PATRIOTS TRAINING CAMP 2026 Patriots Training Camp - Day 12

[Grogan14]

If Pats had resigned Diggs and not made the Brown trade, they woukd still have the 28 first rounder and 27 5th rounder.
The difference between AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs is in now way equal to the first rounder they gave up.
AJ Brown trade was a panic desperation move that they will regret in April 2028.

 

[Wozzy]

If Pats had resigned Diggs and not made the Brown trade, they woukd still have the 28 first rounder and 27 5th rounder.
The difference between AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs is in now way equal to the first rounder they gave up.
AJ Brown trade was a panic desperation move that they will regret in April 2028.

Diggs will be 33 years old, AJ Brown will be 29… stop sniffing glue.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I don’t know why you keep saying this…? WRONG

$3.9M dead cap hit (w $14M cap save) for post-1Jun 27 TRADE is NOT „no way out“

I say it and will continue to say it because nobody is going to trade for his contract if he does so poorly the Pats want to get rid of him.

Your strategy works in Madden

 

[TommyD4207]

I say it and will continue to say it because nobody is going to trade for his contract if he does so poorly the Pats want to get rid of him.

Your strategy works in Madden.

This is all moot, because the Patriots won't be trading Romeo Doubs due to lack of production. Cool hill to die on though.

 

[Ring 6]

If Pats had resigned Diggs and not made the Brown trade, they woukd still have the 28 first rounder and 27 5th rounder.
The difference between AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs is in now way equal to the first rounder they gave up.
AJ Brown trade was a panic desperation move that they will regret in April 2028.

Maybe they should welch on the trade and trade for Diggs.
That way we can build a team that a guy who thought last years SB team was a 4 win would love!!!
We should hook you up with Vrabel and he can do Opposite George with you.

 

[Ring 6]

I do think Boutte is being a little overrated. I think he's good at what he does - a deep ball contested catch receiver - but he only had 33 receptions last year. He only had more than three catches in three games last year. Brown had more than double the number of total catches and had more than three catches in 11 games. As I've said, I just don't think Boutte is worth a sizeable contract so keep him this year and then let him walk.

Perhaps, but I think there is an argument he is underrated because of how his threat as a deep receiver opens up the rest of the field.
He runs a lot of routes that are high level of difficulty to get open but draw coverage to him.
His production is impacted by not being the guy who is #1 progression on combo routes barely at all.

Remember before the injury he was on track for a 50+ catch 900+ yard and double digit TD season.
whether you believe the injury was responsible for the dropoff or not that’s half a season showing potential to be a strong #2

 

[WhatJustHappened]

I'll cheer for AJ because he's on our team, but I never wanted him here.
He even said the playbook is difficult, I saw him say it a couple of days ago talking to reporters.
Hopefully he's not another Galloway/Holt/Johnson.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

If Pats had resigned Diggs and not made the Brown trade, they woukd still have the 28 first rounder and 27 5th rounder.
The difference between AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs is in now way equal to the first rounder they gave up.
AJ Brown trade was a panic desperation move that they will regret in April 2028.

Terrible take.
You have no idea where we are picking in 2028.
You have no idea if that pick would be a hit or miss, which will most likely be in the bottom third of the first rd.
Stay negative Sam.

 

[Triumph]

They were in a position of weakness. With Diggs gone the WR room looked abysmal with no guarantee that they would get Brown. Also Philly would have had them over a barrel.

Obviously the team (and league for that matter) has less of an opinion of Boutte than posters on the board. But with a trade seemingly an option, the Patriots gave themselves all options.

In context it seems like a smart move to me.

Brown cost a 1st round pick.

The Pats did not get a deal in that trade.

 

[Family]

Brown cost a 1st round pick.

The Pats did not get a deal in that trade.

I agree.

But it could have been even worse if we were left with Boutte, Hollins, Douglas, Williams, Chism as our receivers.

Maybe he's lost a step blah blah blah, but you don't get a WR of his pedigree for less than a first today.

They're almost never available.

 

[Triumph]

I agree.

But it could have been even worse if we were left with Boutte, Hollins, Douglas, Williams, Chism as our receivers.

Maybe he's lost a step blah blah blah, but you don't get a WR of his pedigree for less than a first today.

They're almost never available.

We have to trust that the NE front office and coaching staff know whats up.

To me, they saw Brown, Gilliam and Doubs as key components of the 2026 Pats offense and went out and paid up.

 

[Family]

We have to trust that the NE front office and coaching staff know whats up.

To me, they saw Brown, Gilliam and Doubs as key components of the 2026 Pats offense and went out and paid up.

I'm good with this.

Frankly what they had, even with Diggs, was average.

You got to strike when the fire is hot.

 

[Triumph]

I'm good with this.

Frankly what they had, even with Diggs, was average.

You got to strike when the fire is hot.

The Diggs offense was like the Brady offense. He did make huge plays when the Pats needed them except for the SB.

But, Diggs could not act right. His party post AFCC win could have been much worse than it turned out. Diggs is someone else's headache now.

 

[Huckleberry1]

I think it's likely they see Williams as Boutte's long term replacement. Same might be said for Chism and Douglas.

I think they could keep Boutte past final cutdown to force a team like the Chef's to give a 3rd for him. Possibly a 28' 3rd, given that they don't have a 1st in that draft.

 

[Huckleberry1]

If Pats had resigned Diggs and not made the Brown trade, they woukd still have the 28 first rounder and 27 5th rounder.
The difference between AJ Brown and Stefon Diggs is in now way equal to the first rounder they gave up.
AJ Brown trade was a panic desperation move that they will regret in April 2028.

Another idiotic take from Sam. I'm starting to think that Sam is actually John Bobbitt, which would explain why he's the most miserable person on the planet.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Another idiotic take from Sam. I'm starting to think that Sam is actually John Bobbitt, which would explain why he's the most miserable person on the planet.

It's perplexing.
I understand being objective, I for one think I am.
But Sam is incredibly negative beyond objective reasoning, it's very strange.

 

[Huckleberry1]

It's perplexing.
I understand being objective, I for one think I am.
But Sam is incredibly negative beyond objective reasoning, it's very strange.

Honestly, I think he's just doing it to be as big an ******* as he can be. The people I have met who are like that are just perpetually miserable human beings who try to make others angry because they think it causes them to share in their misery. Other than that I don't know why anyone would bother to follow a team when all it does is make them miserable? The Patriots went from the worst team with the worst roster in football to the Super Bowl, and now we are looking at difficult cuts instead of dogshit players as starters and he's still bleating out his miserable takes non stop.

 

[patfanken]

I said that bringing in Brown was a mistake. I stand by my statement. They aren't going to get jack s**t for Boutte because Wolf's a moron.

The only reason Boutte asked for a trade was because the Pats sent the signal that they didn't want him. All he's done is come in to camp and play better than all the other receivers.

I'd dump Brown's albatross contract to keep Boutte.

I think you are wrong DB for 2 reasons First,

Brown cost a 1st round pick.

The Pats did not get a deal in that trade.

Come on T, you are completely ignoring the TWO year discount we got from Philly for a player that WAS worth a #1 pick in 2026 by about everyone. I am a LOT more pissed off about the 5th rounder we are going to lose next April than the #1 we will give up 2 years from now..

Good deal for use, still a great deal for Philly. They have the kind of deep roster that makes a 2 year wait for pick look like found money. In the meantime Maye with have a genuine top 10 WR for the next 2 years while he is still in his prime and probably another couple of years when his is "just" a quality starting NFL WR.

Is this a bad deal because it ended up helping both teams in the long run. Teams don't fall apart just because they don't have a #1 pick. Remind me again which team is the odds-on favorite for this coming season, and how many first round pick they have had over the last decade.

We will lose ONE in 2028, but, it's just one pick in a draft we will likely have 6 or 7 other chances to find 3 or 4 prospects who will make contributions. By April of 2028, hopefully we will have a deeper, stabler, and more experienced roster that is more like Philly's, By 2028 I expect us to be a team that is CONSISTENTLY contending for titles EVERY season. It seems like we are doing it now, even though 12 wins are a lot more likely than 14. In fact, I'd be THRILLED with an 11-win season

 

[n1997y]

Doubs signing bonus was 15 million and his salary 3 million.

If the Pats cut or trade post 6/1, 18 million for 1 season is an awful return on investment.

Sunk cost fallacy.

If you bought a stock that was a bad investment would you keep it just because it was a bad investment?

 

[mgteich]

Sure, any time you dump a high-priced free agent after one year it’s a sign of regret. But good vs. bad investment isn’t the same question as whether you’re stuck with a longer term deal (cf. Watson, Deshaun).

$18M for one year is not terrible.

However, he is guaranteed $35M.