LoMo poll

[DaBruinz]

And, oh btw, this poll is startling when you consider 25% of patriot fans would NOT take the 1st Rd running back on a 12-0 team if they could do it all over again. That, my friends, says it all right there. In fact, the poll says that 75% of Pats fans either would NOT take him or are not SOLD ON HIM after 12 games in year #2. Our team is 12-0 and that many people question the running back??? That's all you need to know about this kid. He flat out sucks. My opinion and I am entitled to it!

Its not startling at all. If you weren't a 1st year troll, you'd know that there were MANY people who thought that the Pats should have taken Manny Lawson, Marcus McNeill or Mathias Kiwanuka during the draft. All that the 2nd option asks is whether you would have taken someone else.

There are 50% of the people who say that its TOO EARLY to tell and they are taking a wait and see attitude. Why should they be sold on him NOW? Because two idiots who are clueless about football say that Maroney isn't living up to expectations? Two guys who have regularly shown that they don't care about counter arguments that rip their "opinions" to shred and show them to be the fools they are?

Yes, you are "entitled" you your opinion. No matter how clueless and uneducated it is. You are ALSO entitled to the repercussions that you incure for voicing that opinion. If you don't like the repercussions, you have one of two choices. STFU and not voice it. Open your mind and actually learn something about the game so you are willing and able to have an educated conversation.

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Oh look Dabruinz melting down all over the place again

LOL! Right? Poor DaBruinz, he gets all upset because somebody says his boy Maroney sucks. Poor guy. He says we don't deal in REALITY, when the REALITY of the matter is Maroney(aka Mr. MEDIOCRE) has been outperformed decidely by Joseph Addai and Jones-Drew. That's a FACT. However, as soon as DaBruinz is done spouting off about REALITY he quickly makes the transition to "MAKE BELIEVE WORLD" where he is quick to say Maroney would be puuting up stats on par with Addai if he had more carries and more playing time. So what is it DaBruinz, is it REALITY(aka FACTS) or MAKE BELIEVE WORLD(aka Assumptions)? Your boy Maroney will struggle to make 1000 yards rushing playing behind arguably the greatest passing attack of all time and NEVER seeing 8 men in a box. That's a FACT son.:singing:

 

[National Sports Advisors]

Its not startling at all. If you weren't a 1st year troll, you'd know that there were MANY people who thought that the Pats should have taken Manny Lawson, Marcus McNeill or Mathias Kiwanuka during the draft. All that the 2nd option asks is whether you would have taken someone else.

There are 50% of the people who say that its TOO EARLY to tell and they are taking a wait and see attitude. Why should they be sold on him NOW? Because two idiots who are clueless about football say that Maroney isn't living up to expectations? Two guys who have regularly shown that they don't care about counter arguments that rip their "opinions" to shred and show them to be the fools they are?

Yes, you are "entitled" you your opinion. No matter how clueless and uneducated it is. You are ALSO entitled to the repercussions that you incure for voicing that opinion. If you don't like the repercussions, you have one of two choices. STFU and not voice it. Open your mind and actually learn something about the game so you are willing and able to have an educated conversation.

Repercusssion????????????? ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, what repercussions? I get to feel the wrath of the big bad DaBruinz on Patsfans.com????? LOL! Good lord, you are so sad!! LMAO!! Dude, I'll talk to your later. I got a HOT DATE tonight baby!!:singing:

 

[danny88]

LOL! Right? Poor DaBruinz, he gets all upset because somebody says his boy Maroney sucks. Poor guy. He says we don't deal in REALITY, when the REALITY of the matter is Maroney(aka Mr. MEDIOCRE) has been outperformed decidely by Joseph Addai and Jones-Drew. That's a FACT. However, as soon as DaBruinz is done spouting off about REALITY he quickly makes the transition to "MAKE BELIEVE WORLD" where he is quick to say Maroney would be puuting up stats on par with Addai if he had more carries and more playing time. So what is it DaBruinz, is it REALITY(aka FACTS) or MAKE BELIEVE WORLD(aka Assumptions)? Your boy Maroney will struggle to make 1000 yards rushing playing behind arguably the greatest passing attack of all time and NEVER seeing 8 men in a box. That's a FACT son.:singing:

I told dabruinz how I could win an argument with him that Manning was the better qb. He comes back and tells me the only stats that matter are wins and superbowls. You know sidestepping those stats like yards, completion percentage, td's etc etc. I dont think Manning is better , and the stats dont matter. But they are there.

How is that for flip flopping? Da bruinz tells us its all about the stats! Then sidesteps the stats. Do you know Trent Dilfer is better then Dan Marino since Dilfer has a sb!?

 

[jman924]

Look!
NSA says something, then Danny agrees right away!
They're two seprate people.

 

[danny88]

Look!
NSA says something, then Danny agrees right away!
They're two seprate people.

Lets make a bet. Check with the owner of this site. If I am NSA I will delete my account and never post here again. If I am not NSA you do the same.


Deal??

 

[DaBruinz]

When is somebody going to answer WHY it is ok to assume Maroney would maintain his 4.3 YPC if he got the ball 18-20 times a game and Kevin Faulk would not???? Somebody tell me why this is? Is it because Maroney is bigger, tougher, what? Maroney is NOT a tough runner so why the hell are we to believe he is better than McGahee who only has a 3.8 on way more carries, but also is the #1 option on the entire offense? Answer me that Maroney apologists. I want to know.

1) Faulk has PROVEN that he's not capable of doing so. All you have to do is perform a cranial/rectal inversion on yourself for 2 minutes and go look at Faulk's stats from when the Patriots tried to make him a starting RB. They make Maroney's look HALL of FAME like.

2) If you look at the game logs, there have been 10 games where Maroney has gotten the ball more than 15 times and you'll see that in 7 of 10 games, Maroney was VERY productive.

Now, why is it that you say that Maroney is not as tough a runner as Faulk? Please don't point to Maroney's injuries because I will point out that Faulk has missed 22 games over his career and has missed at least one game in each of the past 7 seasons due to injury.

 

[jman924]

Lets make a bet. If I am NSA I will delete my account. If NSA is not me you delete your account?


Deal??

No. Because you wouldn't hold up your end of the bargin.:singing:

 

[DaBruinz]

The colts system eh?

It must be our system!!?? Zone blocking , just like Maroney had in college where he thrived! Our system gets maroney his ypc. In a less explosive O maroney would have a 3.4 ypc just like NSA said.

1st off, the O-linemen are new at this blocking scheme. They've had trouble grasping it. Why do you think its taken OVER a year to get it fully implemented. And its still not perfect. Its at least a step below the Colts run blocking ability.

2ndly, Unless you can see alternate realities, and neither you nor NSA have that ability, its pure preculation on your part that Maroney would have only a 3.4 YPC.

 

[DaBruinz]

Is there a way to compute how many of the total rushing yards accumulated after we where up by 14 + points?

*ROFLMAO* You tried this BS tactic in your "GLASS MARONEY" thread and I tore it to pieces, showing you that there was only 77 more yards run in the 2nd half of games in comparison to the 1st half of games.. Yet, you had claimed that MOST of the Pats rushing yards had been gained in GARBAGE time.

1) You refused to establish what you meant by garbage time.
2) You refused to do the homework to see if your stated hypothesis had any validity even when all the information was provided to you.

You just can't accept that you and NSA are clueless about Maroney.

 

[danny88]

No. Because you wouldn't hold up your end of the bargin.:singing:

Nice excuse. Come on jman put your money where you mouth is.

 

[DaBruinz]

Why can't you ANSWER my question?
When is somebody going to answer WHY it is ok to assume Maroney would maintain his 4.3 YPC if he got the ball 18-20 times a game and Kevin Faulk would not???? Somebody tell me why this is? Is it because Maroney is bigger, tougher, what? Maroney is NOT a tough runner so why the hell are we to believe he is better than McGahee who only has a 3.8 on way more carries, but also is the #1 option on the entire offense? Answer me that Maroney apologists. I want to know.

Why should anyone answer your questions when you don't answer theirs.

Its your OPINION that Maroney isn't a tough runner. Yet, when you look at the games where Maroney had more than 15 touches, only 3 games stand out as being unproductive.

Faulk has PROVEN that he's not able to carry the load. He never was. Its why the Pats went out and signed Antowain Smith just 2 years after making Faulk a 2nd round pick.

No one has said that Maroney is BETTER than McGahee. You make that assumption because your too stupid to realize that the world isn't black and white. Just because I don't think Maroney "SUCKS" the way you do, doesn't mean I think he's better than McGahee. I know that Maroney is 22 years old, is still learning aspects of the game and is NOT being asked to carry the offense because they don't NEED him to carry the offense.

The problem is that you think that when a person says that you should look at Maroney's YPC as a sign of how good he is doing that you can make the comparison to another player who plays in an entirely different offense and is FORCED to carry the team. Not to mentiont that the Ravens don't use zone blocking.

 

[A.C Vegas]

The Problem with NSTroll and Danny is that they are mad that no one else is saying Maroney sucks and that is making them upset. The thing is that many people think he might be average but most of them also think that he can be great. NSTroll and Danny are already throwing the towel on Maroney because they see other player putting up the big number while LoMo doesn't. It just that in our system he doesn't need to put up big numbers. We don't know what he could do if he had to. I am tired of hearing the stat arguement on both sides. Just look at what he as done with out lookng at the number or what the media says and judge for yourself.

 

[jman924]

Nice excuse. Come on jman put your money where you mouth is.

No. Not gonna do it.
You couldn't convince me that you two are different people anyway.
It's my OPINION that you two are the same person. Therfore, I will tell it as FACT in spite of all evidence to the opposite.

Sound familiar?

 

[DaBruinz]

Ok so if stats do not have to be used to prove who is the best ever. Why cant the people who dont like Maroney form the opinion watching Maroney run? You guys seem to think your stats prove your argument but when used in a different context they dont matter.

Tenative tap dancer comes to mind when watching Lo Mo run.

The difference is that people like Deus Irae and myself do not look at things in a vacuum. We look at all the other factors. Something you haven't done and have said you REFUSE to do.

The STATS, when put into CONTEXT with the rest of the arguments presented show that you and NSA don't know wtf you are talking about when it comes to Maroney.

 

[danny88]

No. Not gonna do it.
You couldn't convince me that you two are different people anyway.
It's my OPINION that you two are the same person. Therfore, I will tell it as FACT in spite of all evidence to the opposite.

Sound familiar?

Thats what I thought.

 

[jman924]

Thats what I thought.

Don't lie now!:singing:

 

[DaBruinz]

Hijacking thread after thread? The last thread I posted in about Maroney was the thread that brought up criticism and rumors from the Media about Maroney. I didnt start the thread. I didnt "diss" anyone.

LIAR. You created a "Thank god for Kevin Faulk" Thread and then you ALSO posted in the "Thank god for Laurence Maroney" thread. Then you posted THIS thread.

There is no thread hijacking going on in a thread about Maroney.Get off your high horse.

You, most certainly, did hijack the "Thank God for Laurence Maroney" Thread.

I had a mod start a thread about how much of an idiot I am. Not once have I ever insulted someone for no reason. Don't tell me about how to post. You don't want to hear how some are not happy about Maroney in threads dedicated to him? A dead horse eh?

Its ok when people rave about how great we are, or how great Tommy or Moss is over and over and over. Thats ok though. Exactly , hypocritical.

People don't want to hear the same IDIOTIC schtic from you and NSA that have been torn to shreds in thread after thread.

 

[danny88]

LIAR. You created a "Thank god for Kevin Faulk" Thread and then you ALSO posted in the "Thank god for Laurence Maroney" thread. Then you posted THIS thread.



You, most certainly, did hijack the "Thank God for Laurence Maroney" Thread.




People don't want to hear the same IDIOTIC schtic from you and NSA that have been torn to shreds in thread after thread.

Liar? Nice try dabruinz. I created a thank god for Kevin Faulk thread because I was thanking god for Faulk at the time. The Maroney thread was started as a rebuttle to the Faulk thread. Insecure mutch?

At the start of this thread I asked for it to remain civil. You and your anger problems derailed it. Seriously its odd how worked up you get. You derail every Maroney thread with your rage filled posts and insults. Proof? Just read this thread start to finish. You come rushing in like a drunk angry at the world.



Da bruinz making things up again while in a rage

 

[DaBruinz]

Addai has had a reception in 25 of his 27 career games, has accounted for 100 all purpose yards or more in 12 out his 27 games, and has scored 19 touchdowns in his 27 games. Addai had a 4.8 YPC on 226 carries last year and has a 4.2 YPC on 223 carries this year.

He's on a team where he is NOW the primary back and gets 3 times the carries as his back-up.

Also, you fail to mention that, last year, he had a healthy Reggie Wayne, Marvin Harrison, their LT who retired. OH, and Addai was 23 and had played 5 years in a similar offense.

Addai runs in a 2 back set.

Maroney has only had a reception in 11 of his 22 games, has accounted for 100 all purposes yards or more in just 5 of his 22 games, and has scored just 9 TD's in 22 games. Maroney had a 4.3 YPC last year on 175 carries and has a 4.3 YPC this year on 118 carries.

Maroney is 22 this year with an O-line that is still learning the blocking scheme. Last year, he didn't have the explosive passing offense and the running plays and passing plays were very similar (527 pass to 499 run). This year, the pass to run ratio is going to projected to be significantly different (581 pass to 475 run).

Also, your stat for all purpose yards is WRONG. ALL-PURPOSE includes RETURN YARDS. And Maroney has 13 games where he's gone over 100 yards. Not 5.

Maroney runs in a MULTI-BACK set where Maroney is NOT the 3rd down back and where the Pats make sure the #2 back gets carries as well.

Those are your stats. When the Colts offense was HEALTHY, Addai showed why he is a STUD with a great 4.8 YPC. That's what STUDS do when they run behind GREAT pasing games. Robert Smith, Marshall Faulk, and Edgerrin James all had great YPC numbers when they played on 3 of the best offenses of all time. What Maroney is doing running behind a GREAT PASING GAME that is 100% healthy is put up the type of numbers that any AVERAGE back could do. I guess the Maroney PR team is going to tell us next that the Colts have a better run blocking o-line than ours? Puhleaze.

Addai shows what he can do with 2 more years experience over Maroney.

The other guys all showed what they could do with 6+ years experience in the league and what they could do as the PRIMARY RB with the back-up getting carries every now and then..

BTW, MORON, Robert Smith had 31 carries for 103 yards his 2nd season.