Patriots Player Departure Jimmy Garoppolo traded to SF for 2018 2nd round draft pick

[mgteich]

BTW, according to the SF 49ers, the SF 49ers tried to trade for JAG this past offseason.

Yup, that was speculated in the offseason. We likely got the same compensation, after getting 8 months of insurance form JAG.

 

[Love The Drake]

Here is my guess on what happened: BB wanted to keep Jimmy G in case TB fell off a cliff. In the meantime, they were asking for a first ( Future stud QB draft) for J.G. Brissett would've been the backup in 2017. They got no offers for JG they liked, Brissett was traded. The plan was to keep TB and JG all season. Alas, SF calls and offers up the best package they can probably get ( They probably knew no team would offer up a first). They take the offer because GOAT is still playing elite and JG likely would've walked ( Because they weren't going to move on from Brady) for nothing in the offseason. BB probably believes they are screwd either way ( Hoyer or JG) if Brady goes down. The plan is to ride him out and get as many SB's as possible.

How far off do y'all think I am? Close?

Maybe, what do you think about Riley Ferguson?

I haven't watched him much can he make all the throws or is he mostly a rocket Arm?

 

[Pats1989]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

 

[italian pat patriot]

this is one of the few times i am really shocked and i did not absolutely expected it...

 

[Deus Irae]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

 

[Bradyking12]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

I think BB can do whatever at this point even trade Kraft

 

[Tunescribe]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

BB certainly has proven himself capable of such things.

 

[meatface]

Maybe BB didn't like Jimmy's preseason so much?

Would have also liked a player to be named.. now

they tried to sign him to an extension and I think they knew they were going to lose him for nothing.

 

[ivanvamp]

I don't think this is very complicated. A lot of moving parts, but not very complicated.

1. Belichick drafted JG in the late 2nd round (#62) in 2014 thinking he could be Brady's successor. Really liked him coming out of college.

2. As Brady was going to be suspended for the start of 2016, BB needed another QB, so he drafted Brissett, another QB he liked. I'm sure he wasn't thinking that Jacoby would need to play 2.5 games at the start of the year.

3. During this past offseason, BB evaluated all three QBs. Brissett was a fine backup, but maybe BB didn't think he was going to be good enough to be the next guy for them. Or at least...they could find another guy as good as him relatively easily, and when a guy like Dorsett became available, he was good with the deal. Brady, meanwhile, hit an age where BB might have become skeptical that he could keep up his current production level. He considered dealing JG, and had some offers, but nothing blew him away. Combine those two factors, and he thought it best to keep JG around, at least until the last possible moment when he could trade him.

4. Brady continued to defy every law known to man and has played at a superhuman level. That gave BB confidence in making a trade. Meanwhile, JG provided Brady with top-notch insurance, as he had been really good last year for them.

5. When SF's offer came up, BB knew it was his last shot to get something of value for JG. That he could move him to the NFC was a bonus.

So the Pats used the #62 pick to draft a quality backup that played a huge role in their championship in 2016 and provided quality insurance for Brady the past couple of years. They then traded him for what will likely be the 33rd or 34th pick in the 2018 draft.

So like I said, lots of moving parts, but I don't think it is that complicated. BB did a great job as GM handling the JG situation. Now they need to find a quality backup again, as well as Brady's successor.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

SF sports radio KNBR 680 is generally positive about the trade, but not overwhelmingly so. Goes for both hosts and callers.

Regards,
Chris

 

[Ring 6]

You've got to be kidding. These three links just scratch the surface on all the speculation over JG possibly being franchised. READ, and be informed:

Jimmy Garoppolo rumors: ESPN's Adam Schefter does not think New England Patriots QB will leave after season

Why Adam Schefter Believes Jimmy Garoppolo Will Be On Patriots In 2018

Could Patriots use franchise tag on in 2018?

You are joking right?
You sad it was reported by schefter and others that the patriots considered using the tag and you give me 2 articles with schefter saying he thinks he will stay BY SIGNING A CONTRACT with no mention of the tag and another speculation by some unknown guy at “the score” doing the math of whether they could?

If that’s what you got then you just proved you are wrong that it was reported thatvthe patriots were considering using the tag.

No one knows for sure but the Patriots. Could be because it would've hamstrung them in free agency.

Which is one reason they would never do it.

Could be because JG no longer wants to sit.

Wouldn’t be up to him if they tag him.

Could be because BB wanted to do it and Kraft said no.

Could be because the moon is made of green cheese too.

I have absolutely no lack of faith in Brady, he has been the greatest for many years and still is. Believe it or not, it's possible to revere Brady and acknowledge JG's potential for what it is.

If course it is, that’s what I’ve done.

You somehow seem incapable of that. In fact, you're looking more irrational with each successive post. Who is YOUR backup? Better get him warming up!

The backup is hoyer.

OR, JG forced it by breaking off contract talks and demanding to get a shot at starting -- somewhere -- in 2018.

Which was always the case and why he wasn’t staying.

NBSBH just reported BB had been meeting weekly with JG even during this season. I think you've misjudged BB's interest in him.

Omg he met with his player. How unusual.

Purely media speculation, but it also has been suggested that BB was so sold on JG that he was open to moving on from Brady in 2018 but Kraft overruled this because he promised Brady he'll be a Patriot for life. I'm only passing along what I heard via media. Not my opinion or hope, but possibly true.

I call BS. This is a lie. Show me the source or put a sock in it. Have some freaking integrity.

So if you're admitting he was heir apparent, doesn't that elevate his status in the organization above a mere backup? They certainly acted that way.

No because he was the backup. The next backup is the next heir apparent.
How did they act like he was different than the backup? When his contract was running out he was dealt. Like a backup.

Does that make BB an idiot for trying to resign him? JG did force BB's hand by putting him in a position of having to deal him now for reasonable compensation. Actually, a solid argument could've been made for keeping JG for the balance of this season regardless.

You've got to be kidding. These three links just scratch the surface on all the speculation over JG possibly being franchised. READ, and be informed:

Jimmy Garoppolo rumors: ESPN's Adam Schefter does not think New England Patriots QB will leave after season

Why Adam Schefter Believes Jimmy Garoppolo Will Be On Patriots In 2018

Could Patriots use franchise tag on Garoppolo in 2018?

No one knows for sure but the Patriots. Could be because it would've hamstrung them in free agency. Could be because JG no longer wants to sit. Could be because BB wanted to do it and Kraft said no.

I have absolutely no lack of faith in Brady, he has been the greatest for many years and still is. Believe it or not, it's possible to revere Brady and acknowledge JG's potential for what it is. You somehow seem incapable of that. In fact, you're looking more irrational with each successive post. Who is YOUR backup? Better get him warming up!

OR, JG forced it by breaking off contract talks and demanding to get a shot at starting -- somewhere -- in 2018. NBSBH just reported BB had been meeting weekly with JG even during this season. I think you've misjudged BB's interest in him.

Purely media speculation, but it also has been suggested that BB was so sold on JG that he was open to moving on from Brady in 2018 but Kraft overruled this because he promised Brady he'll be a Patriot for life. I'm only passing along what I heard via media. Not my opinion or hope, but possibly true.

So if you're admitting he was heir apparent, doesn't that elevate his status in the organization above a mere backup? They certainly acted that way.

Does that make BB an idiot for trying to resign him?

Nope, he did his job. He would have been an idiot to keep trying through the offseason.

JG did force BB's hand by putting him in a position of having to deal him now for reasonable compensation. Actually, a solid argument could've been made for keeping JG for the balance of this season regardless.

No the contract expiration forced his hand.
Hoyer holding a clipboard plus a 2nd is better than jimmy holding a clipboard.

 

[Ring 6]

BB certainly has proven himself capable of such things.

No he has not proven himself capable of idiocy.

 

[Ring 6]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

Actually you are just making up something out of thin air

 

[PatsDeb]

I think that's the key thing in BB's thinking and the thing that changed from the spring.

In the spring I think they kept JG because:
1) They felt the team was good enough for a very deep run even if Brady went down and JG had to take over for several games/rest of the year.
2) They were hoping they could get a bridge deal done.

Now here we are at the trading deadline. JG rejected any bridge deal. And the team isn't as good/deep as everyone hoped back in the spring. I think BB has concluded they they are screwed with anyone other than Brady -- which greatly lowers the insurance value of JG. So given that there's no realistic deep run w/o Brady and given that JG is gone at the end of this season, may as well trade him now and get something.

Reluctantly, I have to agree. Although you've got to wonder how they ever thought they'd get a bridge deal done. They must have thought there was some hope even when they traded Brisette away for basically nothing (at least until this point).

 

[Pats1989]

Actually you are just making up something out of thin air

I'm not saying anything for fact. I am simply speculating like the rest are.

 

[BadMoFo]

 

[Hammer of Thor]

What if BB had a deal for JG and was planning to release Brady in the offseason? Maybe Kraft squashed it and said Brady stays as long as he wants. Or maybe I'm stretching...

You're in luck! There is a (now practice squad) thread where noted Bob Woodward-like NBC Golf Channel reporter Ryan Burr says that a major source told him that Kraft forced Belichick to keep Brady for the rest of his career and trade Jimmy G.
Kraft Forced Belichick to Trade JG

 

[JayNM]

I disliked the trade when it was announced, but if there wasnt a way to keep JG and Brady, then there's really nothing to complain... BB made the sensible choice

 

[Bradyking12]

And I thought this bye week would be a bore fest

 

[1960Pats]

Well, my father who is a LONG time 49ers fan is completely ecstatic. So at least I can be happy for him!

I'm happy for your father and the Pats.