Are you "almost" glad now that deflategate happened?

[IllegalContact]

This is ridiculous. It permanently stained the reputation of one of the finest competitors the sports world has ever known for something he didn't do.

maybe to an idiot

 

[Jangles]

No

that first round pick would have been nice

 

[IllegalContact]

Your comments here are kind of like saying someone's wife got raped, but they got through it and ended up happy, so are they almost happy she was raped.

 

[PatsFanInLondon]

No - I want the picks back, the money back and Goodell to be exposed for the fraud that he is and have his sorry ass booted out of NFL Towers.

And for the NFL to publically apologise to the New England Patriots for instigating a witch hunt against its flagship franchise.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Now mind you, we all know how horrible all of this BS has been over the last two years. But man... Winning this 5th after all Brady, the Patriots, and this fanbase has been through just makes this so much sweeter.

It's like this win took care of everything. It's even feeling like Brady just won back the majority of the court of public opinion, something we thought would be impossible.

The whole deflategate saga was a nightmare at times that seemed to get nothing but worse and worse. Now mind you again I say almost, because none of it should have ever happened. But now it just feels like it was part of the journey.

OK. You clarified what you meant above. I learned that I am one of the "sheep" in the "herd." Thanks for that.

Now, I'll clarify what I meant.

Your first paragraph. No issue. It was the sweetest, as Robert Kraft said..

Second paragraph. You hedge yourself with the word "like," but no, the win did not take "care of everything."
Brady was still treated badly...some would say "defamed."
The League still got away with a lie because of Paragraph 46.
And, if you live outside of New England, TB has not "won back the majority of the court of public opinion." They still think he's a "cheater."
So, you're 0 for 3 there.

Third paragraph. You'd be OK if you said something like "a completely unnecessary detour in a great journey." But you say it now feels like "part of the journey." Sorry, it doesn't feel that way to me.

Signed,

 

[NE_Zealot]

Unreal. Pats just won their 5th Lombardi and cemented Brady and Bill as the GOATs and people are in here throwing a pity party over deflategate. This is what keeps me from donating money to this site. So many clickbait articles and deflategate threads.

Time for some thicker-skin folks. I welcome the hate as it proves NE's greatness but I don't need to internalize it and engage in the constant hand-wringing. We are seeing the greatest run in NFL history and will probably never see another. If some ignorant, hate-filled turds want to obsess over the Pats, let them. I WANT people to be upset by their success, especially Jets and Steeler fans. We are fans of the best team in Sports and threads like this exist, sad.

 

[Joey007]

I'm being ridiculous? You start a thread saying you are 'almost' happy that Brady was incorrectly charged with and convicted of being a cheater and a lair, and then say you didn't mean it wasn't a horrific disgrace because you said almost?
You said:


You said:



Again, if you don't think the need to add 'necessarily' implies that maybe he was, or that 'almost' turns your statement of being glad it happened into you consider it a vile disgusting thing, but oh well it made me happier, then you need some remedial English classes.

Let's make this simple: so you're thinking that I'm only seeing this through my own eyes and only how I feel about this, and not how Brady feels and what his experience has been through this?

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

A great reputation is like virginity – ‘it can be preserved but it can’t be restored.’

With that quote in mind, DeflateGate was a rape, with some saying: "She was asking for it"

Does anyone need to ask Kraft if he wished SpyGate and DeflateGate never happened? I don't need to ask Ian if those two topics share a sizeable chunk of this site's database - you know it does.

We know this is not remotely like the 1919 Black Sox scandal or MLB PED's, but it's been tagged to us as if it was. Perception is often reality.

Many fans of other teams know a team that was a minute away from being 19-0, won 2 of the last 3 SBs, etc, etc, must be historically good. For the rest, I hope they will be seen as hating fools, like the homers that frequently say a game was rigged.

 

[Joey007]

OK. You clarified what you meant above. I learned that I am one of the "sheep" in the "herd." Thanks for that.

Now, I'll clarify what I meant.

Your first paragraph. No issue. It was the sweetest, as Robert Kraft said..

Second paragraph. You hedge yourself with the word "like," but no, the win did not take "care of everything."
Brady was still treated badly...some would say "defamed."
The League still got away with a lie because of Paragraph 46.
And, if you live outside of New England, TB has not "won back the majority of the court of public opinion." They still think he's a "cheater."
So, you're 0 for 3 there.

Third paragraph. You'd be OK if you said something like "a completely unnecessary detour in a great journey." But you say it now feels like "part of the journey." Sorry, it doesn't feel that way to me.

Signed,

Where have you been hearing that everyone is still calling Brady a cheater Baa Baa?

 

[Nikolai]

The catharsis of winning the Super Bowl doesn't make up for all the ********. If I had to choose between this feeling or the feeling of having #5 without all the ********? I'm taking the latter, every time.

 

[Ring 6]

Let's make this simple: so you're thinking that I'm only seeing this through my own eyes and only how I feel about this, and not how Brady feels and what his experience has been through this?

I have no idea what you are thinking. I don't understand how you could be 'almost happy' that Deflategate happened, and you are a total idiot if you think Brady wouldn't give his left nut to not have had to go through it.

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

Where have you been hearing that everyone is still calling Brady a cheater Baa Baa?

It's not hard to find such drivel. This is just a minute of lurking at one forum full of haters.

• I hate you Tom Brady and The Patriots
• Bill Belicheat coach
• The Best Team Did not Win the Super Bowl!
• A Patriots Super Bowl victory would be to puke for
• Tom Brady’s Dad Says Roger Goodell Doesn’t Deserve To Be On Stage With Son If Patriots Win (Hatriots dominate that thread, including the troll moderator that banned me and others that won't take the defamation sitting down)

Safe to say, there are probably dozens of sports forums with crap threads like just linked above.

There is no disgrace in letting this thread go. It's the honorable thing.

 

[BradyFTW!]

Where have you been hearing that everyone is still calling Brady a cheater Baa Baa?

Everywhere outside New England, for starters. As a guy living in California, I can personally attest to the fact that this hasn't canceled out the Deflategate fallout. The morons who are determined to hate Brady and are looking for a reason to justify it have not backed off because he won another Super Bowl. They're never going to, and all we can do is just realize that they aren't worth caring about.

Deflategate was all about making useful idiots out of these people, and it succeeded in a way that no number of Super Bowl victories will undo. This win definitely helped solidify his place among people that are both a) not stupid, and b) capable of anything resembling objectivity. Unfortunately, that's maybe half of people on a good day.

 

[PatsFanSince74]

Where have you been hearing that everyone is still calling Brady a cheater Baa Baa?

I live outside New England. Nothing has changed, other than some begrudging respect and a wish that he'd now retire. They're not going to give it up, because if they did, they'd finally have to admit that they "only hate us 'cause they ain't us." And, they love to hate us too much.

I think the sooner that we give up the fantasy that fans of other teams are going to stop thinking of the Pats in general and Brady in particular as "cheaters" for at least the next ten years, the better off we are. I just plain don't let it bother me any more.

I got an email this morning from someone I know in Arizona. Begrudging congratulations. Told their kids that they should learn the lesson that "cheaters sometimes win." Came complete with a suggestion that we wouldn't have won if it weren't for the OT rules . I replied that I hoped Carson Palmer had another great season next year and that they can change the rules any way they want...we'll still win.

A doorman in my building here in New York, who doesn't know I'm a Patriots fan, told me yesterday morning that he was angry that those cheating guys had won again and how they probably broke the rules somehow. He is a gentleman who was not born in this country, so I responded that, yeah, a team that would take the feathers out of the football to make it lighter would probably do anything to win. He agreed with me and I had a good laugh as I walked away.

You just gotta laugh.

 

[Ring 6]

I live outside New England. Nothing has changed, other than some begrudging respect and a wish that he'd now retire. They're not going to give it up, because if they did, they'd finally have to admit that they "only hate us 'cause they ain't us." And, they love to hate us too much.

I think the sooner that we give up the fantasy that fans of other teams are going to stop thinking of the Pats in general and Brady in particular as "cheaters" for at least the next ten years, the better off we are. I just plain don't let it bother me any more.

I got an email this morning from someone I know in Arizona. Begrudging congratulations. Told their kids that they should learn the lesson that "cheaters sometimes win." Came complete with a suggestion that we wouldn't have won if it weren't for the OT rules . I replied that I hoped Carson Palmer had another great season next year and that they can change the rules any way they want...we'll still win.

A doorman in my building here in New York, who doesn't know I'm a Patriots fan, told me yesterday morning that he was angry that those cheating guys had won again and how they probably broke the rules somehow. He is a gentleman who was not born in this country, so I responded that, yeah, I earnestly told him that a team that would take the feathers out of the football to make it lighter would probably do anything to win. He agreed with me and I had a good laugh as I walked away.

You just gotta laugh.

It will always be a footnote to Brady's career that he was suspended for cheating.
Someone in the media said last week Brady shouldn't be a first ballot HOFer because he cheated.
I know Marshall Faulk is an idiot, but he is still saying Brady can't be the GOAT because he cheated.
Everyone who wants to be Anti-Patriot will forever call Brady a cheater. It unfortunately part of his legacy, but yeah, I bet he is almost happy it happened.

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

Now for the Steelers forum

• WHY!!!!? (loser has a screename of Bradydaphonedestroyer)
  
  
• I'm not a conspiracy theorist!
• How do you like them apples
• Sick and done with the NFL for a long time
• Up to the Steelers to protect their 6 SB's
• Super bowl 51!!! (the ending)

Anyone still think the Hatriots have stopped?

 

[K. Dog]

I don't think the Patriots win LI and maybe not even XLIX without the false accusations. Has anyone seen a team play with such passion and grit for three years like the Patriots? Most teams ease up a bit after winning the Super Bowl. The accusations gave the Patriots the one thing that normally eludes a successful team: motivation.

Is it coincidence that they Pats win 2 just after the framing? After a 10 year drought? I don't think so. I think it sparked the fire.

 

[jan08]

This thread

There's actually people thinking about being glad about being cheated out of a first round pick and Tom Brady being thought of as a cheat

Just off to the flat earth forum for some common sense and reasoned argument

 

[BelizePats]

The correct answer is NO. And if you could refrain from creating future threads like this one, the board instantly gets better.

 

[Joey007]

Everywhere outside New England, for starters. As a guy living in California, I can personally attest to the fact that this hasn't canceled out the Deflategate fallout. The morons who are determined to hate Brady and are looking for a reason to justify it have not backed off because he won another Super Bowl. They're never going to, and all we can do is just realize that they aren't worth caring about.

Deflategate was all about making useful idiots out of these people, and it succeeded in a way that no number of Super Bowl victories will undo. This win definitely helped solidify his place among people that are both a) not stupid, and b) capable of anything resembling objectivity. Unfortunately, that's maybe half of people on a good day.

All I know is when I check my Social media feeds, I was shocked at how many people that I know who normally would just flat out hate Tom Brady came out and said "Wow, I can't deny anymore that he's the greatest." I saw nothing along the lines of "yeah but he's still a cheater."

I suppose it could be different elsewhere, but naturally there's gonna be your idiots. If the idiots bother you, then you're just too sensitive at this point.