Malcolm Butler Mega Thread

[rochrist]

It was stat based.

And it wasn't his story. He just reported on it.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Butler is a #2 / #3 corner ... that's what he is.
He'll work his butt off but he lacks the speed and height for that matter to cover elite WR's.
Hate to knock him ... he's a good guy but football is a business and he is overpaid.

 

[supafly]

They’re overpaying for former pats because they have the cap and their GM (who worked in NE in the past)believes these players can help bring a winning culture/mentality to an overall young team.

Yes, sir. We see it every single year. I’m fully convinced that our free agents are generally overvalued due to some of the reasons that you provided above, as well as prime time/playoff exposure, and the old “if Belichick liked him” line of thinking.

 

[Crazy Patriot Guy]

Against the Jags

Pats with Butler: 20 points allowed
Pats w/o Butler: 31 points allowed

Ok.

Against the Jags

Pats with Jordan Richards: 20 points allowed
Pats w/o Jordan Richards: 31 points allowed

Hmmmm.....mistake to trade him away?

 

[DarrylS]

This all started when his second rate agent overvalued him early on and did not accept the Pats very generous offer..

He opted to hit the open market, and now he is with another team he is crapping the bed... BB & staff have always had the uncanny knack of knowing how to hide a players deficiencies while accentuating their strengths.. why so many guys who left here have not done as well as they did here..

From Field Yates on Twitter... keep in mind that this offer was made in 2017, and things changed by the end of last year.

Some context on Malcolm Butler’s reported 5-year $61M deal with Titans: the Patriots’ final offer before last season was for 6-years, $66M, with $25.5M guaranteed (five years on top of his restricted free agent tender of $3.91M). Same neighborhood.
9:15 AM - 14 Mar 2018

 

[Ivan]

Against the Jags

Pats with Butler: 20 points allowed
Pats w/o Butler: 31 points allowed

Against Pederson offense Chef’s 2017, 42 points with Butler

Against Pederson Eagles 41 points without Butler.

Butler admitted in an interviews after he left NE that the reason he dint play in the Super Bowl was because Belichick saw him as a player who wasn’t prepared for the game. Butler was at fault, not Belichick.

 

[everlong]

Watch both of the Titans games from this year........he hasn't been remotely good.

 

[farn]

Watch both of the Titans games from this year........he hasn't been remotely good.

But that makes NO sense at all !!! It would mean (gasp) that BB knows more about football than the avg patsfan.....

 

[Sciz]

The Titans have the 10th (Butler) and 15th (Ryan) highest paid CBs in APY, plus a second-year first round pick (Jackson). Only the Saints have allowed more receiving yards to opposing teams’ wide receivers.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Against Pederson offense Chef’s 2017, 42 points with Butler

Against Pederson Eagles 41 points without Butler.

Butler admitted in an interviews after he left NE that the reason he dint play in the Super Bowl was because Belichick saw him as a player who wasn’t prepared for the game. Butler was at fault, not Belichick.

You can say this 100,000,000 times.

90% of the fans say it doesn't matter if Malcolm says he wasn't ready. Bill still chose not to put him in, therefore it is Bill's fault the Pats lost the Super Bowl.

 

[moejr]

Against Pederson offense Chef’s 2017, 42 points with Butler

Against Pederson Eagles 41 points without Butler.

Butler admitted in an interviews after he left NE that the reason he dint play in the Super Bowl was because Belichick saw him as a player who wasn’t prepared for the game. Butler was at fault, not Belichick.

Still would have been better than the clowns we played in his place

 

[Simpelton]

I doubt it. A scrub who's ready to play is more likely to be effective than a superstar who isn't.

People are assuming putting Butler in would mean we had vintage Butler. There is NO evidence that that would have happened. He played very poorly in the playoffs leading up to the superbowl. He has played poorly since he left NE. Do the math folks.

 

[Hyped]

Titans play Jags this weekend....good game to compare Butler to our current CB's.

 

[PittPatriot]

Against Pederson offense Chef’s 2017, 42 points with Butler

Against Pederson Eagles 41 points without Butler.

Butler admitted in an interviews after he left NE that the reason he dint play in the Super Bowl was because Belichick saw him as a player who wasn’t prepared for the game. Butler was at fault, not Belichick.

That's true...but the SB game was the worst team defensive performance since the 1995 Chargers (so it felt). We would not be having this conversation if Butler played the last 10 minutes. I was almost over it...

 

[chasa]

Against Pederson offense Chef’s 2017, 42 points with Butler

Against Pederson Eagles 41 points without Butler.

Butler admitted in an interviews after he left NE that the reason he dint play in the Super Bowl was because Belichick saw him as a player who wasn’t prepared for the game. Butler was at fault, not Belichick.

Anyone with 2 working eyes saw that the defensive plan for the superbowl was flawed. Continuing to blame butler because Bill failed to adjust mid game is asinine.

Bill selected the players that would start, Bill selected the players that would continue to play. Bill watched his defense put up the worst performance in recent superbowl history, and he did NOTHING to try and change it. That's not Butlers fault, that's on Bill "General Custer" Belichick.

 

[Love The Drake]

And Fat Patricia

 

[Ring 6]

Anyone with 2 working eyes saw that the defensive plan for the superbowl was flawed. Continuing to blame butler because Bill failed to adjust mid game is asinine.

Bill selected the players that would start, Bill selected the players that would continue to play. Bill watched his defense put up the worst performance in recent superbowl history, and he did NOTHING to try and change it. That's not Butlers fault, that's on Bill "General Custer" Belichick.

It’s completely wrong to say he did nothing to change it.
You wanted him to put in a player who admits he wasn’t ready to play and think not doing that constitutes doing nothing.

 

[signbabybrady]

Anyone with 2 working eyes saw that the defensive plan for the superbowl was flawed. Continuing to blame butler because Bill failed to adjust mid game is asinine.

Bill selected the players that would start, Bill selected the players that would continue to play. Bill watched his defense put up the worst performance in recent superbowl history, and he did NOTHING to try and change it. That's not Butlers fault, that's on Bill "General Custer" Belichick.

Who says he did nothing? They didn't use Butler but they certainly tried other things. Pretty sure we closed the other thread when everyone agreed it was Butler's fault what is with this renewed take. Hahaha.

 

[Wheelman]

You can say this 100,000,000 times.

90% of the fans say it doesn't matter if Malcolm says he wasn't ready. Bill still chose not to put him in, therefore it is Bill's fault the Pats lost the Super Bowl.

You can just quote BB. Coaches loses the game, players wins the game.

 

[signbabybrady]

You can just quote BB. Coaches loses the game, players wins the game.

Seriously, you'd think some team would go with no coaches and just win them all already. So stubborn to insist on coaching.