Mac Jones Injury Video [UPDATE - X-Rays were negative]

[Bruins29]

First we spend high draft capital on Dalton Keene and Devin Assiasi then we allocate 60 million to Hunter Henry and Jonnu Smith

The attempt to rebuild the TE position has been disastrous

What an amazing original post from you

Back to your incel life troll

 

[SVN]

this is how these things take life

 

[slash83]

this is how these things take life

Not watching that bafoon

 

[JayNM]

C'mon Jay, he's got OK speed, faster than most here give him credit for(look it up- he's just starting to get the feel for it) and since when do you have to run anyway?
I swear, Running QB is the flavor of the day, and most of those guys don't last too long.

I respect this take for real, but when I see a RPO, this is what I think:

The miliseconds wasted deciding on either Pass or Run at the time of action HAVE to be made up by another way:

our skill positions aren't the wonders to beat anyone at anytime

our Ol/protection is not good to the point of giving more time than just about needed (not a knock, just saying that our OL isnt a world beater, its doing its job, which is great)

Then comes to the point we disagree I guess: I dont think Mac has this hidden athletic trait, so, unfortunately, you can put me on the team that does not give him this credit. I can change my mind tho, I give it to you: I doubt these 3 weeks of offense are the final product

 

[Patsgofor4]

Looks like there could be a bit of a disconnect between Mac and the team. Bedard followed up the tweet that is out there was saying on the radio Mac is not happy with what has happened since last year and that he is frustrated. The new offensive scheme that hasn't taken off, the new offensive coaches, he has more x-rays then wins. Pats want him back in 4 weeks or so and he is putting the brakes on that and getting the 2nd diagnosis.

Lol. Bedard’s next legit source within the Pats organization will be his first. He fabricates whispers from him supposed sources, in order ensure that his spot on Felger and Mazz is safe. He needs the money and he knows that BB/Patricia/Judge negativity is highly coveted on 98.5.

 

[Real fan 02]

You can say it's hard watching other offenses, but is this only after watching Baltimore's methodical offense?

Because you look around the league and there's a power outage on offense.

I can name 13 teams as inept as the Patriots. More than half the league scores under 20 points a game.

We just played the #1 and #8 offenses.

Kansas city, Buffalo, Baltimore, eagles, do I need to name more? Are those power outages.. until Sunday we averaged 12 ppg.. this never happened under McDaniels or Bill O.. I'm just speaking facts using my eyes. As loyal fan win or loose.. we were fortunate for 2 decades.. the patriots brand is worth 10x as much from 01 until now.. is why us fans are so passionate and want our team to win.. but you have to use the eye test...

 

[gitgronked82]

In general terms, I don't know if with Mac can play it at NFL level optimally, as it requires a at least threatning running QB to have its full effect.

Mac quick decision-making is good for this, sure, but even still it might be too slow for the NFL. Based on what Ive seen so far, of course (and Im not a college guy, so i havent seem his Alabama days)

I certainly disagree that it requires a threatening running qb. Why would it? It only requires processing and quick game accuracy. By the way, we’ve gotten shredded by Nick Foles and Tua doing it. They’re really threatening runners?

For what it’s worth, Mac was quite good at it in college. I think he’s shown the ability to make quick decisions in the NFL, too.

 

[Pats2000]

this is how these things take life

I refuse to click anything with Bedard in it, chances are it's just some **** he made up

 

[203Pat]

What an amazing original post from you

Back to your incel life troll

I don't know why this guy is allowed to post personal insults to any poster he disagrees with.

 

[Bruins29]

I don't know why this guy is allowed to post personal insults to any poster he disagrees with.

 

[JayNM]

I certainly disagree that it requires a threatening running qb. Why would it? It only requires processing and quick game accuracy. By the way, we’ve gotten shredded by Nick Foles and Tua doing it. They’re really threatening runners?

For what it’s worth, Mac was quite good at it in college. I think he’s shown the ability to make quick decisions in the NFL, too.

I put my thoughts to whatjusthappened, regarding the bolded part. I think that the time we lost, as small as it is, makes a difference. Im hoping to be wrong on Mac's case, it could very well be.

But to answer to you specifically, Tua has one of the best receiving corps in the NFL and Foles, to me, is not a starting QB in the NFL, but he went into a mad streak in the playoffs and now he is semi-imortal. Kudos for him and his coaching staff

 

[venecol]

this is how these things take life

Pretty much all of the concerns with the offense that Beddard pointed out during TC have come to pass. He's not a complete fool making stuff up. Honestly, Lazar, Reiss, Daniels, etc. all raised concerns with what they saw from the offense. Their job is to report what they see, not to root blindly for the team. I appreciate honest viewpoints from others given how secretive the Patriots organization is.

If I want uber homer delusional takes like: this team is going 13-4; Pats are a contender; Patricia is a good coach so he can coach anything; Bill is always right & we need to trust him, etc. I'll come to Patsfans.com

 

[gitgronked82]

I put my thoughts to whatjusthappened, regarding the bolded part. I think that the time we lost, as small as it is, makes a difference. Im hoping to be wrong on Mac's case, it could very well be.

But to answer to you specifically, Tua has one of the best receiving corps in the NFL and Foles, to me, is not a starting QB in the NFL, but he went into a mad streak in the playoffs and now he is semi-imortal. Kudos for him and his coaching staff

Sorry, I didn’t really understand this post. I’m still not seeing why you’d think RPO’s require a mobile qb.
Also, Tua beat us with them before having a great receiving corps. RPO’s would actually be a good idea for a team with a LESS talented wr corps. Rather than relying on guys to win 1v1 matchups, you scheme them open by putting defenders in conflict.

 

[upstater1]

Kansas city, Buffalo, Baltimore, eagles, do I need to name more? Are those power outages.. until Sunday we averaged 12 ppg.. this never happened under McDaniels or Bill O.. I'm just speaking facts using my eyes. As loyal fan win or loose.. we were fortunate for 2 decades.. the patriots brand is worth 10x as much from 01 until now.. is why us fans are so passionate and want our team to win.. but you have to use the eye test...

I don't even know what you're saying here.

There are teams that are scoring a lot of points, like the Ravens.

But more than half the league is scoring less than 20 points a game. 13 teams are scoring less than the Patriots.

Isn't that a power outage?

You mentioned KC and Kansas City has an excellent offense, not to mention one of the top 2 QBs in the league, but they scored 17 points this weekend.

So what is it about my point that you don't like?

 

[upstater1]

If this story is true (and there have been several reports of it) that Mac may want to avoid surgery, I wonder what his reasons may be. It'll certainly take longer for him to come back.

Report: Patriots QB Mac Jones seeking second opinion with New York ankle specialist

Patriots quarterback Mac Jones is expected to get a second opinion on his high ankle sprain with Dr. Martin O’Malley of New York’s Hospital for Special Surgery, according to Mike

kdhnews.com

Mac is going to see the guy who performs these surgeries. The 2nd opinion points to Mac EXPLORING the surgery. Not the reverse.

I know I had a disagreement with someone about it just a couple of days ago.

There's a lot of speculation out there about what the Patriots want, what Mac wants, and they may indeed be divergent, but I still think the speculation has it backwards.

The Patriots may feel he can play in 4 weeks even without surgery. That's not a crazy idea. Brady played 2 weeks after a high ankle sprain. Gronk was 3 weeks. Mac's is probably worse than both. But it's not crazy to think Mac will be ready in one month without surgery.

 

[Real fan 02]

I don't even know what you're saying here.

There are teams that are scoring a lot of points, like the Ravens.

But more than half the league is scoring less than 20 points a game. 13 teams are scoring less than the Patriots.

Isn't that a power outage?

You mentioned KC and Kansas City has an excellent offense, not to mention one of the top 2 QBs in the league, but they scored 17 points this weekend.

So what is it about my point that you don't like?

It's relatively easy. Not to agree with what I'm saying shouldn't be confused with you don't know! I'm not here saying any one is wrong or right we are all simply fans of the game.. I'm stating what I see when I watch my team and other NFL teams alike.. just like you are and that's an excellent point you made!

I mentioned Were were averaging prior to the raves game 12 PPG. I was simply referring to the teams with the best records are not having a power outage.. Miami, KC, Buffalo, Ravens, eagles. That's all.

 

[venecol]

Mac is going to see the guy who performs these surgeries. The 2nd opinion points to Mac EXPLORING the surgery. Not the reverse.

I know I had a disagreement with someone about it just a couple of days ago.

There's a lot of speculation out there about what the Patriots want, what Mac wants, and they may indeed be divergent, but I still think the speculation has it backwards.

The Patriots may feel he can play in 4 weeks even without surgery. That's not a crazy idea. Brady played 2 weeks after a high ankle sprain. Gronk was 3 weeks. Mac's is probably worse than both. But it's not crazy to think Mac will be ready in one month without surgery.

Not a single person out there is saying that Mac can play in 4 weeks w/o surgery. You're the only one.

There's an in between scenario that you're ignoring:

1. Pats want him to have surgery;
2. Mac doesn't trust their DRs or the type of surgery they recommend;
3. Mac wants a 2nd opinion to evaluate the type of surgery, the risks both short term & long term, and the need.

If in Mac's mind the difference between a recovery that allows him to play w/ or w/o surgery is 2 to 3 weeks; he may be thinking why take the risks that come w/ the surgery over a couple of weeks.

These takes are all reasonable. Not sure why you're so dead set against the possibility there's disagreement between what the teams wants and what Mac wants.

 

[upstater1]

Not a single person out there is saying that Mac can play in 4 weeks w/o surgery. You're the only one.

There's an in between scenario that you're ignoring:

1. Pats want him to have surgery;
2. Mac doesn't trust their DRs or the type of surgery they recommend;
3. Mac wants a 2nd opinion to evaluate the type of surgery, the risks both short term & long term, and the need.

If in Mac's mind the difference between a recovery that allows him to play w/ or w/o surgery is 2 to 3 weeks; he may be thinking why take the risks that come w/ the surgery over a couple of weeks.

These takes are all reasonable. Not sure why you're so dead set against the possibility there's disagreement between what the teams wants and what Mac wants.

I've heard from lots of people that you can come back in 4. Zolak said it, Eric Wood said it on the Bills radio show.

You're telling me you believe it's impossible or even unlikely that someone comes back in a month from a high ankle sprain?

I think you're wrong.

As for your last line, I said the EXACT opposite of what you claim I said.

 

[h0c2000]

If this story is true (and there have been several reports of it) that Mac may want to avoid surgery, I wonder what his reasons may be. It'll certainly take longer for him to come back.

Report: Patriots QB Mac Jones seeking second opinion with New York ankle specialist

Patriots quarterback Mac Jones is expected to get a second opinion on his high ankle sprain with Dr. Martin O’Malley of New York’s Hospital for Special Surgery, according to Mike

kdhnews.com

Some reasons he might have:

• Surgeries have some degree of risk, from death to minor complications.
• The short term gain of surgery may impact long term function of the ankle versus natural longer healing. He's got a long career & life ahead of him, why rush it for a few games.
• Could have decided on surgery but wants to explore different surgical technique(s)

 

[JackBauer]

What an amazing original post from you

Back to your incel life troll

Not going to argue against that poster being a troll, but in this case they've got a point. The TE approach of late has been less than impressive.