Danny Amendola (hip) tore the adductor muscle; out 3-4 weeks

[Mack Herron]

What exactly was the point of rolling out a gingerly moving Danny Amendola to the practice field today??

Likely to give Schiano a sliver of doubt as to his status. I'd expect he will be listed as "limited-groin" then "questionable" and he won't play. As for continued play with a sports hernia, it is not uncommon:

Most hernia patients cannot remember a specific injury for the onset. Rather, the initial tear is compounded as a group of small tears due to continued participation in athletic activities.

Many times, a sports hernia is misdiagnosed as a groin pull, strained abdominal muscle or other injury.

Overview | Sports HerniaSports Hernia

 

[RhodyPatriot]

I think the Patriot coaching and training staff forgot to call you and ask you based upon what you have read, how should they handle what you think the injury might be. Perhaps they will wise up tomorrow.

I hope they wise up. Pretty stupid to have a guy with a torn muscle and possibly a sports hernia limping around the practice field when the whole world knows he's not playing on Sunday.

Memo to Bill: muscles heal faster when they rest. Save the PR Bill.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I think the Patriot coaching and training staff forgot to call you and ask you based upon what you have read, how should they handle what you think the injury might be. Perhaps they will wise up tomorrow.

The Patriots don't always know what they are doing

 

[PatsFanSince74]

No. My suggestion, as you put it, is that your claim was wrong. It's really that simple. BTW, since you ignored the point of my posts, it was those old players (early to mid 30's) who were heavily involved in the Patriots winning the SBs, and plenty of old players when the Patriots went 16-0, as well.

Also, Brady's the oldest player on the team, and is well into his 30's.

In other words, your point was nonsense.

Agreed, but you're wasting your breath and bandwidth.

 

[Rob0729]

Likely to give Schiano a sliver of doubt as to his status. I'd expect he will be listed as "limited-groin" then "questionable" and he won't play. As for continued play with a sports hernia, it is not uncommon:


Overview | Sports HerniaSports Hernia

Except he may not be playing with a sports hernia. Many sports hernias are misdiagnosed as a groin injury, but many, many more groin injuries are properly diagnosed as groin injuries. Maybe the two experts consulted were right and Amendola does not have a sports hernia and the one who said he has one is wrong. By this point, Amendola may have two or three other doctors telling him it isn't a sports hernia.

 

[Mack Herron]

Except he may not be playing with a sports hernia. Many sports hernias are misdiagnosed as a groin injury, but many, many more groin injuries are properly diagnosed as groin injuries. Maybe the two experts consulted were right and Amendola does not have a sports hernia and the one who said he has one is wrong. By this point, Amendola may have two or three other doctors telling him it isn't a sports hernia.

Of course. Either way he should not play.

 

[PatsFan2]

I am going say Danny Amendola comes back after our Bye-week. By then lets hope our Rookies are up to speed with Thompkins and Dobson on the outsides, AD could be a lethal 3rd down Slot WR with Edelperson. I don't think AD is a guy any Team can ride for 16 games so him relegated to the Slot and on Third Downs should keep him healthy.

 

[Kontradiction]

I am going say Danny Amendola comes back after our Bye-week. By then lets hope our Rookies are up to speed with Thompkins and Dobson on the outsides, AD could be a lethal 3rd down Slot WR with Edelperson. I don't think AD is a guy any Team can ride for 16 games so him relegated to the Slot and on Third Downs should keep him healthy.

This would be as good a week as any, it would seem. The Bucs seem to be in a bit of disarray and the heavy zone looks should give the WR's some open looks for some easy catches, which would improve their confidence (assuming they actually catch the ball).

 

[BrickPat]

Sports hernia, groin injury...I'll leave the diagnosis up to the Pats med staff. Either way it's likely Amendola will be out for a few games. Hopefully Brady hugged it out with the rooks and they start ctaching the ball.

 

[Rob0729]

Of course. Either way he should not play.

He can practice. Doing stretching exercises and light drills can speed the recovery time. He isn't doing a full practice.

And no one said he was playing.

 

[Rob0729]

This would be as good a week as any, it would seem. The Bucs seem to be in a bit of disarray and the heavy zone looks should give the WR's some open looks for some easy catches, which would improve their confidence (assuming they actually catch the ball).

Yeah, both Thompkins and Dobson beat man coverage last week. It should be easier for them to get open in zone coverage especially if Goldson doesn't play.

 

[Kontradiction]

Yeah, both Thompkins and Dobson beat man coverage last week. It should be easier for them to get open in zone coverage especially if Goldson doesn't play.

I wonder how we'll attack Tampa this week as well. In week one vs. Buffalo, the secondary was playing a ton of zone in the back end. Week two, they were playing a lot of press, trying to throw off the Jets timing. Have to think they'll go press across the board and give Talib help on Vincent Jackson while focusing on limiting Doug Martin and the running game as much as possible.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yeah, both Thompkins and Dobson beat man coverage last week. It should be easier for them to get open in zone coverage especially if Goldson doesn't play.

Is Island Revis invisible or something? I am sure he'll take one of them away.

 

[BrickPat]

He can practice. Doing stretching exercises and light drills can speed the recovery time. He isn't doing a full practice.

And no one said he was playing.

Rob- I jealously admire your relentless optimism. Amendola could lose a leg to festering gangrene and you'd take it as a great sign that he looked pretty nimble hopping on one leg.

 

[Rob0729]

Rob- I jealously admire your relentless optimism. Amendola could lose a leg to festering gangrene and you'd take it as a great sign that he looked pretty nimble hopping on one leg.

I am just countering the sky is falling negativity. But people listen to these reports and take them as gospel and then build on them to make them even worse than the report.

If you look at the report, it said either he has a pulled groin (which they make more severe by using the technical term) and/or a sports hernia. If it is a pull groin, it is a "couple weeks" injury. If it is a hernia, it is a 3-4 weeks injury. So assuming it is a pulled groin, my view isn't overly optimistic. The negative people are now acting like it is a 6-8 week injury which has not been reported by anyone.

If the reports were more dire, I would be less optimistic. But the two of the three experts we know of thinks it is a pulled groin. By now, even more doctors could agree with that diagnosis.

 

[Rob0729]

Is Island Revis invisible or something? I am sure he'll take one of them away.

He isn't an Island anymore. He plays a zone. You can have plays that the receivers aren't catching balls in his zone and his island is even lonelier. A zone defense neutralizes Revis quite a bit. He covers a certain section of the field and is not responsible to shadow a receiver all over the field. That is why after two weeks he is already upset with the system.

The Bucs are not using Revis to his full effectiveness because they have adapted Schiano's Rutgers' zone defense. Unlike Rex Ryan, Schiano won't say to Revis that his responsibility is to cover say Thompkins over the field. He will line up at LCB and cover whoever is there for 10-15 yards down the field (or whatever his responsibility is on that play) and then hand that receiver off to the safety or nickelback.

There is a reason why Brady historically eats apart zone defenses and struggles more with man defenses.

 

[Ring 6]

The Patriots don't always know what they are doing

They know better than some guy sitting at a computer with no knowledge of the facts.

 

[captain stone]

On identifying & treating an injury: Yes.
On some other matters: Not as much.

 

[captain insano]

I am just countering the sky is falling negativity. But people listen to these reports and take them as gospel and then build on them to make them even worse than the report.

If you look at the report, it said either he has a pulled groin (which they make more severe by using the technical term) and/or a sports hernia. If it is a pull groin, it is a "couple weeks" injury. If it is a hernia, it is a 3-4 weeks injury. So assuming it is a pulled groin, my view isn't overly optimistic. The negative people are now acting like it is a 6-8 week injury which has not been reported by anyone.

If the reports were more dire, I would be less optimistic. But the two of the three experts we know of thinks it is a pulled groin. By now, even more doctors could agree with that diagnosis.

dr Thomas gill former redsox doctor. if he is still the patriots doctor [I assume he is]. I would get a second and third opinion if I was amendola.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Sports hernia, groin injury...I'll leave the diagnosis up to the Pats med staff. Either way it's likely Amendola will be out for a few games. Hopefully Brady hugged it out with the rooks and they start ctaching the ball.

Is it the Pats doc's saying its a groin and he had another doc say its a hernia? Should be easy enough to get to the bottom of.
I remember when I had a hernia, for the longest time I thought I pulled my groin and the pain would go away, all it took was a doctor to grab my nuts and tell me to cough to figure it out.