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The Patriots rated them much higher.
I'm done responding to you. I said Cassel was a good pick there. You willfully misread what I write so there is no point in this discussion. Have at it, I won't respond.
I didn't say they drafted them to take over from Brady. I said they were also considered value picks that could be flipped, which is what they tried to do with a few of them. A backup could be had for cheap in many ways. No need to spend a 3rd rounder on one.
But my point is that they really haven't done that. What they've done is take QBs about where they'd have been taken, with Cassel being the notable exception, and Brissett arguably being another. Now, this is easier to see with more recent picks, as the trend of overdrafting the entire QB class is a recent one, but it's been the case since the beginning of BB's tenure in Boston.
I'm going by what was reported in the press. The Patriots had higher grades than the rest of the league on some of the guys they took, and they used pretty high picks to take these guys when they didn't need them (I'm specifically looking at Mallet, O'Connell, Brissett). I think it can be argued that Jimmy G. was a need pick given Brady's age, even though if you go back to Patsfans back then, a lot of fans here called it a waste of resources.
That's fine. As I said, that post wasn't really aimed at you, and I appreciate your perspective on this. I think your more dispassionate position is, perhaps, marginally more likely to be accurate than the takes we're getting everywhere else, because even those that we would normally expect to be mostly neutral have been handling this year's QB class as if it's just a popularity context combined with a track meet.
I admire the enthusiasm! Wish I could say I’d react the same, as opposed to staring aimlessly at the television and feeling dead inside lol
Your recollection on these players is inaccurate. I specifically pointed out Davey, Mallett and Garoppolo to you, but the same holds for every QB they've taken besides Cassel and, depending on how you want to frame "rest of the league", Brissett.
How bad was this? It depends on how much you think a backup is worth on the patriots, and on other teams.
call one of them a WR if you really must. Personally, I think that we would trade up for Pitts, if all the QB's were gone.
A while back, I did a breakdown of what you need to do in order to have a chance at getting a franchise QB. It turns out that you need to draft one of the top 7 QBs in the year's draft. I don't remember there being any exceptions at all (it's possible that I'm forgetting one, and Warner was a UDFA), but the issue is top 7 QB taken, not the round taken. We can see that with guys like Brady (7), Wilson (6), Montana (4). Obviously taking a top 7 pick is not a guarantee of getting the elite QB, but taking a QB who's chosen later than the 7th at his position has been a sure fire way of avoiding elite QBs.
Nicely done.
