How Many Games Do Wolf And Mayo Want To Win?

[Real fan 02]

He also signed JJSS and Reiff.

Juju still has a chance... I'm giving him a 45% chance to make the roster.

 

[Real fan 02]

What I want to see more than anything is fight. I want the entire team to play the way guys like Steve Smith played his entire career. Like winning that ball on that throw was the only thing that mattered. I want intensity first, then execution, because you can’t win execution battles if you are losing the physical battle. One of the best things about the Van Pelt hire is his dedication to the run game, because that allows the offensive line to take the fight to the defense, instead of taking the hits all day in pass blocking. The same thing goes for the defense, make opponents pay dearly for every yard they get. Be the nastiest defense in the league, the one no team wants to face. I don’t care nearly as much about their record this year as I do their demeanor. The wins can come later, get really nasty first.

Running the ball, stopping the run is what a team needs to be able to do. Everything feeds off that. We will aid the o line defects by the zone concepts. Agreed here be physical as a team is what you want to see. Even on STs

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

I have to say, having my team tank intentionally to get a top 5 pick or picks and then having that pick or picks all **** the bed/bust would give me great pleasure. In no instance is my team to try and lose. Surefire way to lose a fan(s). **** that noise….Not saying they would ever do that but would lose this fan if it was found they were tanking.

Pretty sure that Wolf and Mayo are trying to win as many as they can. The OP may have wanted to reword the topic to something like “How many wins would be considered a successful year?”. Or manlybe not.

 

[State]

Juju still has a chance... I'm giving him a 45% chance to make the roster.

Twenty-five percent. And that’s generous.

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Do I hear 15%?

 

[Real fan 02]

Twenty-five percent. And that’s generous.

That's only because he's a veteran and has that advantage over the rookies. That's it.

 

[Wozzy]

No. They weren't the 3rd pick in the draft.

You do realize that plenty of great QBs started right away, don't you?

Now the pick number matters, where does starter end and backup begin?

Dak Prescott was a 4th round pick and looked good, draft status doesn’t matter once the draft ends.

Some rookies were ready, some weren’t… what you don’t do is simply hand someone a job. Trey Lance was the third overall pick… it’s meaningless.

 

[Real fan 02]

I have to say, having my team tank intentionally to get a top 5 pick or picks and then having that pick or picks all **** the bed/bust would give me great pleasure. In no instance is my team to try and lose. Surefire way to lose a fan(s). **** that noise….Not saying they would ever do that but would lose this fan if it was found they were tanking.

Pretty sure that Wolf and Mayo are trying to win as many as they can. The OP may have wanted to reword the topic to something like “How many wins would be considered a successful year?”. Or manlybe not.

Yes! Loosing does nothing for the players. For example even though we tanked organically last season you could see the dicension with the players, a coaches job is so much harder when a team looses. This is why I've said I'd rather them be counted out, let the media, the rankings all not expect much from them.

The opportunity for a rookie QB to start isn't as difficult as it used to be. Drake has a confidence in him that I haven't seen in a rookie QB since TB12.

 

[Real fan 02]

Now the pick number matters, where does starter end and backup begin?

Dak Prescott was a 4th round pick and looked good, draft status doesn’t matter once the draft ends.

Some rookies were ready, some weren’t… what you don’t do is simply hand someone a job. Trey Lance was the third overall pick… it’s meaningless.

Like we did. I truly believe San Fran bungled the QB position with Lance. They let Jimmy play with thier emotions by believing he was the guy. Then keeping him on the roster while drafting Lance.
Telling him to stay away from the team.

Lance got hurt and just couldn't get any traction as a starter.

 

[mgteich]

That's only because he's a veteran and has that advantage over the rookies. That's it.

Polk and Baker are locks to make the roster. How does Schuster have an advantage over them with regard to making the roster?

 

[Real fan 02]

Polk and Baker are locks to make the roster. How does Schuster have an advantage over them with regard to making the roster?

Becuase he's a veteran as I said that's the only advantage he has. Veteran knowledge.

 

[Wozzy]

Like we did. I truly believe San Fran bungled the QB position with Lance. They let Jimmy play with thier emotions by believing he was the guy. Then keeping him on the roster while drafting Lance.
Telling him to stay away from the team.

Lance got hurt and just couldn't get any traction as a starter.

Lance was a major project who got overrated and over-drafted, the funniest part and a clear example the draft being a crapshoot was Shanahan wanting Mac originally and having to be talked into Lance.

Both were failures… the entire 2021 draft class was a dud, especially when you consider Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be a “generational talent” and has been merely good. Davis Mills is the second best QB from that class and he was taken in the 3rd round.

 

[Real fan 02]

Lance was a major project who got overrated and over-drafted, the funniest part and a clear example the draft being a crapshoot was Shanahan wanting Mac originally and having to be talked into Lance.

Both were failures… the entire 2021 draft class was a dud, especially when you consider Trevor Lawrence was supposed to be a “generational talent” and has been merely good. Davis Mills is the second best QB from that class and he was taken in the 3rd round.

Yes, Mac has to be frustrated for a lot of reasons all he needed to do is be marginal his last 2 seasons and some team would pay him Mayfield $$. Lawrence has been that.. so he's riding the wave of the QB market, gino Smith as well. Davis mills was so good he got beat out by a rookie that took his team to the divisional round of the playoffs.

 

[Wozzy]

Yes, Mac has to be frustrated for a lot of reasons all he needed to do is be marginal his last 2 seasons and some team would pay him Mayfield $$. Lawrence has been that.. so he's riding the wave of the QB market, gino Smith as well. Davis mills was so good he got beat out by a rookie that took his team to the divisional round of the playoffs.

Mac was exposed after week 13 as a rookie, the entire NFL had his number.

Average arm, poor decision making, inability to detect the blitz, poor attitude, blaming others for his mistakes, poor sportsmanship, and a penchant for throwing ill advised passes and hope that his receivers saved his butt.

Mac stunk… he would have stunk wherever he went, the same way Lance and Fields did.

 

[Real fan 02]

Mac was exposed after week 13 as a rookie, the entire NFL had his number.

Average arm, poor decision making, inability to detect the blitz, poor attitude, blaming others for his mistakes, poor sportsmanship, and a penchant for throwing ill advised passes and hope that his receivers saved his butt.

Mac stunk… he would have stunk wherever he went, the same way Lance and Fields did.

Gino Smith was a career backup and after 10 years got 100 plus million. All Mac needs to do these days is be marginal and he too can cash in. If you ask me there isn't as much pressure on QBs these days to be all world. Be marginal. 20 TD, 11 INTS. You will see at minimum 100 million. I'm not apologizing for Mac's play just stating from here on out there's no pressure on him.

 

[Wozzy]

Gino Smith was a career backup and after 10 years got 100 plus million. All Mac needs to do these days is be marginal and he too can cash in. If you ask me there isn't as much pressure on QBs these days to be all world. Be marginal. 20 TD, 11 INTS. You will see at minimum 100 million. I'm not apologizing for Mac's play just stating from here on out there's no pressure on him.

Now that he’s a backup perhaps he can become a man instead of a petulant child. Maybe he’ll work on his craft and learn the game.

I expected this is year two, instead he picked up where he left off from his rookie season… leading the NFL in turnovers.

 

[brdmaverick]

It's easy for fans to say "We need to lose to get a high pick again b/c back-to-back years of high picks will set us right for the future..."

and I get it. I actually DO believe this to be a legit strategy HYPOTHETICALLY.....but humas have emotions.

There is a common saying that NFL stands for "NOT FOR LONG" meaning most players are only interested in the 'here and now'. There might only be 5 guys that are on the team in 4 years when this rebuild takes shape....coaches and players don't have the luxury to stink and survive that amount of time. The NFL is a 'results now' league. You can't intentionally stink. It's not good for business or anyone's individual career.

 

[BillyD90123]

I understand that many posters would like to see us win 3-5 games and get a top 5 pick. Of course, they would like to see lots of progress on the Offense, the Ol, QB and WR. They want to dump or trade Judon and Godchaux. They want us to look good for 3 1/2 quarters.

How do you think Wolf and Mayo view this issue?

I look at history and expect the Pats to have another top 3 pic this year.

 

[Real fan 02]

I look at history and expect the Pats to have another top 3 pic this year.

That trajectory was changed in NFL history with CJ stroud. This team has many similarities to Houston last season.

 

[sb1]

Now the pick number matters, where does starter end and backup begin?

Dak Prescott was a 4th round pick and looked good, draft status doesn’t matter once the draft ends.

Some rookies were ready, some weren’t… what you don’t do is simply hand someone a job. Trey Lance was the third overall pick… it’s meaningless.

If it was meaningless then no team would pick at the top of the draft. They would all trade down for picks for the same reason that several pulls at the slot machine are better than one.

Reality says the top of the draft is not a guarantee of anything but it gives you a much better chance to get a great player than the bottom of the draft would. The Purdy's Prescotts, Bradys, etc are an exception not the rule. There's a reason why that is so.