Discussion in 'PatsFans.com - Patriots Fan Forum' started by Biffins, Mar 21, 2020.
It’s self evident given Brady signed a reasonable (not even top 10 qb money) contract we could afford. He didn’t leave for money. Hence we pushed him out by not offering anything reasonable and frankly not even talking to him. All those insider reports we were dismissing of growing dissatisfaction in Brady’s camp...... well apparently you can’t dismiss them anymore as they were all true.
An entire page of this thread for yourself.
Time to take your temperature, blow your nose, and get in line for a test.
Just reading through and replying to others. Common curtesy.
That's your proof?
Take a breath, we got your unproven point, "you like Brady."
And massively dislike this stupidity by BB and Kraft.
Maybe it is time to join Brady with TB as fan? You have proven you dislike BB & Kraft. You have made this point clear over and over again.
I was unaware there was this many brady haters. That it was all bill and brady was just here for the ride.
No wonder he left.
This is one of those issues we may never know the full story, meanwhile a great opportunity to bash Mr. Kraft. To say he is not a good owner, many have never met Victor Kiam..
Throughout his career #12 was alleged to be a "system QB" and now he has the opportunity to prove otherwise.. last year Tampa Bay allowed 459 points to be scored against them while the Pats allowed 225.. so he may lead a highly touted O, but may have to often play catch up.
There is an often heard adage that we have learned from the Pats, "It is better to let go of a player a year early, rather than a year late".. from my big comfy couch thought he had fallen off significantly last year. Elbow issues were reported.. stay tuned folks, will prove interesting.
You keep saying $25m but it's $29.5m when incentives are taken into account. Plus the dead cap hit from the previous contract if the Patriots signed him. For an aging quarterback whose best days are behind him and who looked, at times, like he was falling off last season.
You can only use void years to shift bonuses, so it's hard to see how they could have pushed $18m to 2022, as you claim. Note that the Bucs structured the contract such that there's no signing bonus, so it's all (guaranteed) salary and roster bonuses. The $59m they're giving him is real money, none of it is salary in fake years at the end of the contract to inflate the paper value.
To equal what he's getting from the Bucs, the Patriots would have had to essentially pay Brady $30m guaranteed in 2020 and 2021. If half of what they gave him ($30m) was a signing bonus, we could have decreased the cap hit in 2020 by $5m if they used one void year (since the $30m bonus would be spread across 3 years rather than 2). So it would have been... $25m, plus his dad cap hit. Which is more than they could afford if they wanted to have any semblance of a football team.
The problem is you have zero idea how the salary cap charge is calculated under the CBA and you think void years are some magical cheat code.
30 ints and Mr. Crab thief threw 7 pick 6. Seven! Seven. Threw 24 ints in own 0-50yds.
Hell, that was a tough ask of the defense. Brady will be fine, only thing fighting against him is time.
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Wickersham put up a new article. He's been getting his info from Brady, who hasn't been happy here for the last few years apparently.
It's over. Nothing to do but move on and hope Belichick was right, and Kraft was right to not step in. It sucks that it ended like this, but the constant TB12 fans vs Patriots fans is getting old in every single thread.
I know I can be both but The constant TB12 fan vs Patriots fan in my own head is enough to drive one mad.
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He left because he wasn't going to spend his last two years surrounded by this garbage personnel. Swap Tampa Bay's wr, te and rb group with ours, and he's still a Patriot.
HOWEVER, I will say: We keep seeing all of this Brady Was Unhappy talk. Did Brady ever talk to BB about it? Did they ever clear the air, like what was reported early in 2018? We see lots of passive-aggressive things done by Brady but did he ever approach Bill directly and say "Hey, I don't feel like X, Y, and Z are working for me. It's been a long time we're together, I would like some of these things".
Also, we never heard once of dissatisfaction from Belichick's side. He never leaked anything to the media, never had one iota of expressing "Brady has gotten more about himself and less about the team".
While a lot of us are jumping to Brady's side, I am just trying to see the other side of it for a few minutes.
How Brady became a Buc, and all the signs we missed along the way
Wins are a team stat not a QB stat. Always were and always will be.
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