Doug Marrone is interested in hiring Bill O'Brien

[captain stone]

If Conan O'Brian is hired as OC, can he bring Triumph the Insult Comic Dog with him to be QB Coach? I love that little guy...

 

[Disco Volante]

I wonder if he'll take the job, Bill O'Brien is a very hard man to predict.

I once ate dinner with the man. Sitting right next to him, I asked him to pass the ketchup and for some crazy reason he ran a draw play to Morris which resulted in the ketchup being spilled all over the floor.

 

[Xplicit]

I wonder if he'll take the job, Bill O'Brien is a very hard man to predict.

I once ate dinner with the man. Sitting right next to him, I asked him to pass the ketchup and for some crazy reason he ran a draw play to Morris which resulted in the ketchup being spilled all over the floor.

I think you mean a Faulk draw

 

[Kontradiction]

Great. Now we can lose him and go through another year of suffering through the growing pains of an OC trying to learn on the job. I didn't think he did a fantastic job, but I think he can and will improve with another year of experience. McDaniels went through the same thing that he did. I sincerely hope that we can get a year of continuity on the staff.

 

[SVN]

Great. Now we can lose him and go through another year of suffering through the growing pains of an OC trying to learn on the job. I didn't think he did a fantastic job, but I think he can and will improve with another year of experience. McDaniels went through the same thing that he did. I sincerely hope that we can get a year of continuity on the staff.

agree. our team wasnt the same which mcd had in 2007 either ...

 

[doesntmatter1]

Our offense can only go up from here. I truly feel that our 2009 offense was as bad as it gets(we can never become as bad as the redskins offensively as long as we have Brady imho). For the sake of my sanity, i really hope the next OC is not as predictable. Please!!!!!!!!!


Also, Mcdaniel's first year wasn't as bad as some like to believe. It was very different than Weis's but it was still effective and it was the first season that brady threw for 4,000 yards. Maybe we would have viewed that season differently if our defense was better(duane starks, monty beisel, chad brown, mike stone, etc.)

 

[Brady2Welker]

Are we really certain that Brady wasn't favre'ing when he was under center?

It could have been that Brady was audibling to passing plays that O'Brien decided to say screw it, the man isn't sticking with run so we're just going to operate out of shotgun all day so he can do it his way. I've heard before that there's been quite a few times that Brady has exercised his right to audible to a passing play. And I don't think that Brady forcing it to Moss/Welker is a result of playdesign or Brady being deprogrammed. More than likely its the inability for the third, fourth receiver to get open consistently, or Brady missing the target.


Not taking shots at Brady, but I refuse to believe that O'Brien is as bad as what we think, I mean honestly, you don't become an OC if you dont realize that running the football is important. And we know damn well that BB probably would've ***** slapped him had he tried to do that initially.

 

[ElReyDeLosReyes]

Why must people keep comparing O'Brien to McDaniels.

McDaniels was young, creative, intelligenent. Why O'Brien history is not one should be impressived by.

He must leave..the guy can't cut it in the college, much less the NFL.

 

[Wretch]

Bill O'Brien has to deal with Brady coming off injury, Neal going down again and the lack of a WR3, and do this in his first year on the job, and people are screaming for his head.

The American public.... :nooo:

Valid observations, but the Pats offense has had to deal with lack of talent and injuries before, see the Reche Caldwell and Antwain Smith years as examples of talent issues, and the Brady injury, and still been consistently good. Past Pats offenses were able to make adjustments at half time and finish games. Our offense was woeful in the second half of games this year. Whether that can be attributed to Brady, O'Brien or BB is debatable, but if past performance is an indicator, the odds are that it was the loss of McD and promotion of O'Brien that is the root issue with the latest incarnation of the Pats Offense.

None of us are inside the Pats organization so we don't know if it Brady was not listening to the offensive coaches, or if BB or O'Brien was the party responsible for play calling and game planning, but both Brady's and BB's histories gain them some benefit of the doubt.

 

[pats1]

Football Scoop

Syracuse: We are hearing Doug Marrone is interested in hiring New England Patriots quarterbacks coach Bill O’Brien.

Talked about on 98.5 this morning...

 

[JSn]

Maybe that dude should change his name to Doug Maroon.

 

[eagle eye]

When do the idiots go for their long break from the forum? Seriously, all this wishing for BoB to go just sickens me. It has to be the acting OC who is at fault when the OL is injury prone and not performing for the second season in a row, Moss and Watson are below par and Gaffney is sent packing to be replaced by an aging vet who ducks out of catching a ball rather than take a hit.

 

[Deus Irae]

Valid observations, but the Pats offense has had to deal with lack of talent and injuries before, see the Reche Caldwell and Antwain Smith years as examples of talent issues, and the Brady injury, and still been consistently good. Past Pats offenses were able to make adjustments at half time and finish games. Our offense was woeful in the second half of games this year. Whether that can be attributed to Brady, O'Brien or BB is debatable, but if past performance is an indicator, the odds are that it was the loss of McD and promotion of O'Brien that is the root issue with the latest incarnation of the Pats Offense.

1.) The Patriots scored more points this season than they did last season.

2.) The Patriots had a lead in every game this year.

3.) The Patriots had a lead into the 4th quarter in 4 of the team's 6 losses.

4.) Fred Taylor is on WEEI as we speak, and he's defending O'Brien and throwing his fellow players under the bus regarding timeouts, just to point to one thing people have complained about.

5.) If the team struggling in the second half is O'Brien's fault, doesn't that also mean that the comparatively solid starts are his 'fault', too?

6.) And this can't be stressed enough..... Brady was coming back off of ACL surgery, Welker missed 3 games (2 full and most of the disaster in Houston) and the Patriots lost 2 of them, Edelman missed 5 games, Neal was injured for a fair portion of the season and he had Sam Aiken as his #2 outside receiver.

 

[Wretch]

1.) The Patriots scored more points this season than they did last season.

2.) The Patriots had a lead in every game this year.

3.) The Patriots had a lead into the 4th quarter in 4 of the team's 6 losses.

4.) Fred Taylor is on WEEI as we speak, and he's defending O'Brien and throwing his fellow players under the bus regarding timeouts, just to point to one thing people have complained about.

5.) If the team struggling in the second half is O'Brien's fault, doesn't that also mean that the comparatively solid starts are his 'fault', too?

6.) And this can't be stressed enough..... Brady was coming back off of ACL surgery, Welker missed 3 games (2 full and most of the disaster in Houston) and the Patriots lost 2 of them, Edelman missed 5 games, Neal was injured for a fair portion of the season and he had Sam Aiken as his #2 outside receiver.

Brady was injured last year, Neal was injured last year, Morris was injured last year. Every Pats teams, every NFL team, deals with injuries. What I said was that past teams were able to finish games with less talent on offense.

Brady was recovering from ACL surgery but put up pro-bowl numbers so I don't think you can defend O'Brien using Brady's recovery as the basis for that defense.

Yes if O'Brien is responsible for second half finishes then he is responsible for first half starts, but the Offense struggled to put together complete games. If the games ended at half time O'Brien is the one of the best OC in the NFL.

I am not disagreeing with anything you said, What I said was that the Pats offense struggled in the second half of games, failing to make adjustments. Who is to blame for that is up for debate but based on the histories of the parties involved says O'Brien was the likely cause of the issues.

I want to stress that I do not blame O'Brien or the offense exclusively for the Pats losses only that the offense under performed in the second half of games. The defense was just as responsible for the losses, but that doesn't invalidate my points about the offense.

I also do not excuse BB from blame for the losses. As the head coach the failures of the team are his responsibility, but that doesn't mean O'Brien is a good OC either.

 

[skinnydog]

Where do I pick him up. I'll drive the car

 

[Bring Back Antowain!]

Being an SU student and die-hard Patriots fan, I'm calling this fate/destiny.

There is no escaping Bill O'Brien for me.