Door open for Dola in NE

[RIpats88]

Superbowls often come down to got to have it plays and amendola has made plenty.

4th down, 2pt conversion, tds..he may never have replaced welker in the production department, but in got to have it plays in the superbowl he surpassed him

 

[The Gr8est]

Not to mention that Floyd will be suspended from 2-6 games. (The CBA section on substance abuse discipline allows Roger to to give a longer-than-standard suspension when DUI has been extreme, and Floyd pled guilty to extreme DUI, not just regular DUI, so Roger has a basis to invoke that.)

Maybe Floyd can sign with the Rats, then he is looking at two games maximum suspension.

 

[luuked]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

He has been essentially zero leverage, said multiple times he likes it here and has already shown willingness to restructure.

He will accept a pay cut in exchange for some sizable guarantees because this usually keeps a player on the roster through cuts. The only thing Dola wants to avoid is getting cut in August after putting all that work which is what would happen to him with his current contract.

The fact he has not asked to be released indicates that the Pats are aware of all that and I am sure some compromise will be made.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

This is one of those strange cap situations as you point out. Yah, I can definitely see Dola's people saying WTF? if/when there's mega unused cap space. Why the pay cut? Probably incentives to make up for any cut.
But there's ample time for the Pats to extend contracts and in maybe an unorthodox manner spending THIS year's cap more so than they normally would on an extension.

 

[PWRxWLF]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

Are you sure about that? I was told we don't win '14 without Butler. But then again, I was told we don't win either without Hightower. Then there's the crowd that says TFB! What about Edelman? Now we've got Amendola? For fans like me, it's about the team. Amendolas production does not match his cost. If we are having a hard time meeting Butlers demands, take a chunk from D.A. and throw it to Butler.

 

[long distance]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

It is never really about cap space but the value BB&co set on players. This FA is once again a reminder how good they are at that. One is market value, the other is value for their team re. what they have in mind w certain player.

It should be pretty simple though - since they already set the value with last year's restructure. Danny has 1.4 guaranteed. Another million in possible earnings should do the trick.

Last year BB was reportedly generous by putting low roster bonus in Amendola's contract since it was expected he would start the season on PUP after “a couple minor procedures done after the season“. So I believe they have good mutual understanding and Im happy both are interested in another run together..

 

[Doctor DDS]

I think DA and the team will agree to fair compensation. The reason he will take a cut is that there are no teams out there that would pay anywhere close to his current number. He is worth more to the Pats than anywhere else and I think they'll end up somewhere close to last years contract numbers. I'd like to see him start on PUP due to WR depth and bring him back for the stretch run. For Floyd to stay on the Pats, a longer suspension may actually work to his advantage as they can carry him without a roster spot.

 

[Thelonious]

I've said it before, but he's our Kirk Gibson, except that seems able to do the Gibson trick time and time again. I like having him around, but I'm not the bean counter. Eventually some pencilneck with a spreadsheet will do him in for good, which is too bad. Of course, he WILL have the consolation of his actress friends to soften the blow...

 

[YOUGOTMOSSED]

Not to mention that Floyd will be suspended from 2-6 games. (The CBA section on substance abuse discipline allows Roger to to give a longer-than-standard suspension when DUI has been extreme, and Floyd pled guilty to extreme DUI, not just regular DUI, so Roger has a basis to invoke that.)

What sort of time frame are we looking at?

When does Goodell have to make the decision on the suspension?

Is any team going to sign him before they hear Goodell's edict on the suspension?

 

[Tunescribe]

Having savvy, clutch role players like Amendola helps win championships. I think he's smart enough to know that the balance of his career depends on embracing that and being satisfied with taking less money.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Superbowls often come down to got to have it plays and amendola has made plenty.

4th down, 2pt conversion, tds..he may never have replaced welker in the production department, but in got to have it plays in the superbowl he surpassed him

And not just the Super Bowl's, go back and look at the playoff games that got them there and he's all over them in terms of making the critical plays. He reminds me of Kevin Faulk in that he doesn't get a lot of touches but the ines he gets are generally big plays.

 

[aluminum seats]

Unfortunately, there's a steady stream of dump him comments here every off- season.

Where?

 

[Deus Irae]

Unfortunately, there's a steady stream of dump him comments here every off- season, in spite of his willingness to cut his salary every year. I don't get that at all.

The reason people call for his release is simple. He's never lived up to the hype/hope, and he's a declining "now" player who's spot could be taken by a potential "tomorrow" player. Up until this season, those wanting him around have been able to respond with "Yeah, but the team needs depth, too, because the top guys are brittle". That doesn't apply this year, though, as the team should, legitimately, have 4 WRs above Amendola on the overall depth list (which doesn't mean he won't still be getting time in the regular rotation, and doesn't mean he won't be the Edelman backup, if needed).

 

[bormio]

Where?

Certainly not this year. Pats are not going to over pay the market - that is not how they win. The cap space is valuable and they do not use it as a reward.

 

[aluminum seats]

Certainly not this year. Pats are not going to over pay the market - that is not how they win. The cap space is valuable and they do not use it as a reward.

Yeah, I don't think people have called for his release for years.

 

[RayClay]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

No, that's not how it works. I want him back, but a 5th receiver, or a small guy on the open market has a certain value. That's how it works.

 

[kennyb]

He makes more than edelman. If he won't cut his salary, he'd be cut and out of a job pronto. Don't dispute bill's value calcs if you want to keep your job. Makes no difference how much cap is available, it's not his money.

2m for having a dream job. Not sure he'd be in great demand if cut anyway. Definitely not at his current salary.

 

[patfanken]

The Patriots are sitting on nearly $30 million in cap space which they basically cannot use, and they'll probably be rolling over more than $20 million next year. If they come to Amendola and ask him to take a paycut just to let it sit in Kraft's pocket, he should rightly tell the Patriots to get ****ed after all he's done for the team.

I get that fans assign arbitrary salary values to a player, but that's not the way this works. They signed a contract and they should honor it if they don't want him playing elsewhere in 2017, and they're a much better team with Amendola than without him, and they don't win the 2014 or 2016 Super Bowl without him.

That's way over the top PT. The Pats paid Amendola handsomely in his first years with the team, way over the production they got for that very limited production (mostly due to injuries). He's done very well here overall. His current cap number is still a product of that first deal. BOTH sides recognize that hat his age, size and injury history that cap number is way past ridiculous.

DA has just 2 options, refuse to renegotiate, get released, and HOPE you can get a minimum wage deal somewhere new, OR renegotiate a deal that pays him more for what a 5th WR should expect.

Of course it's the later; DA is now a New Englander. He's got family in the area and will likely live here after he retires. I expect him to get a contract that will give him a $500,000 signing bonus (for past contributions), $1MM in salary (assuming he makes the team), and $1MM in incentives, most of which he won't reach as a 5th WR.

However, as a back up slot receiver and KO/PR, he adds depth, experience, and enough value to the justify his salary and incentives. If someone emerges to take his place, he gets that $500,000 parting gift for all the good he's done. But that's all. That's all he is at this point, and a hallmark of this era of success is that you NEVER pay for past production.

 

[VJCPatriot]

Of course I'd keep Amendola if he were willing to restructure. The Pats would have crazy depth from 1-5: Cooks, Edelman, Hogan, Amendola, Mitchell. On top of that we have Gronk returning and Dwayne Allen for tight ends.

That is a STACKED receiving corps!! Who do you defend??

 

[Dr Pain]

Lets be honest. Edelmen and Lima broke up and if (which I don't think will happen) Jimmy G leaves, the modeling fashion vibe of the Patriots will take a big hit. I haven't seen any plan to deal with this weakness and in my opinion there is no way we can lose Danny at this point. As an aside, he is great in the playoffs too.