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  1. FoxboroFlyer

    FoxboroFlyer In the Starting Line-Up

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    How do these teams "find out" the most secretive HC in the game is interested? That's kinda weird.
     
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    That was in the context of their discussion that they think it’s likely...
     
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    Look at the TEs drafted in the first two rounds over the last half decade. Only one had the catch production you're after (Evan Engram) and that guy is a terrible blocker. Maybe two if you count Eric Ebron but he was only good for 25 catches as a rookie and he can't block either.
     
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    Pats have over 13 million in cap room according to patscap
     
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    FoxboroFlyer In the Starting Line-Up

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    You never heard of Damien Harris? That explains a lot.
     
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    Tunescribe PatsFans.com Supporter PatsFans.com Supporter

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    I believe the problem is we fans trying to fit our square pegs into BB's round holes. BB views personnel acquisition in terms of very specific complementary role players who are smart and have leadership qualities -- not in terms of talent level. He builds teams with a level of sophistication nobody else has a grip on.
     
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    You Googled "Patriots cap space" and the first thing you found was a month old Ben Volin article, didn't you? I see what you're up to.
     
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    FoxboroFlyer In the Starting Line-Up

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    Gronk was a unicorn. We were all spoiled.
     
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    BaconGrundleCandy Experienced Starter w/First Big Contract

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    Most dont follow the draft until a month or a few weeks before. Have an idea of what they want, get their opinions from others & end up disappointed.

    1)WR was a huge need. I'm not a WR/RB guy in Rd1 but our group was absurdly thin.
    2)Swing Tackle addressed.
    3)Easily one of the deeper RB groups in the league for a team that wants to run the ball
    4)Rush/Edge position addressed.

    Still have plenty of picks for a roster w few holes.
     
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    Exactly. The new Gronk isn't walking through that door unless it's the old Gronk. Although even the old Gronk wasn't really Gronk anymore.

    Ideally the Patriots strike gold like the 49ers did (excuse the awful pun) with Kittle because the recent history indicates using a high draft pick on a tight end is a waste of resources. Most of them have the offensive production of a WR4 or WR5.
     
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    Harris was a steal in my opinion
     
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    Relax PFK. They obviously didn't have the tight ends available graded very high.

    I did a mock draft game a couple of days before the draft and ended up taking... a RB with a mid round pick simply because the value was too good to pass up. So I'm not surprised that the Pats selected a versatile RB as a value pick.

    Now in my mock I went for Irv Smith Jr. We passed on him. Obviously, with JJ Williams, BB is prioritizing getting a defender to make plays against the big tight ends/big wrs that usually gash our D. It's been a weakness for a couple of years now. So I'm actually not upset we took Brandon Browner 2.0.

    In the 3rd round, I'm thinking BB either does not rate the remaining tight ends very highly or saw a lot of similar talent being available in the 4th. I mean who's to say if Alize Mack or Foster Moreau will turn out any worse than Knox or Sternberger?

    Get some sleep, don't stress, in BB we trust. :cool: Draft is a crapshoot anyways. But usually we hit on our 1st rounders and if N'Keal Harry is as good as the Pats brass feel that he is, all those worries will melt away when you see him grabbing his first big touchdown this season. ;)

     
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    Fair enough, but Damien Harris isn't exactly an obscure player. If people want to complain, they should be informed on what they're complaining about.
     
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    The median production for a third round rookie tight end over the past decade is about 12 catches for 150 yards and 1 TD.
     
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    I don't know where you get your information, but it's complete garbage.....

    Williams had a 2nd round rating. And Harry didn't have problems getting separation at the college level.
     
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    I have done it thank to your help and @reamer @BaconGrundleCandy and many others on that board. Your knowledge and great analysis led me to it.Thanx guys :)
     
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    Agreed. I think a lot are playing catch up, not into the draft & getting their opinions elsewhere instead of doing the work themselves. Nothing wrong w that but like you said its tough to take them seriously.
     
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    Bingo. Constructive criticism is fine when it’s educated. But when it’s someone merely using the rankings of some draft website to compare and contrast who is picked vs. who is available..well...

    Something tells me Bill and the staff have put a little more thoughtfulness into their draft decisions than that.
     
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    Loved picking Harry and Winovich. The only pick I wonder about is JoeJuan Williams. Not entirely convinced it was the right pick given the trade up. But Belichick thought highly enough to make that move and according to Rappaport was going to select him at 32 if not Harry. So he clearly likes him. Good enough for me.
     
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