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I generally avoid that show like the plague, but I do sometimes tune in on Bedard days. And the past few weeks of Ordway constantly swabbing Belichick's rump has led to me flipping the stations back and forth, so I've heard more of Felger/Mazz in the past month than I had in the entire 11 months previous.Casual fans love Felgergarb and think he's insightful. If I try even gently to say that he's not an authority they look at me like I'm crazy.
The percentage portion of the discussion was triggered by a Kraft interview many years ago, where he was talking about how too high a percentage of the cap being paid out to QBs would hamper the ability of a team to bring in talent around him. It was not about greed, or anything of that sort. It was about team building philosophy, and he was questioning whether or not Brady winning down in Tampa would force a change in that philosophy.]
The other part of the Felger commentary was about the Patriots being dead last in actual money paid out to players over the last 5 years. Felger didn't talk about that as a function of greed. He talked about it as a function of a team budget which allows for owners to make a profit, and he was fine with it. What he did was then speculate that the low payout might be because of the alleged high payout to BB as coach/GM being included as part of the overall budget.
So I'd drop the libel portion, and just use the two parts as a pair of at least semi-interstings sub discussions.
But that's just me.
I'm sorry, but that's not the argument he was making yesterday. From the get-go he pointed out how low the Pats paid Brady and openly asked if NE is still going to try and pull this off, now that Brady left NE for more $ and won in Tampa (conviently ignoring that Brady was still under 13% in Tampa).
Yes, he played the Kraft clip (later on in the show), but Felger claimed this logic was all an excuse to keep money from players.
Yes, I'm aware of Felger using the "actual money paid" data in the past. But he didn't use it yesterday.
BTW - I edited the tile. thank you.
Since the CBA allowed teams to roll over cap space with a single form, when have the Patriots not rolled over 100% of their leftover salary cap? Not doing so means they're not pocketing any of it.trying to telling his audience that Kraft and Belichick only do this out of greed. That's completely ridiculous.
Would you believe me if I told you that the Talk Radio format calls for hosts to make factually incorrect (or misread) information ON PURPOSE to coax callers to light up the phone lines?Why let logic, facts, and informed opinion get in the way of an inflammatory hot take that can be beaten into the ground four hours a day for months?
For example...
A couple years ago Maz made an idiotic claim regarding stolen base % and how the Red Sox blew it the night before based on the misinformation he was pedaling. Aggravated by his ignorance, I called into the Felger & Maz show and explained to both clowns their mistake and they quickly saw the error in their hot take.....and then both attacked me for interrupting Felger as he bloviated other nonsense. (I think my phone # is now blocked by that station)
An hour later, Maz opens up his baseball show with the same ignorant hot take that I corrected him on during his earlier show.
Typical lazy, entrenched Boston media.
I'm sorry, but that's not the argument he was making yesterday. From the get-go he pointed out how low the Pats paid Brady and openly asked if NE is still going to try and pull this off, now that Brady left NE for more $ and won in Tampa (conviently ignoring that Brady was still under 13% in Tampa).
Yes, he played the Kraft clip (later on in the show), but Felger claimed this logic was all an excuse to keep money from players.
Yes, I'm aware of Felger using the "actual money paid" data in the past. But he didn't use it yesterday. EDIT: Although he vaguely mention Jerry Jones was low in actual spending, but he spun it as if it was proof of how cheap owners were.
BTW - I edited the tile. thank you.
"I was just trying to stay ahead of the curve. If we were going to have to pay him elite-quarterback money and have elite-quarterback cap numbers, I just didn't think we would be able to build a team. We don't want to have a team where we're paying 18 to 20 percent to a player on the cap. I wanted to do something elegant that would work for everybody. I had been talking to him off and on for maybe 18 months, about how I wanted him to finish his career here, and about how we both have to be smart about it. I just really want him to end his career a Patriot.''
Felger, whos felger?Disclaimer - No, I'm not calling for an actual lawsuit, or anything. Rather, just take a moment to read and ask yourself just who Michael Felger really is...
Anyone listen to Felger yesterday? He was talking about how cheap Brady's contracts have been over the years & and rambled on with his usual shtick about how 'the cap is crap' and even went so far as to speculate that the only reason why Kraft does it is because he's is cheap, and Belichick goes along with it because he wants to keep money away from players since he makes $25 million per yr, and show everyone he that he doesn't need high-paid players to win, etc. Felger even went so far as to claim that the owners across the league are intentionally trying to conspire to keep money away from players. So, he's pushing it. But it's just ignorant speculation, right?
But, Felger cited a very specific and curious benchmark when he discussed Brady's contracts with NE: 13% of the cap.
He said that the only year Brady's cap hit was above 13% of the overall cap was back in 2006. Now this is true. But, what made him specifically cite 13%? I mean, there is very little consistency in the % of Brady's yearly cap hit. One year its 9.9% the next its 6.7% (See the percentages for yourself). So why use that specific percentage? Why use 13%? Oh, wait. I know why. Because, since the very beginning of the salary cap era, the most that a QB has ever been paid, in a Super Bowl winning season, is just 13% of the salary cap. That happened back in 1994 w/ the 49ers & Steve Young. To put it in perspective, 13% of the 2020 cap is just above $25 million. Now I don't expect everyone to know this. But for those who follow the cap, you've probably read about this throughout the years; 13% is widely considered the benchmark among cap-gurus of when a QB is making too much money to field a legit SB winning team. Google it. Go to sites like overthecap.com. This is nothing new. It's been discussed again and again. In fact, it's getting a lot of recent traction due to Dak Prescott & Dallas Cowboys negotiations.
So, back to Felger. I find it ridiculously curious that he specifically brings up 13% of the cap -- only in relation to Brady and NE -- but is seemingly unaware of the entire context in which that 13% benchmark comes from. I mean, does he genuinely not know? Is his use of "13%" a genuine coincidence? Well, remember he specifically, cited the one year when Brady's cap went above 13%. Key word: "above." And again, there's little consistency in Brady's cap hits over the years. So, it's pretty clear he is aware that 13% is used as the line-in-the-sand for when a QB's salary is considered to be too high for a SB win. So, he must know about this. So, again, the data in which 13% comes from is not just a tiny little detail that he forgot to mention. It's the entire crux of the discussion; it's the entire reason why 13% is viewed as such a benchmark. So, there's no way he's citing this info and not aware of where it comes from. There's just no way.
Now, here's the ugly part. With this in mind, when Felger tries to speculate on just what the motivation is as to why Kraft and Belichick keep the QB salary under 13%....how can he possibly jump to the conclusion that it's straight up greed without even bothering to mention all the above? Really. There's no excuse for this. I mean, even if he thinks this 13% theory is a bunch of junk, that's fine, but at least tell us the context of it. But he's now commenting on another person's thought's, ignoring the obvious context of where it comes from, ignoring that this goes well beyond NE, and trying to telling his audience that Kraft and Belichick only do this out of greed. That's completely ridiculous.
Is this who Michael Felger really is as a person? We aren't even talking sports anymore. This crap goes well beyond "contrarian" sports talk. He's taking personal shots at Belichick and Kraft when he knows the very info he's using supports their strategy. Again, if he wants to brings up that data, tell the story behind it, and then argue that he thinks its a bunch of non-sense & the Pats should just pay big names, that's fine. But he doesn't do that. He takes the info, completely ignores the history and context, makes it look like NE is the only team doing it, and then claims that it's just an excuse for the Pats to keep money from players.....Why? I don't get this guy. He already has a successful show. He can speculate all day on Brady vs Belichick. But this is how he functions. This is who he is as a person. He lies to his listeners to make them think their team is lying to them.
Just some douchebag....Felger, whos felger?
Besides that Hes a click bait artist. And i ain't clickingJust some douchebag....
I heard every word of his argument. Yes, what I posted is the argument he made. And the Tampa thing is irrelevant to his point, as the issue of Brady getting paid like an elite QB was never an issue for the TB signing.