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Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by manxman2601, Apr 16, 2018.

  1. long distance

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    I could see that happening. He is a rare athlete. He can man up TEs, has the size / physicality to play like a linebacker, and also the speed and explosion to run with receivers down the field.
     
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    I watched some tape - decent in coverage but thought his tackling was a little weak. Didn’t see first round tape (ore late 2nd-early 4th) but then I didn’t see firstroound tape from his brother so who knows.
     
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    Interesting from Peter King’s mock

    And fwiw, he has us taking Rashaan Evans at 23 and Vander Esch at 31. That’s one way to approach the linebacker situation.

     
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    Snooky97 In the Starting Line-Up

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    Well we'd go from average to fairly decent LB Core..
     
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    I don't think that the Pats 2017 LB corps even rose to the level of "average". The two primary issues were lack of healthy bodies and lack of NFL-level experience. Evans/LVE would help with the first issue, but not with the second.
     
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    He also specifically mentions the Pats at 23 and 31 among the teams when he said clubs would take less value in a trade down. Not saying that's that'd be the wrong move but man would that be disappointing as a fan.
     
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    I can see at least four reasonable scenarios in which a team that's drafting early in the first might want to get back in at #31, all of whom have the draft ammo to do make a mathematically equal value trade without screwing themselves. Plus, KC has no first rounder and could also afford the #31.

    There are at least two scenarios in which a team drafting later than #23 in the 1st might move up and add a 3rd-rounder for the Pats without screwing themselves.

    I doubt that BB would be comfortable with discounting the #23 or #31 for more than a relatively negligible amount (< 5%) unless he was getting 3 or more picks out of the deal.

    For example, he might let the #31 (600 points) go to the Niners in exchange for ..

    #59 (310)
    #70 (240)
    #128 (44)
    #228 (1)

    That only adds up to 589 for 600, but BB gets a 1 for 4 trade and a lot more flexibility to move around the board.
     
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    If Evans, Alexander, Vander Esch and Miller are off the board at that stage, I’d take that. Still allows you to pick a Reid, Harrison, Carter at 43, an EDGE at 59 (Sweat/Green) and QB at 63.
     
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    He is a great tackler as well and this is what we need so badly. Alongside with Harrison and Reid,Edmunds is high on my wishlist.
     
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    That's actually among the least tempting of the scenarios that I can map out just off the top of my head. Relatively short downward trades are also in play:

    for the #31 (600) ...
    NYG #34 (560) + #139 (36) = 596
    CHI #39 (510) + #105 (84) = 594

    for the #23 (760) ...
    NOL #27 (680) + #127 (45) +#147 (32) = 757
     
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    Roquan, Derwin and Chubb are the three non QBs that interest me most in a significant trade up.
     
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    Hint?

     
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    Alabama linebackers scare me
    Arrests injuries ineffectiveness.
     
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    CJ Mosley? :) Also, Hightower saved us a SB.
     
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    Evans has never been arrested afaik, last Alabama linebacker here worked out pretty well and I think Saban knows what he's doing.
     
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