today than your grand total of super-space-wasting bars.
Separation of powers. [They can make rules that apply to everyone, where they have that authority, but they can't make rulings that specifically govern the legislative branch.]
Its greater than COVID for 1 vaccine.
Because of do no harm. If you have a valid treatment that does less harm then you choose that. But people like you aren't willing to have that discussion
Not giving <40 is exactly the thing most countries are doing. But not America, because nuanced discussions about vaccines aren't possible.
