Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by n6249c, Nov 7, 2019.
It’s a nit picky thing to complain about. Say whatever you want
Who is this Harry you speak of?
I really don't know why people get so bent out of shape over this "we" business. I think a lot people bring it up just to be part of the clever cool people. The entire point of being a fan is to emotionally invest in a team. "We" is expressing solidarity and ownership. It's not trying to take credit for the actual on field exploits of the team.
Interesting you talk about Harry. A decent amount of scouts compared Harry to Dez Bryant. In fact, if you watch their highlights, especially their college highlights, the similarities are really evident.
Remember when the Patriots traded the 24th spot in the 2010 draft to Dallas and the Cowboys took Dez with that pick and the Patriots took Devin McCourty at 27? That was pretty cool.
Is it wrong to assume the “we / us” crowd face paints and wears shoulder pads in their living rooms on Sundays?
Have you noticed the “we / us” usage on this board has ramped up exponentially since the Ravens game?
I fear for the long term future of the region. No wonder Brady bought a house in a different fan zone.
If I was a psyche major ready to set up practice, I’d be sprinting to greater Boston, a soon-to-be target rich environment
3pm...... Face painters
4pm......Face painters with shoulder pads
5pm.......Adults that wear jerseys
6pm.......”We & Us” Delusia
7pm.......Pats and Cats Fans
The "we" stuff happens among every fan base I've ever witnessed. When it comes to sports, some people just can't grasp the difference between who's in a group and who's not. I don't know if it's because "we" was more accurate when mom and dad were helping coach junior, taking him to practices, and paying for all his equipment, and thereby making it a team effort, or just because the "we" people are that desperate to be a part of a group. And I've mistakenly typed "we" on occasion, since I've seen it so often, though I go back and fix it if I see the error.
It's not as if people are going around with the "we" stuff when they buy a car, television, computer, or the like. They're capable of realizing that liking Apple/Sony/Samsung/HP/etc... products doesn't mean they're a member of the company. They just lose that bit of common sense when it comes to sports. They erroneously transfer the "we" of the fan base (a/k/a repeat customers) to the "we" of the team.
Who cares? This is like saying you can't say "we won the war" because you weren't in the army.
It's not an "erroneous" appellation. It's called the Twelfth Man.
This is like saying you can't say "we won the election" when your party wins, because you weren't the candidate. It's just silly and a way to look down on others.
It's absolutely nothing like that.
And it's nothing like that, either.
What we really need is a TE who can catch the ball. I'm ok with a WR corps of Edelman, Sanu, plus 3 guys from Dorchester.
Did the scouts go beyond their physical traits and look at intelligence? Have not heard great reports on Dez. The Patriots offense is complicated and selected Harry in round 1 thinking he'll grasp the system.
When a country goes to war, THE COUNTRY goes to war. The military fights it, but the country is at war, and the entire country is at risk (at least theoretically). So, the country wins/loses the war, and citizens saying "we" are 100% correct. Your argument would apply if the U.S. went to war against, say, China, and Canada was cheering for the U.S. while not participating in the battle. But, if that were the case, the U.S. wouldn't be saying "We" won, and meaning both the U.S. and Canada. The U.S. would be hearing "We won!" and would be asking "Who's 'we', Canada? You just watched from the sidelines".
When people vote in an election, their vote literally decides the election. They are, effectively, the players. Candidates cannot win without the voters. So party voters saying "We" are 100% correct.
However, as mere consumers, fans are not required for wins. And, as consumers, fans have nothing more than a rooting stake in a game. So neither of your examples is applicable.
People who understand analogies and similies
**** that. "we" are the part of the team that buys tickets, travels to home and away games, who pay for cable/satellite tv, who buy jerseys, shirts, hats, and those awesomely stupid foam fingers for our kids, who show up at parades, who show up at the airport when there isnt going to be a parade... so yes ... WE
i bet those 3 guys from Dorchester are tough as nails.
Terrell Owens is also available.
Agree completely. It's like a family member. We celebrate their successes with them. We share their "losses". Something like that.
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