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This is just a microcosm of the political divide in this country - people on the left who think government knows best and those on the right who think people know best.
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Sure, I completely agree. But then they also have to live with the consequences of their decision. If you don't want to take the vaccine, don't complain about not being able to work certain jobs, go certain places, or do certain things.
Enough said right there!
Blaine Gabbert vs Brian Hoyer Super Bowl!
Oh the ratings will be insaneBlaine Gabbert vs Brian Hoyer Super Bowl!
Sign bodies from your PS then everyone else’s. Quality will take a nosedive but NFL will keep those revenues flowing. Keep our guys in a bubble.
I'd take Hoyer over Gabbert but Tampa's overall QB/WR/TE combo over NE's anyday.Blaine Gabbert vs Brian Hoyer Super Bowl!
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Sir, this is a Wendy's....Wow we have a hearty little minority group of crackpots here.
WE THE PEOPLE have decided - ****'s serious. The crackpots will continue to try to eff it up, but if you value your lives and those of your countrymen, roll up your sleeve. 71% have received at least 1 dose; 60% have received 2 or received the one-shot J&J.
US Coronavirus vaccine tracker
Each state has a different plan — and different challenges — in distributing vaccines. Learn more about who is getting vaccinated by parsing the data by age, sex and race.
The "vax is no vax" idiocy is just that. It's highly efficacious vs. all three strains under discussion, to prevent hospitalization, and pretty good at preventing transmission against alpha and delta -- less so, from what I'm seeing thus far, against omicron.
Your air bag does not save every life. Sometimes it doesn't even help because your seat belt restrains you. The belt is still a belt and the bag is still a bag.
By the same token, vax up and mask up, if you have any sense. If not, FU, kill grandma this Christmas, I don't give a ****, you're in the "be wrong for entertainment" category. Unreachables, deplorables, whatever. You actually think rare zoonotic transmission is the biggest worry we have, you just need to stick to internet "science."
Got my booster today, by the way.
Y'awl need to get with the program, but you probably won't. Or maybe you did, and like all the fox news types, you got the vax and then want to argue like you didnt. But if you're honest about your delusions, you should be aware you're endangering the rest of us, because the "resevoir" that counts is the human-to-human vector/swamp you're perpetuating.
Here's a paper on myocarditis/pericarditis, 2 days old, Nature:
Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection - Nature Medicine
A self-controlled case series using individual-patient-level data from over 38 million people aged 16 years and over, reveals an increased risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving a first dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, which was further increased after a second dose of...Abstract
Although myocarditis and pericarditis were not observed as adverse events in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine trials, there have been numerous reports of suspected cases following vaccination in the general population. We undertook a self-controlled case series study of people aged 16 or older vaccinated for COVID-19 in England between 1 December 2020 and 24 August 2021 to investigate hospital admission or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias in the 1–28 days following adenovirus (ChAdOx1, n = 20,615,911) or messenger RNA-based (BNT162b2, n = 16,993,389; mRNA-1273, n = 1,006,191) vaccines or a severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) positive test (n = 3,028,867). We found increased risks of myocarditis associated with the first dose of ChAdOx1 and BNT162b2 vaccines and the first and second doses of the mRNA-1273 vaccine over the 1–28 days postvaccination period, and after a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We also observed increased risks of pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias following a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. Similar associations were not observed with any of the COVID-19 vaccines, apart from an increased risk of arrhythmia following a second dose of mRNA-1273. Subgroup analyses by age showed the increased risk of myocarditis associated with the two mRNA vaccines was present only in those younger than 40.
So yeah, there is an association there. Not so much if you get COVID, but an association nonetheless.
Jesus people. Why do you think there 800,000 dead from the actual virus and even the scare "stories" you guys and Putin's troll farms are telling each other top out so much lower?
No vaccine is 100% efficacious. But, at the time of the alpha variant, these were damn close.
No vaccine is 100% safe (compared with a world without disease, which is not an option). But these are much safer to get than not to get.
And guess what - as the variants continue to come, we have to fight them. A vaccine that knocks out 30% transmission would be a W even if it didn't keep you out of the hospital. We need a better one? Well stfu about how vaccines don't work, and start lobbying for the next improvement. The virus tries something new, we try something new.
And if you applied that feckin "where we go one we go all" to getting yourselves vaccinated, we'd be way ahead of where we are now.
I can't wait to see the partisan "proof" that the next election was "rigged":
"Suddenly there are x more republicans dying than democrats, or so they'd have you believe..."
***** EVERYBODY.
Right!
you stupid phucking AZZOLE...booster? Got mine back in September...WTF were you waiting for...your blow-up doll you call Mrs.P getting a pin prick that kept your lips on the nozzle? You goddyamed repeating beacon of hysteria and doom...don't you get it yet? YOU ARE AN INSANE PERSON. It's too much to hope you DO get the covid....we can only hope an 18 wheeler does the job nature has so far refused to. Moron.Wow we have a hearty little minority group of crackpots here.
WE THE PEOPLE have decided - ****'s serious. The crackpots will continue to try to eff it up, but if you value your lives and those of your countrymen, roll up your sleeve. 71% have received at least 1 dose; 60% have received 2 or received the one-shot J&J.
US Coronavirus vaccine tracker
Each state has a different plan — and different challenges — in distributing vaccines. Learn more about who is getting vaccinated by parsing the data by age, sex and race.
The "vax is no vax" idiocy is just that. It's highly efficacious vs. all three strains under discussion, to prevent hospitalization, and pretty good at preventing transmission against alpha and delta -- less so, from what I'm seeing thus far, against omicron.
Your air bag does not save every life. Sometimes it doesn't even help because your seat belt restrains you. The belt is still a belt and the bag is still a bag.
By the same token, vax up and mask up, if you have any sense. If not, FU, kill grandma this Christmas, I don't give a ****, you're in the "be wrong for entertainment" category. Unreachables, deplorables, whatever. You actually think rare zoonotic transmission is the biggest worry we have, you just need to stick to internet "science."
Got my booster today, by the way.
Y'awl need to get with the program, but you probably won't. Or maybe you did, and like all the fox news types, you got the vax and then want to argue like you didnt. But if you're honest about your delusions, you should be aware you're endangering the rest of us, because the "resevoir" that counts is the human-to-human vector/swamp you're perpetuating.
Here's a paper on myocarditis/pericarditis, 2 days old, Nature:
Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection - Nature Medicine
A self-controlled case series using individual-patient-level data from over 38 million people aged 16 years and over, reveals an increased risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving a first dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273 vaccines, which was further increased after a second dose of...Abstract
Although myocarditis and pericarditis were not observed as adverse events in coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine trials, there have been numerous reports of suspected cases following vaccination in the general population. We undertook a self-controlled case series study of people aged 16 or older vaccinated for COVID-19 in England between 1 December 2020 and 24 August 2021 to investigate hospital admission or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias in the 1–28 days following adenovirus (ChAdOx1, n = 20,615,911) or messenger RNA-based (BNT162b2, n = 16,993,389; mRNA-1273, n = 1,006,191) vaccines or a severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) positive test (n = 3,028,867). We found increased risks of myocarditis associated with the first dose of ChAdOx1 and BNT162b2 vaccines and the first and second doses of the mRNA-1273 vaccine over the 1–28 days postvaccination period, and after a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We estimated an extra two (95% confidence interval (CI) 0, 3), one (95% CI 0, 2) and six (95% CI 2, 8) myocarditis events per 1 million people vaccinated with ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively, in the 28 days following a first dose and an extra ten (95% CI 7, 11) myocarditis events per 1 million vaccinated in the 28 days after a second dose of mRNA-1273. This compares with an extra 40 (95% CI 38, 41) myocarditis events per 1 million patients in the 28 days following a SARS-CoV-2 positive test. We also observed increased risks of pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmias following a positive SARS-CoV-2 test. Similar associations were not observed with any of the COVID-19 vaccines, apart from an increased risk of arrhythmia following a second dose of mRNA-1273. Subgroup analyses by age showed the increased risk of myocarditis associated with the two mRNA vaccines was present only in those younger than 40.
So yeah, there is an association there. Not so much if you get COVID, but an association nonetheless.
Jesus people. Why do you think there 800,000 dead from the actual virus and even the scare "stories" you guys and Putin's troll farms are telling each other top out so much lower?
No vaccine is 100% efficacious. But, at the time of the alpha variant, these were damn close.
No vaccine is 100% safe (compared with a world without disease, which is not an option). But these are much safer to get than not to get.
And guess what - as the variants continue to come, we have to fight them. A vaccine that knocks out 30% transmission would be a W even if it didn't keep you out of the hospital. We need a better one? Well stfu about how vaccines don't work, and start lobbying for the next improvement. The virus tries something new, we try something new.
And if you applied that feckin "where we go one we go all" to getting yourselves vaccinated, we'd be way ahead of where we are now.
I can't wait to see the partisan "proof" that the next election was "rigged":
"Suddenly there are x more republicans dying than democrats, or so they'd have you believe..."
***** EVERYBODY.
Preliminary data shows that among boosted (elderly), they were only 1/10th as likely to contract COVID as the unboosted elderly, according to Fauci this AM on GMA.We don't know all the characteristics of Omicron, and one critical thing I am looking out for is whether the vaccines, in humans, have much success decreasing infectivity beyond what we've seen - at fully boosted (full vax + a booster) level.
We just need more time to gather that data on the ground. But we have a nice rich test-bed to gather it. The rest of the world says thanks.
Though one likely vector of the original alpha strain was from bats, I did not know that a significant source of infection is continuous zoonotic leaps. Is that documented as making up a lot of the spread? Everything I see is about human-human contact.
Certainly in comparison with those with comorbidities. However, this raises some questions (one of which is, how old are you? Only partly tongue in cheek. The idea that a comorbidity is a rarity is a bit oversold with the breadth of categories considered a comorbidity for COVID.
But I don't understand your plea that it "needs to be filtered down." I mean, to determine what? To decide whether you, personally, are just a mosquito or someone who'll get malaria, and how sure you can putatively be of that? Welp, a little less than half the adult population has a comorbidity... including almost 1 in 5 ages 18-29. "Sorry Hoffstedder, you're young but the inhaler's a dead giveaway." So, whatever it "needs to be filtered" for, you still have a huge at-risk population. Are you, for some reason, concerned only with whether it will kill people without comorbidities?
Population based estimates of comorbidities affecting risk for complications from COVID-19 in the US
We used 2017 Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System (BRFSS) data (N=444,649) to estimate the proportion of US adults who report comorbidities that suggest heightened risk of complications from COVID-19. Co-morbidities included cardiovascular disease, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease...www.medrxiv.org
