If Jimmy leaves, do you feel like Brissett could be the heir in a couple years?

[Tunescribe]

I really like Brissett, I like his quick delivery,

You're confusing Brissett with Garoppolo. Brissett's SLOW delivery is one of his biggest liabilities (thus far).

 

[bigballas]

Did we know what Brady would become in December 2000?

we knew enough to use a roster position on him as the 4th QB.

..obv no one knew he would turn into GOAT, but i think BB knew more than most give him credit for. he knew brady had an incredible worth ethic, great skills, great intangibles and would thrive in the "system" given time

 

[JarOfMayo51]

No, its simply way too early to tell

from what Brissett has shown to date, he's inaccurate and borderline erratic with his throws.. he has a long way to go both in fundamentals and knowledge of the offense

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

No, its simply way too early to tell

from what Brissett has shown to date, he's inaccurate and borderline erratic with his throws.. he has a long way to go both in fundamentals and knowledge of the offense

Based on the little you've seen, I'm curious what you and others feel is Brissett's ceiling and floor in terms of QB comparisons?

Does he remind you of a Ben Roethlisberger? Alex Smith? Jameis Winston?

 

[rochrist]

That's not the issue I have with those who actually gave some reasons for their opinions. Its those who just say no like they gave an insight from god.

But I am irked by those who think they can tell how a QB will develop when we as fans should know better than most that you really can't tell who is going to be Tom Brady and who is going to be Ryan Mallett after 3 games of their rookie year. I thought we were better than that.

Ok. my reasons are he doesn't look to be very accurate with the ball and he doesn't have a very quick release. He looks basically like a JAG. Maybe he'll make a miraculous transformation, but I'm extremely dubious. I'm sure he's got fine character qualities and those might make him a good backup QB, but I doubt he'll be a franchise QB.

 

[TheFlyingWedge]

I'm not sure how anyone could write the kid off his rookie year. This guy took substantial snaps in 3 NFL games just a few months out of college and looked decent all things concidered. Granted that his short passing game needs a lot of work but he has good poise and pocket presence. Like any rookie QB, it's going to take some time.

 

[patfanken]

Ok. my reasons are he doesn't look to be very accurate with the ball and he doesn't have a very quick release. He looks basically like a JAG. Maybe he'll make a miraculous transformation, but I'm extremely dubious. I'm sure he's got fine character qualities and those might make him a good backup QB, but I doubt he'll be a franchise QB.

An d if you were around at the 2000 TC, you might have made the same comments about their #4 QB that season.

BTW- I've heard about the complaint about JB's "slow release" before here, but never from any professional NFL analyst or draft analyst. For your education, below were his weaknesses from his draft profile (at nfl.com) who gave him a 3rd round grade. NOTHING is mentioned about a slow delivery, or is anything that cannot be fixed by good coaching and effort. BTW- I didn't bother to paste his pluses, like his arm strength and accuracy, because reading that will just make you feel even more foolish.

WEAKNESSES
Downward trajectory from over-the-top delivery causes some throws to sink. Has been severely pressured over last two seasons and developed bad habits because of it. Will drop eyes when he feels pressure and throws off his back foot as tools of survival. Occasionally muscles a backfoot throw despite having time to step and drive the ball. Still learning to calm feet and deliver rather than bail when defender is closing in. Carries ball low and away from body when scrambling. Has moments where he is oblivious to pre-snap tells that blitz is coming off the edge. Needs to transition from always trying to fight through sacks to getting rid of the ball more quickly. Struggles with deep ball accuracy completing just 23.1 percent on attempts of 21-plus yards. Had several overthrows when tasked with deep throws down sideline versus man coverage. Failed to recognize receivers running wide open down the seam. Gets locked in on a pre-snap plan and has issues altering his itinerary quickly.

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I'm not sure how anyone could write the kid off his rookie year. This guy took substantial snaps in 3 NFL games just a few months out of college and looked decent all things concidered. Granted that his short passing game needs a lot of work but he has good poise and pocket presence. Like any rookie QB, it's going to take some time.

Pocket presence and awareness was a weakness coming out of college and showed up in his limited time here.

Last year's comp for him was Jason Campbell fwiw

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

An d if you were around at the 2000 TC, you might have made the same comments about their #4 QB that season.

BTW- I've heard about the complaint about JB's "slow release" before here, but never from any professional NFL analyst or draft analyst. For your education, below were his weaknesses from his draft profile (at nfl.com) who gave him a 3rd round grade. NOTHING is mentioned about a slow delivery, or is anything that cannot be fixed by good coaching and effort. BTW- I didn't bother to paste his pluses, like his arm strength and accuracy, because reading that will just make you feel even more foolish.

WEAKNESSES
Downward trajectory from over-the-top delivery causes some throws to sink. Has been severely pressured over last two seasons and developed bad habits because of it. Will drop eyes when he feels pressure and throws off his back foot as tools of survival. Occasionally muscles a backfoot throw despite having time to step and drive the ball. Still learning to calm feet and deliver rather than bail when defender is closing in. Carries ball low and away from body when scrambling. Has moments where he is oblivious to pre-snap tells that blitz is coming off the edge. Needs to transition from always trying to fight through sacks to getting rid of the ball more quickly. Struggles with deep ball accuracy completing just 23.1 percent on attempts of 21-plus yards. Had several overthrows when tasked with deep throws down sideline versus man coverage. Failed to recognize receivers running wide open down the seam. Gets locked in on a pre-snap plan and has issues altering his itinerary quickly.

2016 NFL Draft Profile: Jacoby Brissett

STRENGTHS
Big quarterback with an NFL arm. Has the frame and lower body strength to shake off a would-be sack and extend the play. Possesses competitive spirit and football character needed to be an NFL quarterback. Has a fastball and changeup. Able to step and drive ball into tight windows with plus accuracy or put feathery soft touch on throws when needed. Plays in pro-style scheme. Has experience under center and is comfortable in boot-action pass attack. Makes good decisions reading combination routes. Generally accurate passer who excels in intermediate throws. Wolfpack offense features a menu full of challenging deep outs and field side throws, but he has the arm, timing and confidence to handle it. Makes anticipatory throws into developing windows without flinching. Able to bolt pocket and challenge defenses with his feet. Ran less in 2015, choosing to challenge defenses with his arm after extending plays outside the pocket. Has arm talent, strength and moxie to make winning plays with defenders draped on him and completed almost 60 percent of his passes when forced to throw on the move. Rose to the occasion against Florida State in 2014 and Clemson in 2015.

BOTTOM LINE
With his size, arm and competitiveness, there are times when Brissett will remind you of Jameis Winston, but Winston understood the nuances of the position early in his college career while Brissett is still learning. Brissett's overall ability as a passer is NFL-caliber and he should continue to show rapid improvement on the next level with better weapons and protection. While an NFL staff will need to help him overcome his bad habits and learn to be more consistent with his pre-snap recognitions, Brissett has the tools to become an NFL starter.

 

[stinkypete]

If JG leaves, then Belichick believes that Brisset is the heir. That's all that matters.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Here's the way I see it: since they didn't bring in a QB3 to develop last year, the Pats had no choice but to bring in a QB3 this year in case things went south (as they did). So they chose someone who they felt could at least be a game manager if, God forbid, something happened to Garoppolo (which, of course, it did).

I don't think the question of "who will succeed Brady?" had much of anything to do with the decision.

 

[Bradyking12]

If JG leaves, then Belichick believes that Brisset is the heir. That's all that matters.

Doubt it, Brady's successor probably gets drafted this year or next maybe '19 if JG leaves

 

[nabwong]

You're confusing Brissett with Garoppolo. Brissett's SLOW delivery is one of his biggest liabilities (thus far).

Agree. The only thing slower than Brady's running is Brissett's release. Lol.

 

[Tunescribe]

An d if you were around at the 2000 TC, you might have made the same comments about their #4 QB that season.

BTW- I've heard about the complaint about JB's "slow release" before here, but never from any professional NFL analyst or draft analyst. For your education, below were his weaknesses from his draft profile (at nfl.com) who gave him a 3rd round grade. NOTHING is mentioned about a slow delivery, or is anything that cannot be fixed by good coaching and effort. BTW- I didn't bother to paste his pluses, like his arm strength and accuracy, because reading that will just make you feel even more foolish.

WEAKNESSES
Downward trajectory from over-the-top delivery causes some throws to sink. Has been severely pressured over last two seasons and developed bad habits because of it. Will drop eyes when he feels pressure and throws off his back foot as tools of survival. Occasionally muscles a backfoot throw despite having time to step and drive the ball. Still learning to calm feet and deliver rather than bail when defender is closing in. Carries ball low and away from body when scrambling. Has moments where he is oblivious to pre-snap tells that blitz is coming off the edge. Needs to transition from always trying to fight through sacks to getting rid of the ball more quickly. Struggles with deep ball accuracy completing just 23.1 percent on attempts of 21-plus yards. Had several overthrows when tasked with deep throws down sideline versus man coverage. Failed to recognize receivers running wide open down the seam. Gets locked in on a pre-snap plan and has issues altering his itinerary quickly.

There's plenty out there about Brissett's slow and inconsistent release, here's just one source:

Breaking Down QB’s Jacoby Brissett and Dak Prescott – National Football Post

Brissett's mechanics are all over the place as one point in multiple assessments keeps cropping up: he's more of a "thrower" than a passer, meaning he lacks touch.

 

[Soul_Survivor88]

Fascinating stuff by Rich Hill, who asks
"What's the Deal with Patriots QB Jacoby Brissett's Unimpressive College Production?"

Let's Take a Real Look at QB Jacoby Brissett

 

[rookBoston]

He'll be fine because his HC is the GOAT

 

[IllegalContact]

No

 

[sb1]

Do I think he is the heir at this point? I doubt it, but time will tell. Do I think it's possible that it could be him - which I think is what the OP was asking? Sure it's possible, why not.

I still think the Pats will draft a QB high as the heir to Brady in the next 3 years.

 

[wizwor]

I'm really thinking a big part of the decision on trading Jimmy this offseason will be weighted by how BB and the FO feel about Jacoby.

I don't. I think it is all about 1) how they feel about Brady, 2) how they feel about future drafts, 3) how they feel about JG, and 4) what they are offered. I assume the Pats spend a lot of time scouting QBs and have a slate of potential draftees. I am sure they have an idea of how long TB12 will be good enough. I'm sure they have a good sense of the ceiling for their two backups. If someone offers them an opportunity to get someone rated as high as or higher than JG, they will do it as long as they feel TB12 is good from here to there. If Jacoby is not the guy or is not ready, they bring in a veteran to bridge the gap.

 

[primetime]

Who knows? He's played two games, one with a broken hand, both before he was supposed to be ready. We know he's not a diamond-in-the-rough phenom like Dak Prescott or Russell Wilson. He almost certainly won't be Tom Brady. But I don't think anyone can say whether he will be or won't be a good NFL starter at this point. Plenty of good NFL QBs have barely played or looked bad in their first year or two; look at Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins, and Alex Smith. All that said, my expectations for Brissett are along the lines of Tyrod Taylor. A passable starter, but nothing to write home about.