MNF 12/12 Pre-game thread: Pats @ Arizona

[venecol]

IF Conner McDermott is one of our Starting Tackles we can put this game in the loss column. BB must be stewing over that Wynn Fifth year option.

 

[mgteich]

More worried about our D than O on this one. Cousins picked us apart.

ARIZ is not comparable to MINN,

MINN is a very strong team who could be in the Championship game. ARIZ islooking to their 2023 draft placing.

 

[PatsFan2]

What?? No pun intended so this is where Watt is now? I thought he retired.

 

[sb1]

FWIW the last time they met

Patriots 20-17 Cardinals (Nov 29, 2020) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals NFL game, final score 20-17, from November 29, 2020 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

Murray 5 rushes for 31 yards and only a 67 rating against our defense which was worse than this year’s.

Hopkins 5 catches for 55. They’ll have to do better against him than they did against Diggs and Jefferson.

 

[Bruins29]

What are the factual facts behind your post "Murray and Carr are light years better than Wac Jones."?

He will never respond to anyone who asks him about any claim he makes. Gutless, gutless, gutless

 

[patsinthesnow]

The pats have to get Marcus Jones on the field with Mills likely out this week. He's been good in extended action both times (browns, bills) & has only given up 2 receptions this season. His ST workload shouldn't keep him off the field vs. a team with 3-4 good WRs IMO.

 

[archstanton543]

What?? No pun intended so this is where Watt is now? I thought he retired.

I thought Von Miller retired but he ended up being a big splash signing for the Bills.

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

FWIW the last time they met

Patriots 20-17 Cardinals (Nov 29, 2020) Final Score - ESPN

Game summary of the New England Patriots vs. Arizona Cardinals NFL game, final score 20-17, from November 29, 2020 on ESPN.

www.espn.com

Murray 5 rushes for 31 yards and only a 67 rating against our defense which was worse than this year’s.

Hopkins 5 catches for 55. They’ll have to do better against him than they did against Diggs and Jefferson.

Murray was on one leg in that game, he was really hurting.

 

[borg]

Now do the other quarters. Don't they all suck?

How about this......

Since 11:41 of the 4th quarter vs GB in Week 4, the NE offense has failed to score a TD when starting their drive in NE territory in any 4th quarter.
24 consecutive 4th quarter offensive drives that started in NE territory............. 0 TDs

0 for 24 since the Week 4 4th quarter TD
In OT: 0 for 1

Note: 2 of 24 drives consisted of NE running out clock to secure win

 

[Dingleberry]

How about this......

Since 11:41 of the 4th quarter vs GB in Week 4, the NE offense has failed to score a TD when starting their drive in NE territory in any 4th quarter.
24 consecutive 4th quarter offensive drives that started in NE territory............. 0 TDs

0 for 24 since the Week 4 4th quarter TD
In OT: 0 for 1

Note: 2 of 24 drives consisted of NE running out clock to secure win

I'm with you. The 4th quarters are embarrassing.

But you gotta do the other quarters too so we can be really depressed!

 

[signbabybrady]

How about this......

Since 11:41 of the 4th quarter vs GB in Week 4, the NE offense has failed to score a TD when starting their drive in NE territory in any 4th quarter.
24 consecutive 4th quarter offensive drives that started in NE territory............. 0 TDs

0 for 24 since the Week 4 4th quarter TD
In OT: 0 for 1

Note: 2 of 24 drives consisted of NE running out clock to secure win

Not that there's a noticeable difference between 24 and 22. But the font size you used for the first number compared to the truer number in little case this feels like some ad for half off at a fast food chain but then you read the last line and find out it's only half off if you buy 2 other things first and you'd be spending more more just to save.

Why do that when the numbers are ugly enough on their own. Never trust an Ad man.

 

[borg]

I'm with you. The 4th quarters are embarrassing.

But you gotta do the other quarters too so we can be really depressed!

What's mindboggling is Belichick's mindset in 4th quarters in recent years

In 2021, he consciously avoided putting Mac Jones in the position of having to win games with his arm during crunch time and it could be argued Bill was willing to sacrifice wins in order to minimize the pressure on his rookie QB

Fast forward to the most recent Buffalo disaster with BB admitting afterwards he opted for "damage minimization" in the 4th quarter rather than going all in for a come from behind win.

His willingness to surrender is soul crushing

 

[Thelonious]

Neither our record nor whether we make the playoffs matters this year. The sole focus should be on evaluating the players we have, Mac foremost, on getting rid of the dead weight in our coaching ranks (a clean sweep is pretty appealing at this point), and on figuring out how to get some decent O-lineman on the roster.

This team is like a drunk: has to hit bottom before it can gain the leverage to rise up.

It's not as if we have ANY prospect of accomplishing anything if by some weird happenstance we end up in the post-season.

Who will win this game? Doesn't matter. We can work on our evaluations either way.

 

[captain stone]

ARIZ is not comparable to MINN,

MINN is a very strong team who could be in the Championship game. ARIZ islooking to their 2023 draft placing.

They haven't yet been officially eliminated, and Kliffy might be coaching for his job (the Hard Knocks Curse), so I expect maximum effort with all of his receivers at the Midget's disposal... Double-digit points might be enough for them to win anyway.

 

[captain stone]

What?? No pun intended so this is where Watt is now? I thought he retired.

He was given his release by Little Nicky Caesar's team on Lincoln's birthday last year, then signed a two-year deal with the Cardinals one month later.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

The start of a 3 game winning streak, you heard it here first!

...so Mac will resprain his ankle in the first quarter. Got it. Thanks.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Cam won that game running to convert a 3rd and 13 and then taking a hit for a 15 yard penalty to put the Pats in FG range. Might have been a ticky tack call but it benefited us.

On a side note, calling DB the 'second best quarterback in Patriots history' is like saying Neil Lomax is the 'second best quarterback in Cardinals history'

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

ARIZ is not comparable to MINN,

MINN is a very strong team who could be in the Championship game. ARIZ islooking to their 2023 draft placing.

I hope the Pats do better there than the Bruins

 

[ashley]

Happy Saturday to all:

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Happy Saturday to all:

I'm confident the Patriots won't lose tomorrow.

Not convinced, just confident.