I'm Finally Convinced: This is Brady's Last Year in New England

[venecol]

If this is the case and they’re planning to let him walk at the end of the season, they’ve done a terrible job of managing their options, and I think it would be disappointing. One more season gives them the best chance for another chance at the SB, allows Tom to likely retire a NEP, and most importantly, allows the team to have a better plan moving forward.

I agree with you, but you're not convincing @smessy. He is finally convinced this is Brady's last year in NE because he resigned from the local charity. Reality is reality.

 

[goheels22002]

You're saying the only way Pats go to SB is if AFCCG is at NE hosting the Bills? I suppose the Bills have a 10% chance of going to CG, so anything is possible.

Not the only way, but beating KC and Baltimore back-to-back will be very difficult unless the offense can mount time-consuming drives and score TDs rather than field goals. The Bills could be very helpful this post-season.

 

[supafly]

Look, I hope it all works out, he wins SB 54, 55 and 56 as a Patriot and retires in training camp of August 2022 one day after he turns 45 so he can say he fulfilled his TB12 business plan promise of age 45.

Still, I think Tom Sr. was correct.

I think one more shot at the Super Bowl next year is realistic. It would also give both parties more time to prepare. I’m simply not convinced that any other QB gives them the best chance to win, and I think all of Kraft, Belichick, and Brady realize that the window is slamming shut.

 

[mgteich]

so, your assumption is that Brady 2020 and Defense 2020 will be as good as this year?

So you aren't convinced he's done? Good. I was starting to worry about you.

The fact that Brady has taken the Pats to 12-3 without blocking, TEs or WRs is quite an accomplishment. Belichick and Kraft would be fools to let him go.

 

[mgteich]

Why do you think that we are better off by replacing Brady in 2021 instead of 2020? I guess that we draft a QB and expect him to start in 2021. It seems likely that we would sign a top vet like Bridgewater and pay two quarterbacks $20M or $25M a year.

As an aside, it seems that we are presuming that the decision is the patriots to make. I suspect that if Brady doesn't like the team's plan (e.g sign a Bridgewater), he might simply sign up to play elsewhere.

If this is the case and they’re planning to let him walk at the end of the season, they’ve done a terrible job of managing their options, and I think it would be disappointing. One more season gives them the best chance for another chance at the SB, allows Tom to likely retire a NEP, and most importantly, allows the team to have a better plan moving forward.

 

[Ring 6]

How is it different this time?? He wasn’t 43 years old in any of those examples.

Belichick almost pulled the trigger 3 seasons ago. Thankfully he didn’t then.

Reality is reality.

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Belichick did not almost pull the trigger 3 years ago. That is debunked fake news.

 

[supafly]

Why do you think that we are better off by replacing Brady in 2021 instead of 2020? I guess that we draft a QB and expect him to start in 2021. It seems likely that we would sign a top vet like Bridgewater and pay two quarterbacks $20M or $25M a year.

As an aside, it seems that we are presuming that the decision is the patriots to make. I suspect that if Brady doesn't like the team's plan (e.g sign a Bridgewater), he might simply sign up to play elsewhere.

I don’t know anything about signing Teddy Bridgewater, so I’m not sure where that came from, but it seems more than reasonable to assume that they would dedicate more draft resources in either 2020, or even the spring of 2021. It would also give last year’s draft selection, Jarret Stidham, another year to prepare.

Most importantly, it allows the Patriots organization one last bite at the apple in 2020, and it also likely allows Tom Brady to retire a New England Patriot, rather than this talk of watching him slink off to LA.

 

[supafly]

so, your assumption is that Brady 2020 and Defense 2020 will be as good as this year?

It’s not far fetched to think that 2020 Brady might be an improvement, considering his injuries this year, lack of running game, issues on the OL, lack of a TE, and piss poor receiving options.

 

[venecol]

In all fairness to @smessy, who I've been busting his balls in this thread , there is a possibility that TB does leave the NEP next year. His current contract situation is unique, where he is a FA in March 2020. There are a number of other factors discussed here and elsewhere that lend credence to the possibility as well.

It is anybody's guess what happens. I'm not sure even TB knows since he's probably just focused on this season. It will also obviously depend on the outcome of the postseason. Does he bother to come back if he wins a 7th SB? Will he want to retire if they don't make the SB? Does he leave his team, the Pats in a bind at QB by leaving w/o them having a proper transition plan (giving Stidham another year, if in fact he's the guy). Who knows, but this last point makes me think he stays one more year.

 

[shmessy]

Belichick did not almost pull the trigger 3 years ago. That is debunked fake news.

Debunked by whom?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

It’s not far fetched to think that 2020 Brady might be an improvement, considering his injuries this year, lack of running game, issues on the OL, lack of a TE, and piss poor receiving options.

The great cellist Pablo Casals at age 90-something was asked why he still practices hours every day. Casals said "I think I'm improving."

 

[shmessy]

The great cellist Pablo Casals at age 90-something was asked why he still practices hours every day. Casals said "I think I'm improving."

Did he face pressure up the middle?

 

[IcyPatriot]

Okay so who is ready for Brady's last regular season game at Gillette?

Or no? Not ready and looking for a No More Brady support group.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Did he face pressure up the middle?

At his age probably leakage in the middle.

 

[mgteich]

OK, so you are assuming that if we keep Brady, we won't bring in young vet with a long term contract.

OK, you think that Stidham has a reasonable shot at being our #1.

I just disagree with both plans. However, both are variations of what we seem to be doing: wait until Brady leaves and then go forward with whatever we have.

I don’t know anything about signing Teddy Bridgewater, so I’m not sure where that came from, but it seems more than reasonable to assume that they would dedicate more draft resources in either 2020, or even the spring of 2021. It would also give last year’s draft selection, Jarret Stidham, another year to prepare.

Most importantly, it allows the Patriots organization one last bite at the apple in 2020, and it also likely allows Tom Brady to retire a New England Patriot, rather than this talk of watching him slink off to LA.

 

[aluminum seats]

I understand the Pats going year to year at this point, because Brady is at the age where eventually he won’t be effective. So when that happens, and it can happen quickly, you don’t have a whole other season to worry about.

Beyond that, what’s changed? Brady says he wants to play to 45, his salary is reasonable, you can win a Super Bowl with him and there isn’t any great rookie quarterback on the bench ready to leave.

Next year should just be a redo of this year. And the year after that too, if we’re having this same conversation next year. People worry too much.

 

[supafly]

OK, so you are assuming that if we keep Brady, we won't bring in young vet with a long term contract.

OK, you think that Stidham has a reasonable shot at being our #1.

I just disagree with both plans. However, both are variations of what we seem to be doing: wait until Brady leaves and then go forward with whatever we have.

All I’m suggesting is that they’ll have their opportunity to use some draft resources in the next two drafts, assuming Brady stays for one more year in 2020. In the meantime, they can also try and develop Stidham.

I would see zero reason to bring in a free agent vet like Bridgewater, who’s going to command a top dollar deal from some team who’s willing to give him 25m+ a year to be their starter. The starting price for Bridgewater would likely be a big, multi-year deal. If that’s our “solution,” then why not just pay Tom Brady?

 

[lancerman]

There's nowhere good for Brady to go next year.

Team by team.

Jets are rolling with Darnold. It would also destroy his legacy in NE
Bills are rolling with Allen, it would destroy his legacy in NE.
Dolphins are drafting and are not a good team right now.

Steelers will have Ben back.
Ravens have Lamar and aren't giving up the raining MVP for a 42 year old Brady
Bengals sucks and Brady wouldn't want to go there.
Browns are a dumpster fire franchise.

Jaguars are the pits
Colts, maybe but that's kind of the only good fit and does he want to go to a place where he will be in Peyton's shadow? Indy is like the one place that prefers Peyton over him.
Texans have Watson.
Titans are finding success with Tannehill who has better longterm prospects if he works out.

Chargers maybe if Rivers retires but does Brady want to play in unfilled stadiums in a city that doesn't want his team?
Raiders, something tells me the appeal of playing in Vegas doesn't track with him. Also not ready to win
Broncos are bad and they are trying out Lock. Again same situation applies as Indy
Chiefs, have Mahomes, it's a non starter.

Packers have Rodgers
Vikings have Cousins and I don't think they will jettison that for him.
Bears, maybe but they don't have much offensive talent and I don't see that as a great situation for him.
Lions' can't see them ditching Stafford for Brady.

Seahawks have Wilson
49'ers have Jimmy G
Cardinals have Murray
Rams have Goff

Saints have Brees
Bucs aren't good enough to merit a leave over the Patriots
Panthers maybe but they are going through a HC transition. Does Brady really want to take a gamble like that when he could just stay?
Falcons have Ryan and the team isn't playing well

Gianst somehow I really don't think he wants to finish up there. Even ignoring Daniel Jones, the team has been **** for years.
Eagles have Wentz and another fanbase that hates him and nothing is appealing about playing in that city
Redskins are garbage and I doubt Brady wants to finish up playing for a team that has Dan Snyder as their owner.
Cowboys have Dak and aren't going to move on. If they did, that could be the fit. But they won't

 

[Ring 6]

Debunked by whom?

John Lynch



(as well as common sense and intellect)

 

[JayNM]

Chargers maybe if Rivers retires but does Brady want to play in unfilled stadiums in a city that doesn't want his team?

You really don't think Tom Brady would fill out a stadium in his native state?

EDIT - not to dismerit your post at all. But I do think if there is a place where Brady could go is the Chargers.