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That’s what happens with exponential growth.
It seems like nothing is happening and then of a sudden HOLY CRAP.
I did my math last night. Scary ****.
 
I've seen Corynyn at my church in Washington. He's actually a good guy.
So you’re one of those people who can tell the quality of the fruit from an eye test. How are we not surprised?
 
I've seen Corynyn at my church in Washington. He's actually a good guy.
I'm sure he is but in times like these some people want their govt to be serious. I personally don't care. Just bad optics imo
 
Not to pick on JetFan79, but this is a good example of where claims need context, but aren't getting it in this thread. Fact Check: WH Dissolved Pandemic Unit but Did Not 'Fire the Entire White House Pandemic Team'
You're quoting a "fact check" from BREITBART?! That's a blatant contradiction in terms. OF COURSE Breitbart will spin this travesty to favor Trump. Stop with such nonsense. Following are multiple links to the truth, you can't dismiss them all in favor of your apparent affirmation bias. (Or maybe you can.) Just to be clear, let's not parse this down to the vague differences between "fire," "dismiss," "disband" and "make someone uncomfortable enough to resign." The bottom line is a life-saving agency went bye-bye under Trump's watch.

Link: https://www.washingtonpost.com

Link: Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised

Link: How Trump Made America Far Less Prepared For Coronavirus
Just over a year ago, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence sounded alarms about America’s vulnerability to a major public health crisis. “We assess that the United States and the world will remain vulnerable to the next flu pandemic or large scale outbreak of a contagious disease,” the DNI reported in January 2019, “that could lead to massive rates of death and disability, severely affect the world economy, strain international resources, and increase calls on the United States for support.” But Donald Trump put his head in the sand. After slashing federal pandemic response teams and kneecapping other public health initiatives throughout his first term, he failed to prioritize the potential for outbreak, declining to devote adequate resources to the looming threat. Now, as the DNI’s grim forecast last year proves correct, the United States’ national security apparatus is scrambling both to address a growing crisis in the country—and, potentially, within its ranks.

Link: Former director of White House pandemic office says disbanding unit left U.S. "less prepared" for COVID-19 in op-ed
A former senior director of the National Security Council's dissolved pandemic unit said its closure left the United States "less prepared" for the COVID-19 outbreak. Beth Cameron wrote in an op-ed for The Washington Post that the Trump administration's response to the novel coronavirus had been "slow and inadequate," and suggested that the closure of the Directorate for Global Health Security and Biodefense had contributed to its "sluggish" response.

Link: Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised (Associated Press)
Link: Trump disbanded NSC pandemic unit that experts had praised (ABC News)
WASHINGTON -- Public health and national security experts shake their heads when President Donald Trump says the coronavirus "came out of nowhere" and “blindsided the world.” They've been warning about the next pandemic for years and criticized the Trump administration's decision in 2018 to dismantle a National Security Council directorate at the White House charged with preparing for when, not if, another pandemic would hit the nation. Trump's elimination of the office suggested, along with his proposed budget cuts for the CDC, that he did not see the threat of pandemics in the same way that many experts in the field did.

Link: Did Trump Administration Fire the US Pandemic Response Team?
Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer abruptly departed from his post leading the global health security team on the National Security Council in May 2018 amid a reorganization of the council by then-National Security Advisor John Bolton, and Ziemer’s team was disbanded. Tom Bossert, whom the Washington Post reported “had called for a comprehensive biodefense strategy against pandemics and biological attacks,” had been fired one month prior. It’s thus true that the Trump administration axed the executive branch team responsible for coordinating a response to a pandemic and did not replace it, eliminating Ziemer’s position and reassigning others, although Bolton was the executive at the top of the National Security Council chain of command at the time.

Link: Former pandemic team leader details the damage Trump did by kneecapping our response capability
So when Donald Trump says he doesn’t take responsibility at all for the lack of testing — well, that’s about as outrageous as it gets. The only thing that’s more outrageous is his risible and craven attempt to blame Obama

Link: Sign Petition: Trump fired America's pandemic response team. Demand he reassemble it to confront the coronavirus pa
Over the past three years the Trump administration has systematically dismantled much of our nation's defenses for responding to just such a pandemic, slashing staff and "disease-fighting operational budgets" at various critical agencies including the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), the Department of Health and Human Services, (HHS), and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). In a particularly damning piece of reporting, Foreign Policy noted, "The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10."
 
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So you’re one of those people who can tell the quality of the fruit from an eye test. How are we not surprised?

How stupid are you? You look at one tweet and judge a person's character and then accuse me of doing the eye test?
 
I'm sure he is but in times like these some people want their govt to be serious. I personally don't care. Just bad optics imo

I agree it's bad optics...but you can't judge a person by one tweet/photo. We could do a lot worse than John Corynyn in the US Senate.
 
I agree it's bad optics...but you can't judge a person by one tweet/photo. We could do a lot worse than John Corynyn in the US Senate.
Only thing I'm judging him on is his inability to understand how this will be perceived by his constituents and the general public. Just not smart imo.
 
You're quoting a "fact check" from BREITBART?! That's a blatant contradiction in terms.

No, it's not, particularly when I was using it to show context (shuffling as opposed to firing, among other things), in this case.

Not to pick on JetFan79, but this is a good example of where claims need context, but aren't getting it in this thread.

The silliness of you claiming it is, while quoting Snopes, says all that needs to be said about your posting in this thread.

I mean, you quote Snopes and DailyKos, and ***** about Breitbart?

 
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Only thing I'm judging him on is his inability to understand how this will be perceived by his constituents and the general public. Just not smart imo.

It's a tweet with a bottle of corona...it doesn't say where he was. It could be from any bar in any city. They are making it look like he's on vacation somewhere, but this is not clear from the tweet.
 
How stupid are you? You look at one tweet and judge a person's character and then accuse me of doing the eye test?
I never made a comment about his character. Do not put words where they do not belong.
 
I never made a comment about his character. Do not put words where they do not belong.

Then you can make the same comment towards a bunch of people on this forum for judging based on the eye test. But you picked on me, so it's pretty clear you are doing because of politics.
 
It's a tweet with a bottle of corona...it doesn't say where he was. It could be from any bar in any city. They are making it look like he's on vacation somewhere, but this is not clear from the tweet.
It doesn't matter where he was.

Look- I understand what he was trying to do which is to add a little levity and calmness to a tough situation. It doesn't make him a bad person but a lot of people who are scared or are being impacted by the virus I'm sure don't appreciate it.
 
No, it's not, particularly when I was using it to show context (shuffling as opposed to firing, among other things, in this case).

The silliness of you claiming it is, while quoting Snopes, says all that needs to be said about your posting in this thread.

I mean, you quote Snopes and DailyKos, and ***** about Breitbart?


Yes, and you might note that I listed them last anticipating you copping out over it. Go ahead and disregard them (although they're not off the mark in adding exclamation to the previous listed sources). Just to be clear, let's not parse this down to the vague differences between "fire," "dismiss," "disband," "shuffle" and "make someone uncomfortable enough to resign." The bottom line is a life-saving agency went bye-bye under Trump's watch.
 
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We have a new sport to follow!

 
Then you can make the same comment towards a bunch of people on this forum for judging based on the eye test. But you picked on me, so it's pretty clear you are doing because of politics.
I don't make comments about a person I have not interacted with other than to "see" or "be in" the same room.

I may not agree with the Senator from Texas' politics but if you see my post quoting some Jimmy Buffet lyrics that I also add "or, no?" because the truth is not known. You perhaps need to be more circumspect in what "appears to be true," and yes, I know it is not easy.
 
It doesn't matter where he was.

Look- I understand what he was trying to do which is to add a little levity and calmness to a tough situation. It doesn't make him a bad person but a lot of people who are scared or are being impacted by the virus I'm sure don't appreciate it.

I'd rather have a little light heartedness at this time when the media is doing nothing but showing images of people going nuts at Walmart like it's the apocalypse.
 
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