NFL Appeal oral arguments thread

[Patsfanin Philly]

I'm eagerly anticipating what Munson has to say about this case. His track record is impeccable and his opinion is the only one I need to hear.

He said Justice Scalia would make sure the NFL won on appeal if it ever made it to the Supreme Court......

 

[Deus Irae]

I'm eagerly anticipating what Munson has to say about this case. His track record is impeccable and his opinion is the only one I need to hear.

Just as long as he doesn't start saying Brady will win....

 

[cmasspatsfan]

I'm eagerly anticipating what Munson has to say about this case. His track record is impeccable and his opinion is the only one I need to hear.

Ironically it is, he's wrong 100% of the time so whatever he says bet the opposite.

 

[juny]

favorable start, no?

 

[juny]

Ironically it is, he's wrong 100% of the time so whatever he says bet the opposite.

stradley retweeted someone saying he is the mike carey of lawyers

 

[SVN]

favorable start, no?

like berman, they will come after both sides. lets wait and watch.

 

[Calhoun44]

My "tin foil hat" theory as to what will happen after today:

The two sides will have their final day in court and then the NFL will give back the draft picks and $1 million dollars. The owners have instructed the lawyers that this is the end of the line for this case win or lose, they are sick of this "bologna" always popping up in the news. My hope is that the NFL realizes that they were wrong about the IGL, but because they took this case too far and it now has turned into a labor dispute they were unwilling to show weakness until the appeal was heard. I believe that once this case is in the courts no more evidence/outside influences will be heard by the judges and so the NFL will be free to rescind the team punishment. With this warped logic of mine, I also see a scenario where if the case is won by the NFL , they drop the 4 game suspension too. The owners have realized how much player goodwill has been lost lately and want to plan ahead for the next CBA negotiations by throwing the PA some bones. And for all you Kraft haters, this has been his plan all along and is the reason Brady still loves Kraft so much.

I know there are a lot of holes in this theory and to some extent this post should be ignored, but some part of me needs to believe that people that run for POTUS or run billion dollar organizations like the NFL can't be this ignorant/petty. There has to be some kind of strategy, right?

Remember, I live in WA, one of the states where weed is legal.

 

[Deus Irae]

stradley retweeted someone saying he is the mike carey of lawyers

If Stradley decided to be the next Bachelorette, there would be 100's of thousands of Patriots fans signing up to be contestants/potential husbands.

 

[Gronkowski123]

following the twitter feed above...
seems like the judges are sane!

 

[Hammer of Thor]

favorable start, no?

First question makes sense, Chin appeared to be the most liberal of the three judges.

Don't particularly like Katzmann's question because the fact-finding of the arbitrator is supposed to be beyond scope per my understanding. Unless they actually are considering to rule on what Berman didn't (impartiality).

 

[SVN]

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Said stickum is prohibited...gross disparity between the two punishments. Looks good so far

 

[Mack Herron]

1. 
   Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 9m9 minutes ago
   Parker questions whether you get "any advantage on the field" from under inflated footballs.
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3. Raffi Melkonian Retweeted
   Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 10m10 minutes ago
   Judge Parker says some might call suspension "draconian." "Why is the inflation level so critical in these games?"
   
   
   Raffi Melkonian Retweeted
   Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 12m12 minutes ago
   Judge Chin notes that first offenses for uniform and equipment violations result in fines. Clement: suspension was for "conduct detrimental"
   
   Raffi Melkonian Retweeted
   Max Stendahl ‏@MaxLaw360 14m14 minutes ago
   Judge Parker: "There was no element of surprise" related to the cell phone issue.

 

[SVN]

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

DIdn't expect it this one sided...i know they will go after both but this is pretty stong off the bat

 

[The Brandon Five]

Is there any chance Brady hired Jackie Chiles to his legal staff for the appeal hearings?

Why not? The NFL hired the "Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer".

"I do not know this 'due process' you speak of, I am but an NFL lawyer".

"You confuse and frighten me with your modern ways. I do not know this mysterious 'Gas Law" you keep mentioning. Sounds like some sort of sorcery!"

"There is one thing I do know, your honor! Article 46!"

 

[Rob0729]

I just heard on the radio one of the judge's questions was "Isn't stickum a violation and why was is there such disparity in punishments. "

 

[tatepatsfan]

I agree that it is going well so far, but would just caution that they are questioning the NFL's attorney at the moment. They will be tough on Brady's counsel too. Nevertheless, they have definitely seized on the inherent unfairness and lack of process the NFL used here, which bodes well IMO.

 

[Deus Irae]

The NFL is getting hammered with the questioning. It will be interesting to see if Kessler gets the same treatment.

 

[Fencer]

Still boggles my mind that the NFL can find $12m+ to litigate this garbage but can't scrape up $50-100 bucks for a few extra endzone cameras.

Naah. Cameras cost a lot more than that, because the NFL needs them to be really reliable ...

... just like the headset communication system.