Let's face it... The 2007 Giants are like the ultimate turd in the punch bowl.

[cmasspatsfan]

Of course you do...lol
Sorry you took offense it was meant in the very best of Boston sports humor,. Any Boston fan over 40 would understand. With the stuff I've seen you post I mistook you for someone with a sense of humor. One would expect a "bigger Boston sports fan" to have one...along with a thicker skin. I for one freely admit to being a masochist for loving the Sox for all the years prior to '04, likewise with Jeremy Jacobs version of our Bruins pre salary cap. Prior to Kraft's arrival on the Boston sports ownership scene the commitment to winning championships was seriously lacking.

I don't think the Sullivans suffered from lack of want, they suffered from lack of knowing what the flock they were doing.

 

[Joker]

I don't think the Sullivans suffered from lack of want, they suffered from lack of knowing what the flock they were doing.

 

[dafoe2016]

What is it with all this talk of the the Giants lately and the 2007 gag job? They were in three Superbowls in the 00s sandwiched between nearly two decades of barely peeking above .500 and are currently a train wreck. They are irrelevant and 2007 was a decade ago. If you had a nine year old back then, they are old enough to vote, smoke cigarettes , they have probably been driving for years and are eligible to join the military and go to war. Let it go. It happened eons ago.

 

[Richard Camembert]

All right, tell us the story Joker, cuz it looks like Pat Sullivan absorbing a massive haymaker for some reason.

 

[maust]

I don't think the Sullivans suffered from lack of want, they suffered from lack of knowing what the flock they were doing.

When it comes to the football version of ownership commitment to winning I was thinking more of that fraud Kiam and the wannabe carpetbagger Orthwein. The Sullivan's cared about winning, having any idea how to do it or go about building a culture around it on the other hand...
Only the Sullivan's could have started a team with $25k of their own money sold it for $85m and ended up bankrupt.

 

[mosslost]

Of course you do...lol
Sorry you took offense it was meant in the very best of Boston sports humor,. Any Boston fan over 40 would understand. With the stuff I've seen you post I mistook you for someone with a sense of humor. One would expect a "bigger Boston sports fan" to have one...along with a thicker skin. I for one freely admit to being a masochist for loving the Sox for all the years prior to '04, likewise with Jeremy Jacobs version of our Bruins pre salary cap. Prior to Kraft's arrival on the Boston sports ownership scene the commitment to winning championships was seriously lacking.

sadly I'm older than you

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Luckiest teams ever. Sure all champions get their share of luck but eli’s Giants had exactly 2 deep playoff runs all these years and both were met with crazy fortune.

I can live with say the steelers getting lucky with brady’s injury and facing 8-8 /9-7 teams in the playoffs, and those officials in the sb against Seattle, because at least they had consistently been getting deep since the early 90s and coming up short.... at least they can say they were ‘due’ for some fortune. Same can maybe be said for the recent ravens/broncos titles. I give the giants credit for putting themselves in the position to win those games but quite honestly theyre the luckiest team ive seen.

 

[mosslost]

LOL, that's as appropriate as it gets. Because you are the turd in the punchbowl. How these chumps around here respond to you as if you're legitimate is beyond me.

LMAO @Jackson 2 OMG lol!! haha

 

[TB12GOATQB]

2014 and 2016 titles exorcised the demons for me, 8ncluding Edelman’s catch last year.....still frustrating that they could have added that and a perfect 19-0to the sparkling resume, but the pain is largely subsided. Clearly still gnaws at Brady significantly though which isn’t surprising.

Weird thread to post today though.

 

[mosslost]

They didn't deserve to go 19-0.

umm.... what??

 

[mosslost]

if you don't win the Super Bowl you simply weren't as good as everyone assumed.

"wrong"

 

[maust]

sadly I'm older than you

Your no chicken then, lol.
My 1st Pats game was their home opener against Miami at Fenway in'67. They lit 'em up and I was hooked. Sadly it proved to be far from the norm...

 

[mosslost]

Your no chicken then, lol.
My 1st Pats game was their home opener against Miami at Fenway in'67. They lit 'em up and I was hooked. Sadly it proved to be from the norm...

exactly

 

[Richard Camembert]

Although I’m glad to see you followed my suggestion you try alcohol, come on, man, take a look at the scoreboard for that game. The Giants won, and, they beat a team headed for 19-0, yet here you are taking a dump on what they accomplished. At least you didn’t complain about missed holding calls, but still, NYG were better on that day.

 

[Richard Camembert]

All right, tell us the story Joker, cuz it looks like Pat Sullivan absorbing a massive haymaker for some reason.

N/m...interesting story though: https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadsp...-general-manager-pat-sullivan-in-the-head/amp

 

[Joker]

Long, Millen Scuffle With Patriots' GM


Long, Millen Scuffle With Patriots' GM
January 06, 1986| Associated Press

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A brief scuffle erupted Sunday following the New England Patriots' AFC playoff victory over the Raiders when Raider players Howie Long and Matt Millen confronted New England General Manager Patrick Sullivan.

Sullivan's father, Patriots owner Billy Sullivan, attributed the fracas to bad blood between his family and Al Davis, managing general partner of the Raiders.

According to both Sullivans and Long, Patrick Sullivan spent a good part of New England's 27-20 victory heckling Long, a native of Boston, for remarks he was quoted as making about the Patriots' organization in Boston newspapers last week.

"Sullivan was yelling at me throughout the game from the New England sidelines. He's the jellyfish of Foxboro," said the 6-foot-5, 275-pound Long, who also referred to the Patriots' general manager as "a wimp" and "spineless."


"At the end of the game I walked up and faked like I was going to hit him to make him squirm," Long said. "I wish there weren't laws to protect this guy."

Said Sullivan: "I wasn't yelling at him the whole game, I was only yelling at him half the game." Sullivan said that as he was talking to Long outside the runway leading to the locker rooms, Millen, a 250-pound linebacker, came up behind him and struck him on the back of the head with a helmet.

"I was seeing a couple of stars and my players pulled me away," said the 33-year-old Sullivan, who is of average size.

"Was I going to go after him? That would be pretty silly."

Billy Sullivan, meanwhile, suggested that Long's attitude was the result of an attitude handed down by Davis. Sullivan was one of the most vocal opponents to Davis' move of the Raiders from Oakland to Los Angeles in 1982.

"I'm disappointed they have to reach that low ebb," Billy Sullivan said of the Raiders' players. "I think it reflects the character of the guy on top--Davis."

But Long said his attitude had nothing to do with the conflict between the owners.

"I don't know the father," he said. "I just think he (Patrick) is a classless slob."

 

[Pessimistic Pete]

umm.... what??

The Patriots had a 4 point lead with 2:39 left.

All they had to do was not allow Eli ****ing Manning go 83 Yards down the field and win the game

They didn't, therefore, they didn't deserve to go 19-0.

It was all right there for them, they couldn't sack Eli, Rodney couldn't prevent Tyree from catching that ball, Asante couldn't get the INT, Hobbs got embarrassed by Plaxico. Considering what was on the line and who the opponent was, that was the biggest one-drive defensive choke in Super Bowl history.

 

[captain stone]

Only a masochist goes there the night before Brady summits Olympus to evict Jordan and sit alone as the greatest team sport athlete of the modern era. Not to mention shutting up the squeelers about having 'one more than the rest.'
You must have been lost when the Sox reversed the curse.

Of course you do...lol
Sorry you took offense it was meant in the very best of Boston sports humor,. Any Boston fan over 40 would understand. With the stuff I've seen you post I mistook you for someone with a sense of humor. One would expect a "bigger Boston sports fan" to have one...along with a thicker skin. I for one freely admit to being a masochist for loving the Sox for all the years prior to '04, likewise with Jeremy Jacobs version of our Bruins pre salary cap. Prior to Kraft's arrival on the Boston sports ownership scene the commitment to winning championships was seriously lacking.

If you are indeed a Boston sports fan over 40, then you should know that Bill Russell is the greatest team sport athlete of this, or any, era.

 

[captain stone]

They were very fortunate Neal had to leave the game. That destabilized the entire OL and had a domino effect. Brady would have still been under pressure even with him in there, but nothing like that. I’m convinced that’s where the Pats lost the game.

Losing Neal obviously didn't help, but the Pats lost the game on 2 plays:

Pierre Woods not securing the fumbled handoff between shEli & Ahmad Bradshaw deep in vaGiants territory during the 2nd quarter;

And Brady getting sacked on 3rd down, then Bill & Skippy going for 4th/13 instead of attempting an admittedly long (but still < 50 yards) FG during the 3rd quarter.

 

[mosslost]

Luckiest teams ever. Sure all champions get their share of luck but eli’s Giants had exactly 2 deep playoff runs all these years and both were met with crazy fortune.

I can live with say the steelers getting lucky with brady’s injury and facing 8-8 /9-7 teams in the playoffs, and those officials in the sb against Seattle, because at least they had consistently been getting deep since the early 90s and coming up short.... at least they can say they were ‘due’ for some fortune. Same can maybe be said for the recent ravens/broncos titles. I give the giants credit for putting themselves in the position to win those games but quite honestly theyre the luckiest team ive seen.

Both Giant Super Bowls (and the Jets 2010) are the reasons I stopped rooting for how the other playoff winners were (unless it determined us being home or away.. I guess even 2012 falls into this category with the Ravens beating the Broncos... grr)