Curran: "In my estimation... [Gonzo would like to] be treated as if he's at the table in 2027." [previous title: "say goodbye to gonzo"]

[Zuma]

there is no "and then"

Yes there is …a draft pick. And if that’s the route we go down…that saves lot of money (even with franchise tagging) to use elsewhere. I don’t like the idea but it could happen.

 

[mgteich]

Yes there is …a draft pick. And if that’s the route we go down…that saves lot of money (even with franchise tagging) to use elsewhere. I don’t like the idea but it could happen.

IF no deal is agree upon, when would you trade him?

My suggestion is that he won't play many meaningful 2026 reps unless a deal is reached. Are you siggesting that we trade him before the trade deadline?

I thought that he would play under his contract for 2026 AND THEN we would trade him if there was no deal.

 

[Zuma]

IF no deal is agree upon, when would you trade him?

I didn’t mention a trade….at all. If you want to go that route (which is not my premise)…then trade when he stops playing / when the season is over.

 

[mgteich]

I didn’t mention a trade….at all. If you want to go that route (which is not my premise)…then trade when he stops playing / when the season is over.

we're not communicating well.

Do you think that he will play the 2026 season without a deal, and, if so, will he play at 100% or just go through the motions for a few weeks.

 

[Zuma]

Do you think that he will play the 2026 season without a deal, and, if so, will he play at 100% or just go through the motions for a few weeks.

He will play as well as he did in 2025. If he gets injured…he will take more time to ensure he is 100% healthy before coming back. He will play every game as long as he is healthy.

 

[upstater1]

Continue to pay him on his existing contract and then extend / franchise him until he refuses to play…if he refuses to take the reasonable highest paid CB contract ever.

This ends up with him getting $38m a year with the entirety of the contract counting against the cap.

And for what? Because you refused to pay him $33m?

And to top it off, he then leaves without any trade value into free agency.

Meanwhile you kept a disgruntled player on the roster for 2 or 3 years, and he's refused to play in 18 out of 34 games.

 

[upstater1]

He will play as well as he did in 2025. If he gets injured…he will take more time to ensure he is 100% healthy before coming back. He will play every game as long as he is healthy.

If he has a good season in this scenario, then his demands go way up, and that goes for every single team he's traded to. This effectively means that his trade value gets flushed down the toilet.

 

[Zuma]

This ends up with him getting $38m a year with the entirety of the contract counting against the cap.

When is he getting paid that amount and how many years is the question.

And for what? Because you refused to pay him $33m?

Me? Absolutely you pay him $33m.

 

[patfanken]

Gonna miss you Gonzo, wish Kraft wasn’t so damn cheap.

First, at WORST, Gonzo will be here for at LEAST 3 more seasons. 2 on his rookie contract and one Franchise year. Second, Don't be such an ass and perpetuate the Kraft is cheap mantra. I would have hoped you were smarter than that.

 

[upstater1]

When is he getting paid that amount and how many years is the question.


Me? Absolutely you pay him $33m.

Franchise tag (unless you're willing to let him go for free after the 1st yr he's on it) requires a 20% bump above the top 5 contracts.

So it's just one year. But then he's free to go with nothing coming back in return.

The deadline for this deal is really early November. If no deal by then, you gotta trade him.

 

[PatsFan2]

First, at WORST, Gonzo will be here for at LEAST 3 more seasons. 2 on his rookie contract and one Franchise year. Second, Don't be such an ass and perpetuate the Kraft is cheap mantra. I would have hoped you were smarter than that.

Gonzo could force his way out of Town if it comes to that ken. A.J. did a similar thing in Tennessee.

 

[Zuma]

The deadline for this deal is really early November. If no deal by then, you gotta trade him.

You prefer to trade him with 2 years on his contract then allow him to honor it or even wait a year and revisit it?

 

[upstater1]

You prefer to trade him with 2 years on his contract then allow him to honor it or even wait a year and revisit it.

For all the reasons I mentioned. If you're unwilling to pay him $33m per, you're definitely unwilling to pay him $38m per. So you've already determined you're not going to revisit the contract. And if you don't trade him, his trade value drops into the gutter, so you get little to nothing back for him.

 

[rochrist]

IF no deal is agree upon, when would you trade him?

My suggestion is that he won't play many meaningful 2026 reps unless a deal is reached. Are you siggesting that we trade him before the trade deadline?

I thought that he would play under his contract for 2026 AND THEN we would trade him if there was no deal.

No one is going to trade for him absent a deal in place.

 

[Zuma]

For all the reasons I mentioned. If you're unwilling to pay him $33m

I’m not sure your argument makes sense. Who in their right mind wouldn’t pay him $33m a year.

So you've already determined you're not going to revisit the contract.

Why would they not revisit in the off season? No offense man but I think that would be boarding on insane.

 

[upstater1]

I’m not sure your argument makes sense. Who in their right mind wouldn’t pay him $33m a year.

Why would they not revisit in the off season? No offense man but I think that would be boarding on insane.

I've said this already 3 times. His demands will go up exponentially if he plays well on the current contract. He will be incentivized to demand a ton of money at that point because he'll be only a year away from free agency. Now is when you get him for $33m.

Reports are that the Patriots are not offering Witherspoon's contract.

 

[upstater1]

No one is going to trade for him absent a deal in place.

And this is precisely why his value drops the closer he gets to free agency. Because he'll keep asking for even more.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Some of you guys are freaking out over a DB that has very limited control of the game and want to pay him so badly. You have no idea what he is asking for and what the hold up is. The Pats have rarely signed any relevant draft picks to extensions with 2+ years remaining. A lot can happen within the next two years.

You complain Kraft is cheap, but want to forget the dumbass contracts they recently handed out in 2024. Yay they signed their draft picks!

 

[Zuma]

“We get nothing if we let him walk in 3 years”….no…we got 6 years of great CB play and by then a new 1st round drafted CB will be ready to start.

 

[patfanken]

Gonzo could force his way out of Town if it comes to that ken. A.J. did a similar thing in Tennessee.

Sure, you can do that P, and play bad on purpose and hope that some other team will pay you a hundred million KNOWIING that ypu will sabotage the team if you are ever "unhappy" with something. THAT sounds like a good plan.