Coronavirus RESPECTFUL Discussion Only! (Mod edit: Closed)

[FirstAndGoal]

You guys watching the local news? I didn't catch all of it but Baker talking about needing supplies and Trump telling him to purchase it on his own. Baker responded that they are trying but the Feds are snatching up all the orders... seems there's still a cluster**** going on... :/

 

[skinnydog]

Yes he did. He said it. It's quoted in many places.

Trump fell asleep at switch as COVID-19 spread

"At a campaign rally in South Carolina on Feb. 28 the president claimed Democrats had politicized the coronavirus outbreak and it was “their new hoax”."

5 times Trump and US officials downplayed coronavirus as the administration struggled to prepare for the growing pandemic

""The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax.""

Actually, he called the Dems critique of his response a hoax. Not the virus itself. He had already set up a task force on it by the end of January and they held a press conference about it. Not sure anyone from the press attended as they were all were all wrapped up in the impeachment hearings.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yes he did. He said it. It's quoted in many places.

Trump fell asleep at switch as COVID-19 spread

"At a campaign rally in South Carolina on Feb. 28 the president claimed Democrats had politicized the coronavirus outbreak and it was “their new hoax”."

5 times Trump and US officials downplayed coronavirus as the administration struggled to prepare for the growing pandemic

""The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus," Trump said. "One of my people came up to me and said, 'Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.' That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. ... They tried anything. ... And this is their new hoax.""

He wasn't calling the virus a hoax. He was calling out the media/Dems about its coverage.


FFS, this is exactly what I've been talking about with you clowns not bothering to get your facts and context straight.

 

[mosi]

The number of celebrities with this is going to be voluminous. Hearing about so-and-so won't even register soon.

Well, the proportion will be similar to the rest of the American public. Those guys are getting tested. The rest of the population is not. If this gets close to the same levels as in Germany, France and Spain, it will be very painful.

 

[LuRkeR1978]

And this is their new hoax."

"Their new hoax", not "It's a hoax"

English is hard.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Italy is now #1 in COVID-19 deaths, surpassing China.

Regards,
Chris

 

[primetime]

In truth everyone who isn't a party lackey have been killed by both Stalin and Mao, and basically every communist leader, since communism and totalitarianism are like pb & j.

Actually strongly recommend China Mieville's October, he's a novelist so it's actually a readable history but is both celebratory of the utopian aspects of the Russian Revolution while also explaining how the seeds of Stalinist terror were sowed. Similarly suggest Eric Hobsbawm's Age of (Revolution, Capital, Empire, Extremes) series for a history of 1789-1991. Both authors are Marxists and it informs their history but neither is heavily ideological and both are heavily critical of Actually Existing Socialism. (Hobsbawm stayed in the British Communist Party when all the Trots left but was critical of Stalin so they quickly expelled him; every Cold War commie in the UK hated him, but he was also the only right one.)

 

[RobertWeathers]

I am probably closest to an ancom but I am not a goddamn Trot, very different things, very important distinctions to people with obscure, esoteric, politically meaningless beliefs like myself. Never call me a Trot again!!!1

I apologize profusely kind sir.

...as long as you aren't a Bernie guy

 

[Nunchucks]

Actually, he called the Dems critique of his response a hoax. Not the virus itself. He had already set up a task force on it by the end of January and they held a press conference about it. Not sure anyone from the press attended as they were all were all wrapped up in the impeachment hearings.

Ah yes, here coming the parsing of the language that will allow his followers to believe anything he says.

 

[maust]

Well you know you gotta respect Stalin, GOAT Nazi Killer.

Pretty fair commie killer too and that's just if you only count his own countrymen

 

[primetime]

I had you pegged for a Trotsky. Oh well.

Leon Trotsky: The Curve of Capitalist Development (1923)

This journal probably comes closest to my politics: Endnotes

Actuallt strongly recommend this essay in light of current events: Misery and Debt by Endnotes

 

[RobertWeathers]

Actually strongly recommend China Mieville's October, he's a novelist so it's actually a readable history but is both celebratory of the utopian aspects of the Russian Revolution while also explaining how the seeds of Stalinist terror were sowed. Similarly suggest Eric Hobsbawm's Age of (Revolution, Capital, Empire, Extremes) series for a history of 1789-1991. Both authors are Marxists and it informs their history but neither is heavily ideological and both are heavily critical of Actually Existing Socialism. (Hobsbawm stayed in the British Communist Party when all the Trots left but was critical of Stalin so they quickly expelled him; every Cold War commie in the UK hated him, but he was also the only right one.)

 

[primetime]

Pretty fair commie killer too and that's just if you only count his own countrymen

Oh definitely, number 1 Nazi and communist killer of all time. Really topped the leaderboards.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Anyone know if china is using some type of vaccine? Notice it hasn’t been as bad. Italy is just awful.

 

[maust]

I apologize profusely kind sir.

...as long as you aren't a Bernie guy

Cause there is such a thing as going too far

 

[RobertWeathers]

This journal probably comes closest to my politics: Endnotes

Actuallt strongly recommend this essay in light of current events: Misery and Debt by Endnotes

I'm actually going to read this tonight. I'll hit you up with some commentary/your thoughts tomorrow

 

[primetime]

Anyone know if china is using some type of vaccine? Notice it hasn’t been as bad. Italy is just awful.

China instituted military-enforced lockdowns of major cities for six weeks. That said, their curve also increased quickly at first too. Eventuallt the curves will bend, just depends where the peak is.

 

[maust]

Oh definitely, number 1 Nazi and communist killer of all time. Really topped the leaderboards.

That's what I'm saying, no one can question his commitment to his craft

 

[venecol]

You guys watching the local news? I didn't catch all of it but Baker talking about needing supplies and Trump telling him to purchase it on his own. Baker responded that they are trying but the Feds are snatching up all the orders... seems there's still a cluster**** going on... :/

At today's conference he was asked why he had not enacted the Defense act he authorized yesterday. He said it was up to the Governors to get their own supplies and equipment, that he wasn't a mail clerk.

I shyt you not. He said I'm not a mail clerk. WTF

This is the problem when you have a guy that doesn't believe in government and has zero experience trying to run things.

I worked for guys like him half my life. They have a problem they call a consultant or contractor to resolve it or fix it. You can't do that in government. You have to do it with your own forces, which requires having to work with the bureaucracy that he doesn't believe in. ***********.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Oh definitely, number 1 Nazi and communist killer of all time. Really topped the leaderboards.

30m....nice round number.