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[DaBruinz]

Honestly though why are we worrying about our tactics while we are on an 8-game winning streak? Obviously they are working pretty well right now, unless I'm mistaken?

Cause I see a flaw in our game. Mainly the lack of RB depth.. And it will come to haunt us if we don't take care of it.

We are hardly perfect as today's game showed us.

 

[tobias funke]

I don't mean you should have known he is inactive based on his page. But anyone at 17 energy isn't getting close to 100 for a month unless they sit out of every game for 2 weeks.

 

[tobias funke]

Cause I see a flaw in our game. Mainly the lack of RB depth.. And it will come to haunt us if we don't take care of it.

We are hardly perfect as today's game showed us.

On that note, I have a friend with a level 13 (maybe 14 now) FS whose team is terrible and would like to join us as soon as the season is over. I told him we could probably get him a spot considering that we lost our starter.

He said his owner may be open to a trade but I don't know what we would have to give up for him, so since he is willing to join as soon as the season ends we might want to wait until then.

 

[fnordcircle]

Cause I see a flaw in our game. Mainly the lack of RB depth.. And it will come to haunt us if we don't take care of it.

We are hardly perfect as today's game showed us.

I see a flaw in our game too, we're not all L16's like Tobias but you know, we do what we can. I dunno I don't mean to sound snide it's just there's always going to be problems but I'm not gonna make another RB and I'm not gonna bring an outsider onto the team just yet because we're making do as it stands.

Until Tatupu goes onto relaxed training or someone else comes up with a RB like Tobias suggested above I don't have any answers to this problem other than giving our backup FB some carries and extra XP.

 

[DaBruinz]

I don't mean you should have known he is inactive based on his page. But anyone at 17 energy isn't getting close to 100 for a month unless they sit out of every game for 2 weeks.

Tobias, I do have my own team in this game, so I do know some of the ins and outs. What you said isn't true. It would only take a player 3 days of not being on the depth chart and his training set to NONE followed by 2 days of training set to relaxed and not being on the depth chart, for the player to get to 100%. At worst, that is 3 games. Not the nearly 2 weeks you proclaim. Heck, if he were go go relaxed for 6 days, with no games, (again, that is only 3) then he'd be back to full as well.

Also, There is no way for me to know what his energy is because energy is not shown to people who aren't GMs/Owners of the team.

Nothing that you've said has changed the fact that we are short at HB right now. If Mosi continues to disappear for days on end and not take care of his energy, then, as a team, we need to look at replacing him. Heck, I'm surprised we haven't looked at that already, to be honest.

 

[DaBruinz]

I see a flaw in our game too, we're not all L16's like Tobias but you know, we do what we can. I dunno I don't mean to sound snide it's just there's always going to be problems but I'm not gonna make another RB and I'm not gonna bring an outsider onto the team just yet because we're making do as it stands.

Until Tatupu goes onto relaxed training or someone else comes up with a RB like Tobias suggested above I don't have any answers to this problem other than giving our backup FB some carries and extra XP.

Mongo doesn't get extra XP for running the ball. You get xp based on the number of plays you are in. And there is a maximum XP you can earn in each game based on the level you get to. For level 13 its 258. For level 14, I think its 244. Also, you get your max XP by 50 plays according to what the game's creator has posts.

As for Tatupu, again, as I said, I had no idea he was at 17 energy. That's one of the things players can't see about other players on the team unless they have Owner/GM priveleges. I'm all for removing him off the depth chart totally so that whatever energy he gets isn't used up..

As for a RB.. I'll make one. Since you can't upgrade your custom EQ at level 16, I've got some flexpoints I can spend. He'll only be level 4 to start, but its better than having no one at all.

P.S. What sort of RB do we need? Scat back or Power? Let me know so I can build accordingly.

 

[tobias funke]

Tobias, I do have my own team in this game, so I do know some of the ins and outs. What you said isn't true. It would only take a player 3 days of not being on the depth chart and his training set to NONE followed by 2 days of training set to relaxed and not being on the depth chart, for the player to get to 100%. At worst, that is 3 games. Not the nearly 2 weeks you proclaim. Heck, if he were go go relaxed for 6 days, with no games, (again, that is only 3) then he'd be back to full as well.

Also, There is no way for me to know what his energy is because energy is not shown to people who aren't GMs/Owners of the team.

Nothing that you've said has changed the fact that we are short at HB right now. If Mosi continues to disappear for days on end and not take care of his energy, then, as a team, we need to look at replacing him. Heck, I'm surprised we haven't looked at that already, to be honest.

I dunno I didn't really want to argue about it. You think we need another HB, I get it. I also wouldn't want to rely on a player whose owner lets him run down to 17 energy unless they say they're going to be around.

Anyways, I sort of see the game the way fnordcircle does, as far as not going out and trying to fix every possible flaw that comes up by going out and finding more players for depth at X position, or going crazy with the tactic changes after a win.

If someone from the forum wants to join the team, or if someone has a friend who wants in and there can possibly be a spot for them, I'd rather see that then going on a mad dash to fill depth with random people.

 

[ALP]

hey hey, no need to be bringing in an FS, my SS is just starting to play good at the position

 

[DaBruinz]

I dunno I didn't really want to argue about it. You think we need another HB, I get it. I also wouldn't want to rely on a player whose owner lets him run down to 17 energy unless they say they're going to be around.

As I said, I didn't know he was down to 17 for energy. I agree, that's an owner that really isn't reliable. Could things have come up? Yep. Life happens. Give the guy the benefit of the doubt by messaging him to find out what's wrong. If he doesn't reply. Bench him until he returns. If he doesn't return, dump him. I had to dump my most productive RB off my team for the same reason.

Anyways, I sort of see the game the way fnordcircle does, as far as not going out and trying to fix every possible flaw that comes up by going out and finding more players for depth at X position, or going crazy with the tactic changes after a win.

I'm not calling for "crazy tactic changes" by any stretch of the imagination. I'm not saying for us to start running the ball 70 times a game and forget the pass. Adjusting the advanced energy tactics slightly to help spread out the load isn't anything major. Giving the FBs more carries so that Maroney stays fresher isn't bad either. Especially since Mongo and Paulin are both built to be bruisers. In fact, running them helps wear a defense down better. I mean, Paulin is breaking tackles on every run he makes or just about. Also, take into consideration that he saw 54 plays today and his energy dropped to a whopping 87. My stamina is 36.7. So I could do some running plays without issue. Whether its putting Mongo as the lead blocker or running straight from the FB position. (Speed is 27.99 btw). With my strength being 33.5, I'm damn near a young Michael Pittman..(ok, a bit of an exageration, but I do have a 4.8 YPC right now)

If someone from the forum wants to join the team, or if someone has a friend who wants in and there can possibly be a spot for them, I'd rather see that then going on a mad dash to fill depth with random people.

Not saying to go on a "mad dash" to fill depth with random people. Mark_NH is here on Patsfans.com and he has players, but not on this team. There are other people who play and have voiced disappointment in this thread because they didn't realize that we'd formed a team.

 

[tobias funke]

Honestly I think you should re-read your original post about this stuff and realize the tone you wrote it in. Then I think you'll understand why you're getting these kinds of responses.

I notice that your tone now is much different than it was when you first brought this stuff up. I agree with what you're saying about utilizing the FB runs a little more.

In other news, this goal line stand is my personal favorite:

1:11 1st & G OPP 9 Joe Kool rush up the middle (1.5 yd gain) [tackle: Tobias Funke] Replay
1:08 2nd & G OPP 7.5 Jake Palmer pass to Alex Noble up the right side [deflected by Tobias Funke] (incomplete) Replay
1:05 3rd & G OPP 7.5 Jake Palmer pass to Alex Noble up the right side [deflected by Pietro Maximoff] (incomplete) Replay
0:56 4th & G OPP 7.5 24.5 yd field goal attempted by Bret Easton Ellis, missed

 

[BradyFTW!]

Tough one tonight, but we've got the heart of a champion. After a few weeks of being quiet, David Cross layed the lumber to lead the team in tackles. Kind of suprised my man Chris Boynkins didn't even have a stat in 60 snaps though.

A question about defensive playcall: Does anyone know why we consistently drop our ends into coverage? If it's just part of the game, I need to increase my attributes to be a better coverage guy.

All in all, a w is a w...looking foreward to posting another one.

I have no idea why that is either. Kind of annoys me, since Kazenzakis is an all-out pass rusher, and has no coverage skills to speak of besides being fast and agile.

 

[DaBruinz]

I have no idea why that is either. Kind of annoys me, since Kazenzakis is an all-out pass rusher, and has no coverage skills to speak of besides being fast and agile.

I don't know what the tactics setting are for our team, but when the Ends drop back, its usually in zone coverage from what I've seen in the replays.

Not sure what were set at for Zone coverage in the tactics, but that could be what you're seeing.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I don't know what the tactics setting are for our team, but when the Ends drop back, its usually in zone coverage from what I've seen in the replays.

Not sure what were set at for Zone coverage in the tactics, but that could be what you're seeing.

Makes sense, but we play very little zone. With Barkley and Maximoff both having significant points in shutdown corner, we can afford to play a lot of man to man.

Also, why is everyone so concerned after a nine point win against a team that, statistically, is even with us if you exclude kicking? You can't win every game by 60 points.

 

[DaBruinz]

Makes sense, but we play very little zone. With Barkley and Maximoff both having significant points in shutdown corner, we can afford to play a lot of man to man.

Also, why is everyone so concerned after a nine point win against a team that, statistically, is even with us if you exclude kicking? You can't win every game by 60 points.

When you say "we play very little zone" that tells me nothing in terms of the tactics % settings. Also, I was just referencing what I have noticed when watching replays. Usually, when a DE drops back, he's dropping into zone coverage..

What I brought up was an issue with the running game. One in which, admittedly, I didn't have a key piece of information (Tatupu's energy level). When I got that piece, I offered up some solutions on how to take care of that issue (another HB, changing the energy sub settings, running the FB position more). When I offered up the solutions, they were for LONG term as well as short term. Things that I know work and shouldn't hurt this team, but, in fact, help it be even better.

Its also something I mentioned after the previous game as well, but people glossed over it.

I know we can't win them all by 60, but we can sure improve upon games that we weren't exactly great in.

 

[BradyFTW!]

When you say "we play very little zone" that tells me nothing in terms of the tactics % settings. Also, I was just referencing what I have noticed when watching replays. Usually, when a DE drops back, he's dropping into zone coverage..

70/30 split for man to man vs. zone. As the DC, I tweak the defensive settings for every game to match our upcoming opponent.

I get your point- we need more RB depth. I'm not 100% certain that I agree with it, to be honest. We pass far more than we rush, there's no injury risk, and I highly doubt that Maroney is going to up and leave the team (since his owner is the team owner). After Maroney, we have two existing capable bruisers on our roster in Paulin and Mongo.

If the issue is getting more carries for Paulin and Mongo, then that's something that we can adjust on a game-by-game basis. Once again, though, Maroney is #2 in rushing yards in the Alpha conference. Our strategy is hardly flawed.

I agree that we can always improve, but I wouldn't make too much out of only beating the Seahawks by 9. The Seahawks are a better team than their record indicates, and nobody beats them by very much. They beat Tasmania by two TDs, beat Auckland, and lost to Carabao by the exact same score that they lost to us. The only time that they lost big was in week 1, and there's a good chance that they've had a lot of roster turnover since then. We're not perfect, but we're getting better, and a nine point win against a good team isn't a red flag.

 

[The Hurricane]

When you say "we play very little zone" that tells me nothing in terms of the tactics % settings. Also, I was just referencing what I have noticed when watching replays. Usually, when a DE drops back, he's dropping into zone coverage..

What I brought up was an issue with the running game. One in which, admittedly, I didn't have a key piece of information (Tatupu's energy level). When I got that piece, I offered up some solutions on how to take care of that issue (another HB, changing the energy sub settings, running the FB position more). When I offered up the solutions, they were for LONG term as well as short term. Things that I know work and shouldn't hurt this team, but, in fact, help it be even better.

Its also something I mentioned after the previous game as well, but people glossed over it.

I know we can't win them all by 60, but we can sure improve upon games that we weren't exactly great in.

You still have yet to point out why you decided to champion the cause of an owner who logs in every 10 days or so and leaves both of his players on intense training no matter how low their energy goes. Our running game has been fine. Would it be nice to have a reliable speed back (one with agility too)? Of course. But I dont see any reason why Mongo is a bad second option at RB in lieu of said speed back.

 

[BradyFTW!]

You still have yet to point out why you decided to champion the cause of an owner who logs in every 10 days or so and leaves both of his players on intense training no matter how low their energy goes. Our running game has been fine. Would it be nice to have a reliable speed back (one with agility too)? Of course. But I dont see any reason why Mongo is a bad second option at RB in lieu of said speed back.

To be fair, DaBruinz didn't realize that Mosi's energy was that low. I agree with the jist of what you said, though.

 

[DaBruinz]

You still have yet to point out why you decided to champion the cause of an owner who logs in every 10 days or so and leaves both of his players on intense training no matter how low their energy goes. Our running game has been fine. Would it be nice to have a reliable speed back (one with agility too)? Of course. But I dont see any reason why Mongo is a bad second option at RB in lieu of said speed back.

First off, I wasn't trying to "champion the cause of a player who logs in every 10 days or so". I had no idea that Mosi logged in so infrequently. As I said, when I looked, he did not have the inactive tag. The point of my original post was to point out what seemed to be a discrepency in playing time and what seemed to be favoritism towards Mongo.

Second, as I said, there is no way for me to know what his energy was at since only owners and GMs have access to the energy levels. I've admitted that I didn't know that his energy was so friggin low and I said he should be BENCHED. Also, with the energy being low, while indicative of an irresponsible person who has the player, also signals that pre-emptive measures weren't taken by the management to ensure that he didn't get that low. But

Third, Mongo's job is a FB, which is primarily to block. And it was irritating to see him getting all the extra carries and my guy not getting squat. With only 3 "backs" on the team who are active, there is no reason to have Tatupu on the depth chart when he's never around and there is no reason to not be spreading the back-up carries out. Particularly when my guy seems to break between 1 and 3 tackles each carry.

Fourth, before you post next time, please read all the messages on a topic before throwing in your two cents instead of just the last one. Had you done so, you'd have seen where I addressed the fact that I did not know his energy was low and AGREED that he shouldn't be playing. Hence my suggestion to take him off the depth chart entirely. Because having him there when his energy is so low only prolongs his energy being low and it doesn't help the team in any way, shape, or form.

And lastly, the game is ever changing. Its ignorant to think that just because injuries aren't an issue now, that they won't be an issue at some point. They could get implemented in the next week for all we know. So, while the "running game is good" I'd rather make it better and have the pieces in place to be prepared for changes rather than have to scramble at the last minute and bring in an inferior back-up that hurts the team.

 

[GoWhalers]

I was going to stay out of this, but the situation seems to be heading downhill...

Since my character is on special teams, the only time he sees the field with the offense is filling in as a backup RB.

That said, I think the best solution is to just give the FB position a few more carries if possible. That should get DaBruinz the additional carries he wants. Whatever touches I get are OK by me.

 

[fnordcircle]

I was going to stay out of this, but the situation seems to be heading downhill...

Since my character is on special teams, the only time he sees the field with the offense is filling in as a backup RB.

That said, I think the best solution is to just give the FB position a few more carries if possible. That should get DaBruinz the additional carries he wants. Whatever touches I get are OK by me.

Going down hill? If this is the extent of the drama we get then we're doing fine, actually.

I have 2 chars one on our team one on another team, on the other team my RB has been backup for a season and a half now. I noticed that he was a higher level than the starter, asked why I was the backup and the starter flipped out, called me all sorts of names and then quit the team in a rage when he was told that they would be alternating our starts until he was a higher level. Like the guy was the starter for something along the lines of 25 games and couldn't handle not starting ONCE.

Depth Chart drama is the name of the game with GLB and the bottom line is that there are going to be 22 happy people and everyone else is going to be degrees of pissed. Not much that can be done.