Bills FA CB Stephon Gilmore signs 5-year deal w/New England

[TomPatriot]

Like some of us were saying, Pats usually nail the market on their guys. But SOME people on here really thought he was gonna get $17-18m per

Still think he gets Collins money from NE at the end of the day.

 

[fightingirish595]

I wouldn't mind paying two corners top dollar, but you don't need to pay two corners top dollar. It's completely unnecessary. Butler is gone. I'll be suprised if he gets extended. I'm even more suprised belichick wants to give big money to Gilmore and not butler

 

[jimnance]

I said if. read the post again. I do think it's possible.

Possible but unlikely. MB is worth a 1st round pick but then they still need to pay him big money on a long term deal.
Though it only takes one desperate bottom-feeder to do it. I hope not.

 

[Tony2046]

Wrong with Butler. Ok. Sometimes these guys type so fast you can't decipher what they mean.

I think he meant BB. Saints want more and BB is not offering enough for Butler.

Question: After 4 pm can BB still trade Butler? Has to be before, correct?

 

[AtomicDawg]

I guess this teaches us: if the guy is not named Tom Brady, do not get attached.

BRADY FOR JJ WATT UP NEXT!

(the following post was sarcasm/satire)

 

[AtomicDawg]

Oh no.

 

[Ring 6]

Just a note, people, and I'm not saying that Butler's staying/going/retiring/ascending to godhood:

• The Patriots offense is going to be returning, essentially, intact.
• The Patriots have many millions to spend.
• The Patriots have very little money invested in the defense.
• The Patriots can easily afford to pay Hightower, Butler, and Gilmore, and could still add another big ticket defender.

But you have to consider the longer term as well. There will need to be a lot of money spent on the offensive side of the ball during the term of these contracts.
Fitting them in this years cap is easy. Keeping a workable long term structure is the hard part.
If you have 14 mill a piece tied up in butler 9 in mccourty 4 in Chung and another 8 in the reserves that close to 1/3 of your cap just in the secondary.

 

[primetime]

I've always been a big fan. Thought Gilmore was the best corner on the market and I don't think there's really anything between him and Butler. It will be interesting to see what happens with Butler moving forward. Butler and Gilmore together would be a terrific secondary.

 

[FrodoBagginz]

Who is him? BB or Butler?

Bill Belichick: 7 Super Bowl Rings

Andrew Brandt: 0 Super Bowl Rings


Nothing wrong with Belichick. Might be something wrong with Andrew Brandt, though.

 

[Froob]

Anybody have Bills fans reactions? I can't find one of their boards.

 

[Bruins29]

I'm even more suprised belichick wants to give big money to Gilmore and not butler

Keep them both for a year while the Joneses develop.
Or
Have Gilmore and a 1st round pick if Butler leaves.

Not a lot of downside there

 

[Tony2046]

Bill Belichick: 7 Super Bowl Rings

Andrew Brandt: 0 Super Bowl Rings


Nothing wrong with Belichick. Might be something wrong with Andrew Brandt, though.

He was quoting the Saints front office.

 

[heavyde050]

Ryan Hannable had an interesting suspicion -- Butler and NE #1 (#32 overall) for Cooks and NO #2 (#42 overall).

Switch that to NO #1 and it sounds even better.

 

[scott99]

Just want to say I really hope we don't trade Butler. Cooks would be great but maybe we can find another way

I agree. I think Butler for Cooks is a win for the Saints. Butler is a better CB than Cooks is a WR. Butler is worth more.

 

[Deus Irae]

But you have to consider the longer term as well. There will need to be a lot of money spent on the offensive side of the ball during the term of these contracts.
Fitting them in this years cap is easy. Keeping a workable long term structure is the hard part.
If you have 14 mill a piece tied up in butler 9 in mccourty 4 in Chung and another 8 in the reserves that close to 1/3 of your cap just in the secondary.

Chung's number is small ($3.8m) for 2018
McCourty's $12m and $13.5m for '18 and '19

It's not an issue.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Anybody have Bills fans reactions? I can't find one of their boards.

They are ehh about it...they are more arguing about their cap space it seems

 

[Username]

Oh no.

Urgh

 

[Ring 6]

IMO if the Pats move Butler and need to trade their first for a 2nd to do it I will be ticked. Butler should not require you to do anything else. He is plenty good as is and his value should be enough for a straight up trade.

He is an RFA. That makes a difference. You ttade player and contact and butler comes with the dynamic that you either pay him big money or it's a 1 year deal.
Giving our first and getting their second is only a trade down of about a dozen spots.

 

[IllegalContact]

I've always been a big fan. Thought Gilmore was the best corner on the market and I don't think there's really anything between him and Butler. It will be interesting to see what happens with Butler moving forward. Butler and Gilmore together would be a terrific secondary.

Gilmore is a year younger

 

[PF_SU]

He was quoting the Saints front office.

Oh man... guys... As if Andrew Brandt is sitting in the Saints front office right now. He's based in Philadelphia, PA.