Draft Rumours

[long distance]

Hmm ...

Sounds a bit stalker-ish.

Might be #1 qualification for the Hoodie..

 

[SHOWTIME15]

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[manxman2601]

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I could see that happening. He is a rare athlete. He can man up TEs, has the size / physicality to play like a linebacker, and also the speed and explosion to run with receivers down the field.

 

[manxman2601]

I could see that happening. He is a rare athlete. He can man up TEs, has the size / physicality to play like a linebacker, and also the speed and explosion to run with receivers down the field.

I watched some tape - decent in coverage but thought his tackling was a little weak. Didn’t see first round tape (ore late 2nd-early 4th) but then I didn’t see firstroound tape from his brother so who knows.

 

[manxman2601]

Interesting from Peter King’s mock

There’s an inordinate number of teams very high who I believe will want to trade down, and perhaps for only moderate value because of the strength of the second and third rounds and the thinness of the first round.

And fwiw, he has us taking Rashaan Evans at 23 and Vander Esch at 31. That’s one way to approach the linebacker situation.

 

[Snooky97]

Interesting from Peter King’s mock



And fwiw, he has us taking Rashaan Evans at 23 and Vander Esch at 31. That’s one way to approach the linebacker situation.

Well we'd go from average to fairly decent LB Core..

 

[maineman209]

Well we'd go from average to fairly decent LB Core..

I don't think that the Pats 2017 LB corps even rose to the level of "average". The two primary issues were lack of healthy bodies and lack of NFL-level experience. Evans/LVE would help with the first issue, but not with the second.

 

[jboston19]

Interesting from Peter King’s mock



And fwiw, he has us taking Rashaan Evans at 23 and Vander Esch at 31. That’s one way to approach the linebacker situation.

He also specifically mentions the Pats at 23 and 31 among the teams when he said clubs would take less value in a trade down. Not saying that's that'd be the wrong move but man would that be disappointing as a fan.

 

[maineman209]

He also specifically mentions the Pats at 23 and 31 among the teams when he said clubs would take less value in a trade down. Not saying that's that'd be the wrong move but man would that be disappointing as a fan.

I can see at least four reasonable scenarios in which a team that's drafting early in the first might want to get back in at #31, all of whom have the draft ammo to do make a mathematically equal value trade without screwing themselves. Plus, KC has no first rounder and could also afford the #31.

There are at least two scenarios in which a team drafting later than #23 in the 1st might move up and add a 3rd-rounder for the Pats without screwing themselves.

I doubt that BB would be comfortable with discounting the #23 or #31 for more than a relatively negligible amount (< 5%) unless he was getting 3 or more picks out of the deal.

For example, he might let the #31 (600 points) go to the Niners in exchange for ..

#59 (310)
#70 (240)
#128 (44)
#228 (1)

That only adds up to 589 for 600, but BB gets a 1 for 4 trade and a lot more flexibility to move around the board.

 

[manxman2601]

I can see at least four reasonable scenarios in which a team that's drafting early in the first might want to get back in at #31, all of whom have the draft ammo to do make a mathematically equal value trade without screwing themselves. Plus, KC has no first rounder and could also afford the #31.

There are at least two scenarios in which a team drafting later than #23 in the 1st might move up and add a 3rd-rounder for the Pats without screwing themselves.

I doubt that BB would be comfortable with discounting the #23 or #31 for more than a relatively negligible amount (< 5%) unless he was getting 3 or more picks out of the deal.

For example, he might let the #31 (600 points) go to the Niners in exchange for ..

#59 (310)
#70 (240)
#128 (44)
#228 (1)

That only adds up to 589 for 600, but BB gets a 1 for 4 trade and a lot more flexibility to move around the board.

If Evans, Alexander, Vander Esch and Miller are off the board at that stage, I’d take that. Still allows you to pick a Reid, Harrison, Carter at 43, an EDGE at 59 (Sweat/Green) and QB at 63.

 

[oceansizer]

I could see that happening. He is a rare athlete. He can man up TEs, has the size / physicality to play like a linebacker, and also the speed and explosion to run with receivers down the field.

He is a great tackler as well and this is what we need so badly. Alongside with Harrison and Reid,Edmunds is high on my wishlist.

 

[maineman209]

If Evans, Alexander, Vander Esch and Miller are off the board at that stage, I’d take that. Still allows you to pick a Reid, Harrison, Carter at 43, an EDGE at 59 (Sweat/Green) and QB at 63.

That's actually among the least tempting of the scenarios that I can map out just off the top of my head. Relatively short downward trades are also in play:

for the #31 (600) ...
NYG #34 (560) + #139 (36) = 596
CHI #39 (510) + #105 (84) = 594

for the #23 (760) ...
NOL #27 (680) + #127 (45) +#147 (32) = 757

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

If Ro Quan sen is there at 9, I would pull the trigger on this desk in a heartbeat.

Fixed that for you

 

[manxman2601]

Fixed that for you

Roquan, Derwin and Chubb are the three non QBs that interest me most in a significant trade up.

 

[manxman2601]

Hint?

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Hint?

Alabama linebackers scare me
Arrests injuries ineffectiveness.

 

[manxman2601]

Alabama linebackers scare me
Arrests injuries ineffectiveness.

CJ Mosley? Also, Hightower saved us a SB.

 

[TriplecHamp]

Evans has never been arrested afaik, last Alabama linebacker here worked out pretty well and I think Saban knows what he's doing.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

CJ Mosley? Also, Hightower saved us a SB.

Hightowers always injured.