Malcolm Butler Mega Thread

[Ring 6]

It's all so tiresome.

It must be tiresome to think you are supposed to be judge of the discussion you are having.

 

[Ring 6]

Ah yes Glad to see im not the only one that feels like this when having a discussion with this guy.

Well in your case it’s because you have crappy arguments.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Well in your case it’s because you have crappy arguments.

Ouch sick burn dude.

 

[Boomer B]

Butler admitted he wasn’t prepared.
Players said they knew butler wasn’t working with the 1s and wouldn’t start.
You saw the result of butlers meltdown during the anthem just like I did
Facts.


Everything I said is supported by fact. No rumor at all.


If that’s what you want to believe ok, I don’t think you will find any agreement, but I don’t thnk you understand what facts are.

Huh? You just go in circles and at this point are not making any sense.

In your post I quoted you said “IF it’s true and supported by facts”. Notice how I bolded “IF”?

Now in this post you are skipping the “IF” and saying your comment is fact. Sorry, it’s not. There are many players who have been quoted saying they don’t know why Butler was benched and that they didn’t find out until the game was being played. It’s been reported Butler himself didn’t find out until close to kickoff and that’s why he melted down during the anthem. Brady had no clue and he’s a captain. It was the biggest f up of Belichick’s career and only he knows why.

 

[signbabybrady]

Sigh. A reason that justifies what occurred. Not just a reason. There is a reason for every stupid decision that’s ever been made.

Sigh. I still don't get why people think Bill would bench someone for unjust reasons.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

I think the big mistake was not throwing him out there around half time when the defense was getting wrecked. But, even if he plays we probably don’t win. I can’t believe how much **** Bill gets despite winning us five Lombardi’s. It’s the same guy that cut Milloy and traded Jamie Collins and Richard Seymour. He makes bold moves, sometimes they don’t pay off.

Well the guy that was benched won him one in the last play. I feel he deserves to go out playing on the field in a pats jersey unless he assaulted bill. As a great as bill is i have to say that his defensive tag is very overrated.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Sigh. I still don't get why people think Bill would bench someone for unjust reasons.

Anything less than assault would warrant the benching. Personally i think they had some kind of riff and bill decided to suit him up and not play him. To me that’s embarrassing a guy that literally won you the super bowl on one play. In the end i am glad that butler got his money. He will always be a view as the guy that won us our 4th championship.

 

[Tony2046]

I don’t see any post by me on Page 178...

I was joking. This thread is so long it'd be tough to go back a reference any comments.

 

[Tony2046]

Sigh. A reason that justifies what occurred. Not just a reason. There is a reason for every stupid decision that’s ever been made.

Sigh. hahaha

 

[Tony2046]

Huh? You just go in circles and at this point are not making any sense.

In your post I quoted you said “IF it’s true and supported by facts”. Notice how I bolded “IF”?

Now in this post you are skipping the “IF” and saying your comment is fact. Sorry, it’s not. There are many players who have been quoted saying they don’t know why Butler was benched and that they didn’t find out until the game was being played. It’s been reported Butler himself didn’t find out until close to kickoff and that’s why he melted down during the anthem. Brady had no clue and he’s a captain. It was the biggest f up of Belichick’s career and only he knows why.

I quoted Butler saying he knew he was playing a lesser role. He knew. McCourty said he knew Butler wasn't starting.

 

[Boomer B]

I quoted Butler saying he knew he was playing a lesser role. He knew. McCourty said he knew Butler wasn't starting.

A lesser role doesn’t mean being benched for the game. And the main point I was initially addressing was Andy saying “Butler didn’t take learning the game plan seriously”. That is not a fact. That’s just a wild guess.

 

[aluminum seats]

Sigh. I still don't get why people think Bill would bench someone for unjust reasons.

Because “Bill” is capable of mistakes.

 

[Ring 6]

Huh? You just go in circles and at this point are not making any sense.

In your post I quoted you said “IF it’s true and supported by facts”. Notice how I bolded “IF”?

Now in this post you are skipping the “IF” and saying your comment is fact. Sorry, it’s not. There are many players who have been quoted saying they don’t know why Butler was benched and that they didn’t find out until the game was being played. It’s been reported Butler himself didn’t find out until close to kickoff and that’s why he melted down during the anthem. Brady had no clue and he’s a captain. It was the biggest f up of Belichick’s career and only he knows why.

The facts are the facts. The IF is what those facts mean. Pretty simple actually.
No one knows what happened but my scenario is by far the most plausible given the facts. Unless you want to go full ****** and think B.B. wasn’t trying to win.

 

[Kontradiction]

You don't know why Butler was benched so stop pretending you're in a position to tell us what was or wasn't warranted and what was or wasn't a mistake.

It’s just common sense. If you’ve done something bad enough to be benched for the entire game on defense, you’ve done something bad enough to be benched for the entire game altogether. You don’t dress and have the coach toss you in for a ST snap.

And stop it with nothing warrants benching and dressing. Because something made Bill play it that way.

Just because something made Bill play it that way doesn’t mean it was the right call. Proof is in the pudding, brother. 41 points allowed and a big... fat... L.

 

[Kontradiction]

Because “Bill” is capable of mistakes.

“Bill” has admitted to more of his own mistakes after one game than half of the posters keeping this thread alive have in their entire posting careers. Let that sink in for a minute.

 

[Clonamery]

“Bill” has admitted to more of his own mistakes after one game than half of the posters keeping this thread alive have in their entire posting careers. Let that sink in for a minute.

Sure. But you know why he's not talking about the benching....

 

[Kontradiction]

Sure. But you know why he's not talking about the benching....

Of course. And he never will. That's how he handles the controversial decisions that he makes or the controversial happenings of the team. It'll either be a former player that spills their guts later on or it will come out in some sort of memoir or a report by anonymous sources.

 

[Clonamery]

Of course. And he never will. That's how he handles the controversial decisions that he makes or the controversial happenings of the team. It'll either be a former player that spills their guts later on or it will come out in some sort of memoir or a report by anonymous sources.

Of course.

 

[Ring 6]

A lesser role doesn’t mean being benched for the game. And the main point I was initially addressing was Andy saying “Butler didn’t take learning the game plan seriously”. That is not a fact. That’s just a wild guess.

Butler ADMITTED he wasn’t dialed in to the game plan. That makes it a fact.

 

[Ring 6]

Butler went on to take the blame, saying he probably was not "locked in and focused 100 percent".

“I wasn’t feeling too well," he said. "I felt like that was kind of part of it. Not to blame anybody. I accept full responsibly for myself. I am not blaming the New England Patriots or no one. It could have been just me, you know. It could have been anything, but I was not feeling too well and the New England Patriots are all about doing their job and they want everybody locked in and focused 100 percent and that probably was not the case. I am glad to be a Tennessee Titan.”

Butler: Wasn't 'locked in and focused' for Super Bowl