Meyer Covered up for Spikes, Hernandez and Harvin at UF

[Spiral]

Interesting article.

BB tells current Gator team to not be like those guys.

From champs to chomped: How Urban Meyer broke Florida football - NCAA Football - Sporting News

 

[JackBauer]

Failed drug tests for marijuana? Meh.

 

[PATSNUTme]

Just how prevalent was the drug use among Meyer’s players? A source told Sporting News that Patriots coach Bill Belichick spoke to the current Florida team this offseason, and addressed the issue and how it impacts NFL careers.
“His message was, in essence, don’t be like those guys,” a source said.

I don't see a direct quote by BB, just what a "source" said BB's message was "in essence".

That was a terrible , no real facts, just a whole lot of words playing pin the tail on the donkey.


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[Wretch]

Failed drug tests for marijuana? Meh.

I agree, God forbid a college student smoke marijuana.

Frankly if you dig enough you will find that similar things happen in all of the major college programs. None of them are "clean." Some are just worse than others.

Major college football and men's basketball are the NBA's and NFL's minor leagues. The athletes are professionals. They are exchanging their services for a scholarships and an opportunity to demonstrate their abilities on a national level, rather than a paycheck.

I for one stopped getting upset about the death of "amateur" college athletics a while ago.

 

[BigMike]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

so they liked to partake of the 420 in college - like many other college kids....nothing to see here....

 

[Calciumee]

I hate those athletes that smoke weed... it can really help them...


Announcer: ...takes the hand off, and it seems he is running is slow-motion!

 

[BradyManny]

I think what Belichick meant to say was "keep doing that, so we can draft you way later then you should've gone..."

And maybe he'll do that with a former UF player this year in Jenkins.

 

[BradyFTW!]

In my book, pretty much every college kid gets a free pass for weed. It's on par with underage drinking, pretty much.

 

[Kontradiction]

In my book, pretty much every college kid gets a free pass for weed. It's on par with underage drinking, pretty much.

Agreed. Meyer is a scum bag for a couple of reasons, the biggest of which was bailing out on Florida when the going got tough post-Tebow. But this isn't one of them. If you spend any long period of time in Gainesville, you'd be smoking some weed too.

 

[TruthSeeker]

What is this "marijuana" and "420" you all speak of ? ;-)

 

[Tunescribe]

As long as we're on the subject of cannabis: There's no real reason for being on the list of NFL-banned substances except for the fact it's illegal.

 

[dizi24]

Not that I care too much in this situation, because weed is weed, but NCAA is the biggest joke in the world. The corruption and coverups of all these programs, the profiting of student athletes while not giving them a cent, the joke of an education that the athletes gets, and the complete lack of responsibility it has shown in taking care of its athletes in anyway. The way NCAA defends its position by calling them "student athletes" while at the same time letting students play who can barely read and letting them through classes with a wink and a nod is sickening.

Off topic, but the NCAA is one of the most disgusting organizations in the US

 

[Deus Irae]

As long as we're on the subject of cannabis: There's no real reason for being on the list of NFL-banned substances except for the fact it's illegal.

The players were stupid enough to allow testing and punishment for non-performance-enhancing drugs. Once they did that, it's just haggling over which items go on the list, and the players have no real moral argument to keep marijuana off of it.

 

[Steve102]

Not that I care too much in this situation, because weed is weed, but NCAA is the biggest joke in the world. The corruption and coverups of all these programs, the profiting of student athletes while not giving them a cent, the joke of an education that the athletes gets, and the complete lack of responsibility it has shown in taking care of its athletes in anyway. The way NCAA defends its position by calling them "student athletes" while at the same time letting students play who can barely read and letting them through classes with a wink and a nod is sickening.

Off topic, but the NCAA is one of the most disgusting organizations in the US

Geez, don't hold back. Tell the class what you really think.

 

[MP-Logick]

Can he cover up for some more players so we can draft them as well? Spikes, Hernandez, and Harvin...what they have in common? They're all very good NFL players.

 

[Shockt327]

You know, this article really got under my skin due to the author framing certain things...

There were rumors that Gonzales resigned with a Post-it note on Meyer’s desk.

“I never left a Post-it note,” Gonzales said.

So, the authors simply cites "rumors," and then quotes Gonzales denying it? That's nonsense. By ordering it in that fashion you've already placed a burden of guilt in the reader's mind (based on "rumors" over a post-it, mind you) and directly following it with a denial almost makes it look worse.

Spikes, sources said, failed a drug test at Florida and was suspended four games during his rookie season with the Patriots for using performance enhancing drugs.

Adderall? Adderall is a PED? C'mon.

“I told (Meyer) I was on track to graduate, I wasn’t a problem and I did everything I was supposed to do—I just had a knee injury,” Thomas said. “I told them I wasn’t leaving, and if they tried to force me to leave, I was going to tell everyone everything."

Again, the author's use of quotes places an implied burden of blame on Meyer. The quote is about *IF* Thomas would ever be "forced" to move on. That's a big if. Cause he wasn't "forced." That's simply implied by the quote. A quote that uses the word "if" because it never actually happened. Of course, using the quote in that fashion creates that impression in the reader's mind...despite it not happening.

Rather, Thomas was injury prone student-athlete on scholarship and told that he simply wasn't going to be in their plans anymore for football and was advised to try to play at a different school...which he later did. So...am I supposed to think this is unreasonable? He's on scholarship for sports. Yet, he can't play that sport. So the coach, instead, wants to use that scholarship on another student-athlete. Yet, Thomas is still allowed to stay at Florida, on scholarship too, but he just simply cannot play football due to a medical hardship waiver which Thomas himself agreed to sign. Huh? Am I actually supposed to think this is bad? Sounds pretty fair, really.

What's even worse is that the author tries to frame this as being "ruthless" roster management, and how Thomas will be the only one who isn't afraid to "speak out" against Meyer (um, about *what* exactly?). Really? Cause if that's the case, then I'd just as easily call this "ruthless" journalism. Framing events to create an impression over rumors and over events *if* it could have happened.

 

[DarrylS]

"Reefer Madness".

Coddled Athletes in college smoking dope, who would have thunk????

 

[Boomer B]

In my book, pretty much every college kid gets a free pass for weed. It's on par with underage drinking, pretty much.

Kids that are NFL caliber players who smoke weed are complete idiots. How many millions did Hernandez cost himself by smoking dope? He could have been a 1st or 2nd round choice, instead he gets picked in the 4th.

 

[BlueThunder]

College educated athlete is an oxymoron. (with few exceptions...The Bill's QB is an exception I'll admit)

When a player gets a 4 on his Wonderlic, something is amiss.

 

[Jackson 2]

Not that I care too much in this situation, because weed is weed, but NCAA is the biggest joke in the world. The corruption and coverups of all these programs, the profiting of student athletes while not giving them a cent, the joke of an education that the athletes gets, and the complete lack of responsibility it has shown in taking care of its athletes in anyway. The way NCAA defends its position by calling them "student athletes" while at the same time letting students play who can barely read and letting them through classes with a wink and a nod is sickening.

Off topic, but the NCAA is one of the most disgusting organizations in the US

As Bob Ryan said some time ago (and I'm paraphrasing slightly), "If you love hot dogs, sausages and Division 1 college althletics, you're probably better off not knowing how any of them are made."