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It was sixteen minutes. This was not as bad as the Stingley incident. Ondrej Pavelec, Jordan Sigalet, Garrett Klotz - please don't pretend it's different because it's not the same sport. All of the concern and attention is great. Hard to believe Alexei Cherepanov would not be alive today if his treatment wasn't delayed if the ambulance hadn't left and had to be called back.

This was no more traumatic than any of the more than fifty incidents I've seen in football. The Bills just decided to be babies. I'm not disagreeing with your statement that 'times have changed'. I'm simply stating that it's for the worse.
I think Hamlin's cardiac arrest has to rank pretty high on the list of traumatic events to happen on a football field ... certainly in recent memory. Anyone trying to trivialize the weight of what occurred is way off the mark IMO.

I do agree that the NFL's handling of the situation, the neutral site resolution, and the way the Bills/NFL (and Hamlin himself) monetized and pivoted this event into a marketing/publicity opportunity, feels really slimy and uncomfortable.

Hamlin, for instance, began selling t-shirts reading "We All Won" less than a week after he collapsed. Granted, the proceeds are said to go to first-responders ... but would a donation not have been a much more appropriate way to achieve that, in lieu of a self-promoting t-shirt sale?
 
It was sixteen minutes. This was not as bad as the Stingley incident. Ondrej Pavelec, Jordan Sigalet, Garrett Klotz - please don't pretend it's different because it's not the same sport. All of the concern and attention is great. Hard to believe Alexei Cherepanov would not be alive today if his treatment wasn't delayed if the ambulance hadn't left and had to be called back.

This was no more traumatic than any of the more than fifty incidents I've seen in football. The Bills just decided to be babies. I'm not disagreeing with your statement that 'times have changed'. I'm simply stating that it's for the worse.

The wisest man I ever knew was my dear old Grandfather. He had sage advice for most things but my favourite was something that I think about often and live by. That piece of advice was:

"It's important to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out".

I think yours are on the floor, bud.
 
The guy was dead.
And no less responsive than the ones I mentioned above. With no more urgency by medics to treat him. And no more concern from teammates and no more worry from fans.

It's insulting to all the others before whose lives were in no less danger, several of whom never fully recovered and some of whom really did die.
 
The wisest man I ever knew was my dear old Grandfather. He had sage advice for most things but my favourite was something that I think about often and live by. That piece of advice was:

"It's important to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out".

I think yours are on the floor, bud.
At least I have some
 
I think Hamlin's cardiac arrest has to rank pretty high on the list of traumatic events to happen on a football field ... certainly in recent memory. Anyone trying to trivialize the weight of what occurred is way off the mark IMO.

I do agree that the NFL's handling of the situation, the neutral site resolution, and the way the Bills/NFL (and Hamlin himself) monetized and pivoted this event into a marketing/publicity opportunity, feels really slimy and uncomfortable.

Hamlin, for instance, began selling t-shirts reading "We All Won" less than a week after he collapsed. Granted, the proceeds are said to go to first-responders ... but would a donation not have been a much more appropriate way to achieve that, in lieu of a self-promoting t-shirt sale?
'trivialize'?

The rest of your post is good, but obviously lots of members here need reading lessons
 
And no less responsive than the ones I mentioned above. With no more urgency by medics to treat him. And no more concern from teammates and no more worry from fans.

It's insulting to all the others before whose lives were in no less danger, several of whom never fully recovered and some of whom really did die.
Were any of the others you mentioned above dead at the time of the incident? Just curious.
 
The Bills have a dilemma.

Will they allow Hamlin to come back and play knowing what they know now? What if this happens again and Hamlin is not so fortunate?
 
The Bills have a dilemma.

Will they allow Hamlin to come back and play knowing what they know now? What if this happens again and Hamlin is not so fortunate?
The hospital said their test results showed no evidence of a pre-existing heart defect condition. Seems likely it was the result of a once in a million blow that caused the CA.
 
It means she's no longer on the forum.
Ok. Not gloating at all over her difficulties: just surprised. I may not have paid adequate attention to the date of the post. Thank you.
 
Were any of the others you mentioned above dead at the time of the incident? Just curious.
At least half a dozen of the injuries I witnessed had a player who was unresponsive; that is, they might as well have been dead. What's the difference between someone whose heart stopped and another player who heads to the morgue later? Hamlin was resuscitated. You're making my point for me.
 
I’m glad he survived the event and it seems like he’s recovered to the point of being able to show up to the team’s facility.

But, despite “being cleared”, I’d be nervous if I was a loved one. Very nervous.
 
Reggie Lewis was "fully cleared" too.

If I were Hamlin, I would take what happened as a sign and get out while I could.
 
Reggie Lewis was "fully cleared" too.

If I were Hamlin, I would take what happened as a sign and get out while I could.
I agree. He seems like he is already doing the rounds as an ambassador for CPR training and defibrillators amongst various teams. I am sure the NFL would back him on that and he could have a safer and probably longer career doing that.
 
Now that he has confirmed a diagnosis of commotio cordis, Hamlin is at no increased risk of it happening again than any other player on the field. That said, there is obviously a significant mental hurdle to get over with nfl game contact.
 
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